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Posted: 03/ 20/ 08 6:04 pm Post subject: Warman vs FD -- socialist revolution

Warman vs Free Dominion -- socialist revolution

Here's some serious reading for you over the Easter season. The announced Warman lawsuit against Free Dominion and eight of its anonymous posters is analyzed by one of those posters as a case study in socialist revolution. The case will mark a significant escalation of this revolution, and here's why. -- Peter O'Donnell.

Over the past seven years, since the election of the Liberal majority government of November, 2000, which was able to pass sweeping legislation enabling same sex marriage and more insidiously, legally questionable protections against social criticism, a small group of socialist elitists have turned the existing Human Rights commissions and tribunals into their own personal vendetta against conservatives.

The strategy behind this is clear and unmistakeable. First, isolated and relatively defenceless individuals were targetted, on the grounds that their religious witness against the homosexual agenda in Canada constituted hate speech. Of course, it never approached the implied meaning of the term hate speech, much as we dislike that term in any case. The discourse was usually a direct quotation of Scripture followed by a reasoned plea to stop interfering in the education system or in organized Christian worship. These heartfelt pleas were both reasonable and sincere, and in most cases the direct work of the Holy Spirit speaking through witnesses. For centuries this had been recognized as the authentic sign of religious conscience being invoked and therefore legal sanctions against such speech tended to be nonexistent or mild in recent decades, because of the over-riding concern for freedom of religion.

With the insidious wording of Section 13 to guide them, the Warman clique was able to target various weakly protected individuals and bring them to kangaroo court justice, across the country. But this only whetted their appetite. When it became clear that the Islamic lobby, equally ungrounded in the long-standing traditions of free speech and intellectual inquiry in a western democracy, was moving further ahead in its own social attacks on opponents far more prominent than the average victims of these tribunals, the Warman clique moved to find equally visible targets of their own. They carefully selected groups who might fit the bill of being far right, white supremacist, or even anti-Semitic, as with the Lemire group now being prosecuted, and juiced up the action by apparently planting a number of articles that were generally far more legally actionable than anything the original defendants could have produced by themselves.

Of course the prosecution of this group is a totally unnecessary waste of time and money. At worst, some of the group may be guilty of poor judgment in what they might or might not say in public about non-whites or Jews. Some of them are known to hold controversial opinions about these subjects. Whether any of these opinions really amount to hate speech or any real threat to anyone's wellbeing or safety, is probably a matter for quiet speculation rather than legal proceedings. It would be wise to let sleeping dogs lie and ignore the ravings of the more frothy members of this contingent, because as we all know, these are often sad individuals who are crippled by some past injustice and who look for external forces to blame for their problems. If giving such people a place to gather and vent their feelings is somehow dangerous to the public order, then the NDP should also be closed down, because that is basically what it exists to do for the political left.

The current techniques being used to gather and present evidence against the Lemire contingent amount to abuse of the power and privilege of the federal and provincial governments which have enabled the court to proceed. There is no hiding behind spurious claims of "arms-length" disentanglement as was recently claimed by a PMO staffer in a letter to this author. These human rights tribunals are far less independent of government than the regular courts, because in a de facto sense, they exist only to enact the prevailing opinions of the cultural elite which normally overlaps the government of the day.

The fact that we have a new crowd in government, from outside the pale of the cultural elite (but apparently wanting to become part of it), does not excuse Stephen Harper and the rest of the Cabinet from direct culpability in the heavy-handed and (by my observation) unconstitutional actions of the Ontario HRC in particular, and the whole system in general.

However, the Warman lawsuit train will soon pull out of the Lemire station and chug on to Free Dominion, where the whole process is to be shifted into regular court. This represents a serious escalation of what I analyze to be socialist revolution. Undeclared and highly illegal socialist revolution.

A group of individuals, clearly in close collaboration and misusing the legal system for political ends, seeks to widen the scope of their attack on conservatism in Canada, by engaging mainstream conservatives on their largest political website, and also simultaneously, their most celebrated columnist, Mark Steyn, in connection with the one publication in the country apparently willing to take any kind of stand against radical Islam.

The interplay of interests between the radical socialists and the Islamists is no accident, because both would profit from a weakening of conservatism in Canada. Both would be able to advance their highly controversial agendas, which they find it difficult to do openly through electoral politics, through this back door of weakening conservatism.

The strategy is clearly to weaken conservatism in stages, first by attacking its extremist flanks, then by going after outspoken but more moderate or representative voices, and thereby intimidating the elected conservative politicians or existing conservative sympathizers in the media (few and far between) to speak directly against their plans.

This may strike some as smart politics, but it strikes me as socialist revolution, since it involves the direct use of government resources. In a de facto analysis, these socialists have burrowed into the legal system and taken over key areas to use as their battering ram against the legislative branch of government through intimidation or libel chill tactics. Every cautious or weak-minded MP in the conservative caucus is naturally going to think twice about public association with the targets of these lawsuits, because of the spectrum that has been created from extremist to moderate voices. For the same reason, some moderates who risk becoming targets back off their internet posting or other public statements, go deeper under cover, and feel very wary about public association with groups already targetted.

This creates a domino effect that ends up deflecting the will to resist the socialist agenda even in the power centre of the CPC, so that the agenda guarantees its own success in that they will get similar results whether the CPC wins, loses or draws with the Liberals in future elections. The only differences will be cosmetic or matters of pace, and in any case, three quarters of the political action takes place at the provincial level, and here the conservative forces are already largely compromised by fear of being tagged extremist by their media. The linkages between the media and the Warman clique appear, so far, to be more sins of omission than commission. The almost total lack of reporting of the socialist revolution in action may be the result of ignorance, complicity, or failure to understand the dynamics.

This probably explains why Richard Warman made such a fuss about being identified in FD (by myself among others) as following Stalinist techniques in the activities of his clique. Sure, there may be no torture chambers or executions planned, but the objective is generally similar, to engage in a reign of legal terror against political opponents and use the full power of the state to deprive them of their legal rights to speak freely and own property (Warman is after that too).

It requires the full understanding of the Canadian citizenry that undeclared socialist revolution has been rapidly changing our country for many years now, in a tradition first created by Pierre Trudeau, a well known sympathizer of both Fidel Castro and Mao. Trudeau laid the foundation for the accelerated revolution that took place in the years between 2000 and 2005 when the Liberals, aided by the more enthusiastic NDP, passed the various enabling laws that have left us in this state of undeclared revolution.

Revolution is either a political movement towards a desired end (when it succeeds) or treason against the state and its people (when it fails).

This one deserves to fail. The objectives are clear for anyone who can see, and some who can't see as well. The objectives include the complete marginalization of conservative politics, of Christian or conservative Jewish thought and influence, of tradition and the centrality of an impartial rule of law as the foundation for a civil society.

The laws being promoted and finessed by the Warman clique are nothing more than personal opinions of socialists, written into statute books and enacted as though they had any real moral or ethical standing. They do not, as is clearly evident when one considers the case of Pastor Stephen Boissoin of Alberta, who has recently been saddled with an entirely unwarranted charge of responsibility in other peoples' wrongdoing in the assaults on teenagers in Red Deer. This is the new replacement for due process and the foundations of law as we understood them before 2000 -- if the politically correct elite considers you guilty, then you are guilty, and this is what will happen to all of us, one by one, as we are called to account for our thought crimes, our failures to accept and then regurgitate the political correctness religion of the atheists and secular humanists. When they can find some enabling self-proclaimed "church" to give them a religious lustre, of course they grab onto that because it elevates their neo-Marxist creed to something that seems noble.

Waiting in the wings, and watching carefully, taking down notes for immediate use, would be the environmental lobby, with their apparently insane notions that they can change the world's weather by legislation. Their high priest has already announced his desire to imprison anyone who dares to question his dogma and seek public office. So if the Warman clique are not stopped, then we will no doubt have a hundred zealous imitators, whipping up gullible younger people whose education has already managed to avoid any mention of the foundations of common law and the primacy of the legislative branch in government.

But when the legislative branch is as timid and compromised as the current parliament of Canada, coming off a six year period of more robust enablement of the revolution, it is hardly surprising that we live in an advanced state of social revolution today. Half the country, perhaps more, has varying degrees of skepticism and revulsion for the basic principles of this revolution. But this majority has no real voice in parliament. Their elected MPs are silent and looking the other way, concentrating on such important tasks as bringing down the price of your chocolate bar from $1.05 to perhaps $1.04 ... or even lower !! ... until the new carbon taxes kick in, of course.

Well now we have a new tax to pay, the free speech tax, and the Warman clique has decided that it will collect that and shield it from any further dilutions by keeping it circulating among "human rights lawyers" and their friends.

If we don't stop the Warman express to neo-Marxist paradise at this station, who knows where it will go next? Perhaps those small-town newspapers, churches minding their own business, MPs who dare to say a peep outside of the protective walls of parliament -- perhaps they will be next to pay the tax, because make no mistake, you get to pay regardless. Legal defence does not come cheap.

Neither do our freedoms.

Posted: 03/ 20/ 08 6:10 pm Post subject:

...which is one reason I use my identity to post after, it is a statement to these fascist bas___rds to come get me and try me on for size.
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Posted: 03/ 20/ 08 7:08 pm Post subject:

Excellent. now how do we get this published?

Would Mac Leans be interested in getting this out there?

Posted: 03/ 20/ 08 8:42 pm Post subject:

Peter: whay "I think" you mean...is that the socialist ( actually Stalinist wave in the socialist bureaucratic establishment...needs a well timed and effective "counter revolution"...which I hope we are providing the impetus for.
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Posted: 03/ 20/ 08 11:36 pm Post subject:

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Posted: 03/ 21/ 08 12:32 am Post subject:

I have bookmarked this for later digestion.
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Posted: 03/ 21/ 08 2:38 pm Post subject:

Just finished.

Many good points.

This IS a WAR of ideologies and certainly the forces libed up on each side have a decidedly divergent vision of what Canadian society should be modeled after.

I don't know if these forces lined up to carry out their semi-covert social engineering in courts and tribunals are overtly "Satlinist" but it is clear they do not intend to be civil nor fair, nor impartial....and much of the focus of their actions seems savage...they like to viciously attack lone targets for the intimidation factor..the detached animal cunning of an amoral predator...This is something common with despotic political regimes.

I find the purposeful disinterest of the TV media to be an almost suicidal act because given the obvious amoral savagery displayed in ruining defenseless individuals with the vast resources of the state, they fail to see that this type of political savagery has no loyalty (loyalty being a mater of morality) and will just as easily turn on them....it is pointless assuming you will escape this by becoming a sycophant to it or ignoring it.

The governmental disinterest in attacks on the free press and free expression is far more unnerving to me than the vacant inhumane savagery of the social deconstructionists in this ideological war...it indicates an active role by doing nothing to rein in systemic abuses. Harper can't sit on his thumbs on this one,
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Posted: 03/ 21/ 08 4:13 pm Post subject:

Revolution is sometimes successful because it expresses the will of a majority, as with the "velvet revolution" of 1989 in former Czechoslovakia and the end of communism in eastern Europe in general. This was revolutionary change brought about by organized political activity expressing the will of a majority.

Revolution can also be successful when a minority finds ways of dividing its opposition and forcing its way into power. This is what has happened since 2000 in Canada.

The minority in favour of greatly expanded rights and influence for gays, for example, operates by dividing the opposition against it so that no critical mass can ever be created to act against the agenda.

Social conservatives can be divided from libertarians and both of these from centrists, even though quite conceivably all three groups would vote against some of the legislation and concepts that underlie the social revolution in place.

This is one of the purposes of the lawsuit campaign, to illustrate in some cases how the opposition to the gay agenda is extremist (thus splitting off centrist support) and in other cases how it is religious (thus alienating non-religious dissenters).

In the case of the climate change fiasco, actual mind manipulation techniques are being applied through the well-known technique of repetitive indoctrination. This works as follows -- you take a proposition that you are trying to advance, then you repeat it through as many communication channels as possible, as often as possible, with no further elaboration about the logic of your proposition. This has been successful with climate change as I can see here in Vancouver, where I would estimate 70% of the population now falsely believes two propositions, one, that human activity caused the damaging windstorms of the winter of 2006-07, and two, that B.C. government policies can realistically alter this situation.

People now talk in terms of the "guilt" of their carbon "footprint" as though this were some real personal shortcoming, and not the illustration of a crazy mythology designed to enrich Maurice Strong and other stakeholders at the expense of our economic vitality.

Only a brainwashed and unmotivated population would stand for the insane notion that by adding 10% to the cost of gasoline, we can change the weather on this planet. Similarly, only a population entirely cut off from centuries of moral and religious consensus would unthinkingly surrender control of its legal process to a group of gay radicals bent on punishing their opponents.

Canada has essentially gone crazy and needs to be put in a home somewhere, but the problem is, the whole world community is wandering around in much the same state, muttering to themselves about climate change, human rights and (don't even get me started on this last one) the need to be tolerant to Islam so they won't be offended and blow up our transit systems.

Crazy is as crazy does. Kafka and Orwell would have laughed themselves to death just over the notion of a hate speech tribunal sending out items of hate speech to prove that certain websites were spreading hate speech. I could liken this to having the septic trucks roaming rural parts of Ontario looking for properties to cover with sewage, or firemen breaking into your home and setting it on fire.

Crazy is as crazy does.

Posted: 03/ 21/ 08 5:53 pm Post subject:

Thank you for this wonderful article Peter.
You have the knack of explaining things that
I feel are wrong with our society. I feel that
the media has been a big player in this revolution.
The politicians who are intelligent enough to
understand what is going on are not courageous
enough to stand up to the scorn of the media.

Will it ever change? Will someone, somewhere
call out the media for the bigots that they are?

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Posted: 03/ 22/ 08 3:50 am Post subject:

Another perspective on all this ...

The recent trend of lawsuits that concern free speech in Canada, can be understood also as a spreading of the academic culture into the mainstream.

For many years, probably forty at least, the political left has carefully managed free speech on campus. Hiding behind the supposed authority of separation of church and state, they have carefully made sure that all conservative voices are silenced on university campuses, so that students are only exposed to the orthodox views of neo-Marxists.

Now this trend is being shoved out into the mainstream. The mass media began to conform to this in stages after about 1980, but the trend accelerated when Clinton was president and the conservative movement fractured in Canada.

In more recent years, the silencing of conservative voices has become a new task of the judicial branch, especially the extra-legal HRC tribunals which are really just university classrooms held in courtrooms instead of lecture halls.

Each day's "work" at these "courts" is really like a seminar, where the students who have already failed their year (conservatives) are being re-educated and shown what they should have believed to gain a passing grade like the current government has done (okay it's a C- but it's a passing grade).

Naturally, tuition fees need to go up, because special professors, post-graduate degree holders in terms of political correctness, are spending their time lecturing for our benefit.

The answer is to state that we already passed our own courses and we aren't interested in the curriculum.

All is lost when we accept their paradigms of entitlement and legitimacy. Our position needs to be simply this -- we are citizens of a different country. These courts do not represent our values or our needs for social order. As such, they represent the illegal interference of some foreign power in our lives, as though Communist China had sent prosecutors here to try us for anti-communist crimes against the state. For that is really what this is all about, anti-communist thought crimes.

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Posted: 03/ 22/ 08 11:42 am Post subject:

where did the edit button go ?
why did edit jump to repasting as a quote ?
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Posted: 03/ 23/ 08 12:45 pm Post subject:

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