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 Posted: 04/ 28/ 08 9:07 pm Post subject: Kill the bill from hell: C-51 |
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Protect Your Constitutional Rights
An Important Notice Regarding Bill C-51
URGENT!! ACT IMMEDIATELY!! See below. This alert just in from Tony Stephan of Truehope Inc. in Alberta Canada. Tony has 8 employees hard at work in an emergency call center from which they're contacting every health food store in Canada urging emergency assistance to kill the bill from hell: C-51.
No one in Canada or the USA can afford not to help kill this bill. If you are American, please forward this to anyone in Canada who you know, and if you are Canadian, please take action yourself, then download this info and bring it to every health food store within a 25 k radius of your house and urge them to bagstuff the alert and to urge customers to call their MPs to strenuously oppose this. If you don't you will lose your access to dietary supplements. Keep in mind that the corrupted Canadian Health Food Assn isn't helping to kill this bill.
IAHF warns vitamin consumers globally that the European Food Safety Authority combined with the European Commission will be unleashing the regs from hell in January 2009, and that they'll make their way into Codex because the EU politically dominates Codex. These will be "Maximum Safe Upper Levels" that will be only slight multiples above RDA. IAHF warns you that if we fail to get congressional oversight in the USA on the FDA's Trilateral Cooperation Charter with Canada/ Mexico, we will not be able to stop this from coming to America, we will not be able to defend DSHEA. IAHF has just issued an urgent warning to the Life Extension Foundation, National Health Federation, American Association for Health Freedom, National Council for Health Freedom and allied groups world wide to the urgent need to assist film maker Kevin Miller so he can produce an updated version of "We Become Silent" which will focus on these issues.
Americans Take action via
http://www.nocodexgenocide.com/page/page/3113337.htm
Americans, if you don't help slay this dragon in Canada, its coming to you next.
More info about the IAHF:
http://www.iahf.com/index1.html
On April 8, 2008, the Minister of Health in Canada introduced Bill C-51 into the House of Commons. This Bill proposes significant changes to the current Food and Drugs Act that would remove critical checks and balances from Health Canada and endanger your Constitutional rights to "life, liberty, and security of person" (Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, Section 7).
Without immediate action from concerned citizens like you, this Bill will soon be law in Canada.
Consider How Bill C-51 Would Affect You
# Many natural health products that have been sold in Canada for decades would become unavailable, and remaining products would cost much more (Sections 13 & 18.7);
# The government could designate any natural health product a prescription drug, making it available by prescription only (Section 15.1(4));
# You could be fined thousands of dollars or go to jail for giving your child or friend a natural health product (Sections 31 & 3(3) – expanded definition of "sell");
# Researchers would lose academic freedom: they could not study the beneficial effects of natural health products without first getting the government's permission (Sections 3(6) & 18.2);
# International laws that restrict access to natural health products could be made law in Canada without the approval of elected officials or any debate in the House of Commons (Sections 3(6) & 30(7));
# To enforce this new law, inspectors could enter private property and (Section 23):
* take anything at their discretion;
* never pay the owner for it;
* charge the owner of the property a fee for shipping it to a secure storage unit;
* charge the owner of the property fees for keeping it in storage;
* keep it in storage as long as they want; and/or
* dispose of it at will.
Health Canada Needs Checks and Balances
Acting under current laws, Health Canada has already endangered Canadians' lives by seizing their natural health products. In 2003, Health Canada seized personal shipments of EMPowerplus, a vitamin-mineral supplement that hundreds of Canadians with bipolar disorder and other serious mood disorders depended on for mental wellness, and ordered Truehope Nutritional Support Ltd. to stop selling the supplement in Canada. Fearing for the safety of Canadians who were using EMPowerplus, Truehope disobeyed Health Canada's orders and was charged with selling an illegal drug.
Fortunately, in this case, Health Canada was unsuccessful in removing EMPowerplus from the market. In 2006, Truehope was found not guilty. The court ruled that Truehope was "overwhelmingly compelled to disobey…in order to protect the health, safety and well-being of the users of the supplement", and Health Canada dropped its appeal of this case in October 2006.
Learn more http://truehope.com/newsletter/editions/online038-October-22-2007.html
However, Bill C-51 would make it easier for Health Canada to seize natural health products in the future and remove them from the market, violating your Constitutional rights to "life, liberty, and security of person."
Canadians: What You Can Do To Protect Your Rights
Read Bill C-51. http://www2.parl.gc.ca/HousePublications/Publication.aspx?DocId=3398126
Read a Discussion Paper on Bill C-51 by the President of the Natural Health Product Protection Agency (NHPPA). http://www.healthcanadaexposed.com/discussion.htm
Contact your local MP to voice your objections to this Bill. http://www2.parl.gc.ca/Parlinfo/Compilations/HouseOfCommons/MemberByPostalCode.aspx?Menu=HOC
Forward this message to all of your concerned friends and family in the USA and Canada. (It's already too late for European Union countries.)
Attend a key court case to stop Health Canada from seizing natural health products without court permission.
When: Friday, May 9, 2008, at 1:00 pm.
Where: Federal Court of Canada, 635 8 Ave SW, 4th floor, Calgary, Alberta.
Americans- Take action via
http://www.nocodexgenocide.com/page/page/3113337.htm
Posted by Equus Os on behalf of John C. Hammell, the author of this posting.
To contact Mr. Hammell, refer to the following signature file:
John C. Hammell, President International Advocates for Health Freedom 556 Boundary Bay Road Point Roberts, WA 98281-8702 USA http://www.iahf.com jham@iahf.com 800-333-2553 N.America 360-945-0352 World |
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| rbacon Joined: 03 Nov 2002 Total posts: 11061 Location: At The Oars of the Slave Ship Canada Gender: Male
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Looks very serious. But don't expect support from Canadian sheep. I always wondered why the Jews never resisted the Nazi, when they came to load them onto railway cars to be separated from their families and loved ones. It was they had been through years of never resisting anything Gubmint told them to do. Instead of keeping their firearms when Hitler stripped them of their rights and shooting the Nazi swine on their own doorsteps when they came for their families, they submitted and were led away like sheep. Canadians should be aware that we are slipping into Fascism. And be ready.
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Darski
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It seems to me it was this time last year that they were doing this in the US.
Let's be honest though, Bureaucrats never give up... they will sneak this in somewhere that you can't see. I agree that we should fight this one; I just don't hold out much hope from our Communist gubmint for honour or open actions.
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| Posted: 04/ 29/ 08 9:38 am Post subject: |
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Cross link with thread already posted
http://www.freedominion.com.pa/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=98798
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| concan Joined: 30 Nov 2004 Total posts: 8653 Gender: Unknown
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| Darski wrote: | It seems to me it was this time last year that they were doing this in the US.
Let's be honest though, Bureaucrats never give up... they will sneak this in somewhere that you can't see. I agree that we should fight this one; I just don't hold out much hope from our Communist gubmint for honour or open actions. |
This has compliments of :
BAYER
PFIZER
BIG NAME ANYTHING PHARMA
written all over it.
Big pharma can't compete in the free market of health foods and supplements.
Get this. You can buy huge dosis and quantities of Aspirin or Ibuprofen at any grocery store but may soon need a prescription for vitamins and supplements. |
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Fabulous Fred
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| concan wrote: |
This has compliments of :
BAYER
PFIZER
BIG NAME ANYTHING PHARMA
written all over it.
Big pharma can't compete in the free market of health foods and supplements.
Get this. You can buy huge dosis and quantities of Aspirin or Ibuprofen at any grocery store but may soon need a prescription for vitamins and supplements. |
That is exactly what this is all about.
..and Stephen Harper is their instrument of oppression here in Canada, a role he undertakes willingly.
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Canada’s C-51 Law To Outlaw 60% of Natural Health Products
By OnTheWeb: Mike Adams Tuesday, April 29, 2008
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/2832
Don’t Let Big Pharma Do This To Canada
A new law being pushed in Canada by Big Pharma seeks to outlaw up to 60 percent of natural health products currently sold in Canada, even while criminalizing parents who give herbs or supplements to their children. The law, known as C-51, was introduced by the Canadian Minister of Health on April 8th, 2008, and it proposes sweeping changes to Canada’s Food and Drugs Act that could have devastating consequences on the health products industry.
Among the changes proposed by the bill are radical alterations to key terminology, including replacing the word “drug” with “therapeutic product” throughout the Act, thereby giving the Canadian government broad-reaching powers to regulate the sale of all herbs, vitamins, supplements and other items. With this single language change, anything that is “therapeutic” automatically falls under the Food and Drug Act. This would include bottled water, blueberries, dandelion greens and essentially all plant-derived substances.
The Act also changes the definition of the word “sell” to include anyone who gives such therapeutic products to someone else. So a mother giving an herb to her child, under the proposed new language, could be arrested for engaging in the sale of unregulated, unapproved “therapeutic substances.” Learn about more of these freedom-squashing changes to the law at the Stop51.com website: http://www.stopc51.com
New enforcement powers allow Canadian government to seize your home or business
At the same time that C-51 is outlawing herbs, supplements and vitamins, it would grant alarming new “enforcement” powers to the thugs enforcement agents who claim to be “protecting” the public from dangerous unapproved “therapeutic agents” like, say, dandelion greens. As explained on the http://www.Educate-Yourself.orgwebsite ((http://educate-yourself.org/cn/canadian...), the C-51 law would allow the Canadian government’s thugsenforcement agents to:
• Raid your home or business without a warrant
• Seize your bank accounts
• Levy fines up to $5 million and a jail terms up to 2 years for merely selling an herb
• Confiscate your property, then charge you storage fees for the expense involved in storing all the products they stole from you
C-51 would even criminalize the simple drying of herbs in your kitchen to be used in an herbal product, by the way. That would now be categorized as a “controlled activity,” and anyone caught engaging in such “controlled activities” would be arrested, fined and potentially jailed. Other “controlled activities” include labeling bottles, harvesting plants on a farm, collecting herbs from your back yard, or even testing herbal products on yourself! (Yes, virtually every activity involving herbs or supplements would be criminalized...)
There’s more, too. C-51 is the Canadian government’s “final solution” for the health products industry. It’s a desperate effort to destroy this industry that’s threatening the profits and viability of conventional medicine.
Natural medicine works so well—and is becoming so widely used—that both the Canadian and American governments have decided to “nuke” the industries by passing new laws that effectively criminalize anyone selling such products. They simply cannot tolerate allowing consumers to have continued access to natural products. To do so will ultimately spell the destruction of Big Pharma and the outdated, corrupt and criminally-operated pharmaceutical industry that these criminally-operated governments are trying to protect.
Join the rally to protest C-51
On May 9th, 2008, Canadian citizens will be gathering at the Calgary Federal Court to protest C-51 and help protect their access to natural health products. Call 1-888-878-3467 to learn more, or visit the action page of Health Canada Exposed at: www.stopc51.com
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Meistro
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Just ridiculous, the nanny state marches on.
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JurisNaturalist
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This is a oppressive move that has been fought by folks in home based businesses for years. Oddly enough while the Liberals were in power the R/CA/CPC was on side with the little guy. Isn't amazing that now that the CPC is in power they are cozying up to the big guns.
When these folks were in opposition they represented their constituents. We were their allies, they needed us. They listened to us and fought our battles. Then they won power and that power corrupted them. Now they ignore us and listen to the lobbyists who represent, in this case, the huge pharmaceutical companies.
These people who once needed our input into their lives voted unanimously along with all other elected officials to take, by force, our tax dollars. A move that enabled all political parties to ignore the will of their constituents. They no longer needed our volunteer time nor our voluntary financial support.
Here's the rub, did we the people make them pay by voting those self important members out as our constituency nominiees? Oh no- not us, we snuggled up and supported them and allowed the party to pass a motion keeping elected members in place.
http://www.conservative.ca/media/20080220
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f. In an Electoral District whose member of Parliament is a member in good standing of the Parliamentary caucus of the Party, the provisions of sections 3 and
4, except section 4e, do not apply and that person is deemed to be a Nomination
Contestant unless or until he or she indicates in writing to the Chair of the CNC that he or she wishes to withdraw. |
So, now what do we do? As I see it the only option left is to start actively lobbying the liberal opposition in order to have some form of representation for the little guy. You never know the liberals might listen and yes that would mean our buddies in power would be forced to put up with valid questions from the opposite side of the House but oh well... The CPC is out of control and needs to be reigned in. The only way to do that is to help the Liberals become an effective opposition just as the R/CA was. Even thought the Libs may be completely on side with the cons they might, just for the sake of making the conservatives look bad to the public, take the side of those opposed to BillC-51.
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I wish you health food types well in your battle against oppressive Ottawa, but frankly I never touch the stuff. As Robert Duvall said in "Kicking and Screaming" [my son's favourite movie]:
"I take a vitamin every day. It's called a steak." 
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| littleharbour wrote: | I wish you health food types well in your battle against oppressive Ottawa, but frankly I never touch the stuff. As Robert Duvall said in "Kicking and Screaming" [my son's favourite movie]:
"I take a vitamin every day. It's called a steak."
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I love my steak, that's why I take my vitamins. 
There are many, many people, including those involved in home based businesses who make a living selling vitamins
and health food products. Often those products are grown and manufactured in farms and facilities with far stricter standards than those employed by our very own pharmaceutical companies. For instance, Nutrilite Farms, the farming operation that provides ingredients for Nutrilite supplements, sprays neighbouring crops in a one-two mile radius with a non toxic pesticide in order to keep their crops as pure as possible.
When I was pregnant with my first two children there was a product available in Canada through Nutrilite that was a chocolate flavoured chewable calcium carbonate pill. It was the only thing that controlled my morning sickness. I shared that info with every other pregnant gal I knew and sold oodles of that product for my distributor. Shortly after the birth of my second child the Canadian Government saw fit to remove that product from the shelves. With my third pregnancy I could find nothing to help and suffering with dehydration and bloodclots from Hyperemesis gravidarum (excessive vomiting) had to be hospitalized for over a month.Of course the pharma companies made out just great as I ended up on a blood thinner which I have to take for life due to the arterial damage from the bloodclots during pregnancy.
A few years after my last child, and due to my vitamin intake, I was asked to be part of a study being done by the UofA on the interactions between vitamins and prescription drugs. Interestingly, I was told by the folks doing the study that the only products on the market that actually contained the ingredients claimed on the label were those being sold by companies who owned their own farms,like Nutrilite and several other home based businesses.
Rather than going to the lengths outlined in C-51 the government should just simply demand that all products contain exactly what is claimed on the label. If my understanding is correct currently a product only has to have 4% natural ingredients to be called a "natural" product. Of course the purpose of C-51 is not to provide better products for Canadians but to clear the selling field of all home based businesses so that the pharmaceutical companies are the only provider of vitamins and other health care products.
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| My wife is a big believer in natural products and refuses to buy Big Pharma vitamins off the shelf at the drug store. |
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Jason Kauppinen
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Sounds like a textbook definition of "unreasonable search and seizure".
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