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CHRC taking submissions on issue of closed hearing! WRITE!

The CHRC has said that they will take submissions from the public on the issue of the closed Warman v Lemire tribunal hearing, but the submissions must be made by March 17th.

Please write a polite and professional letter to Ms Jessie Cyr outlining why you believe the hearing should be public.

If you can't write a polite letter, PLEASE DON'T WRITE. You will only hurt our case.

Here is my submission:

Posted: 03/ 12/ 08 12:28 pm Post subject:

Perhaps we should also write the Conservatives and make it known that they will not receive donations if they will be supporting the HRC holding tribunals closed to the public. Is this right out of the KGB manual? Kind of funny that Ayn Rand foresaw this in Atlas Shrugged.

Posted: 03/ 12/ 08 12:41 pm Post subject:

Posted: 03/ 12/ 08 2:42 pm Post subject:

Polite hand-written letter have far more impact than signed computer print outs.
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Posted: 03/ 12/ 08 2:47 pm Post subject:

Posted: 03/ 12/ 08 3:27 pm Post subject:

I sent a letter via email just now.

Thanks for letting us know about this, Connie.
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Posted: 03/ 12/ 08 3:41 pm Post subject:

The key provisions that were used in the original order to close the hearing are Sections 52(1)(c) and (d) of the Human Rights Act:

"52. (1) An inquiry shall be conducted in public, but the member or panel conducting the inquiry may, on application, take any measures and make any order that the member or panel considers necessary to ensure the confidentiality of the inquiry if the member or panel is satisfied, during the inquiry or as a result of the inquiry being conducted in public, that

(c) there is a real and substantial risk that the disclosure of personal or other matters will cause undue hardship to the persons involved such that the need to prevent disclosure outweighs the societal interest that the inquiry be conducted in public; or

(d) there is a serious possibility that the life, liberty or security of a person will be endangered."

It might make sense mention those sections in any submission to the Tribunal.

Posted: 03/ 12/ 08 3:52 pm Post subject:

Sent
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Posted: 03/ 12/ 08 3:54 pm Post subject:

sent
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Posted: 03/ 12/ 08 5:16 pm Post subject:

Here is a fax number: 613-995-3484
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Posted: 03/ 12/ 08 9:00 pm Post subject:

Posted: 03/ 12/ 08 10:58 pm Post subject:

You know when my wife gets involved, it’s just GOT TO BE important.

If she can write a letter with four little ones to manage all day, you can sure as hell find the time too!

Posted: 03/ 12/ 08 11:33 pm Post subject:

Social Conservatives United

March 13, 2008

Canadian Human Rights Tribunal
160 Elgin Street, 11th Floor
Ottawa, ON K1A 1J4
Tel: (613) 995-1707
Fax: (613) 995-3484
Email: gcyr@chrt-tcdp.gc.ca

Attention: Ghislaine Cyr

RE: Registry Officer Re: Warman v Lemire (T1073/5405)

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Dear Ms. Cyr,

I am writing in regards to the Warman vs. Lemire tribunal hearing that is scheduled for March 25, 2008.

The current conduct of the various human rights commissions in Canada, especially the Canadian Human Rights Commission, has come into serious question.

The credibility of any government organ is dependant on the ability to sustain transparency and fairness. To lose these qualities is to lose the support of the people and the moral authority to operate.

Over the past several weeks, there have been many serious and credible allegations made against the questionable tactics of the Canadian Human Rights Commissions. Since the controversial complaints and the questionable tactics of the CHRC impact all Canadians and their inalienable rights of free speech which are guaranteed under the Charter of Rights of Freedoms, it would be, in my humble opinion, a grave mistake to hold the above hearing behind closed doors. To do so in the current heated environment would only further damage the reputation of the Commission in a very significant way.

A government tribunal which has the power to levy significant fines and cause extreme hardship to their respondents must demonstrate an impeccable and just procedural mechanism for its operations. These necessary qualities are contingent on complete transparency and openness to the public.

If the Commission’s tactics are above reproach, then it has nothing to fear from the public.

John Pacheco, Director
Social Conservatives United

http://www.socon.ca/or_bust/?p=753
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Posted: 03/ 13/ 08 12:07 am Post subject:

See my new thread entitled

It's official -- Harper blows us off.

There is no real hope of fighting these star chambers within the rules because they will do whatever they want to punish conservatives for holding conservative opinions, and our so-called Conservative government will stand idly by and watch, not even daring to say a negative word about the situation.

It would make better sense politically to resist by non-participation and a consistent stand which states that we hold the CHRC and for that matter, any courts seeking to try political opinions simply because they offend socialists, as evidence of an illegal and undeclared socialist revolution.

It is the duty of citizens to resist illegal revolutionary activity, and it is treason to engage in such activity. The consequences of that analysis of the situation would suggest that

(1) our government is derelict in its duty to uphold the spirit of the constitution, by allowing the judiciary extraordinary powers without challenge,

and (2) the citizens would be justified in any form of resistance to the people engaging in social revolution.

Just because the socialist revolution is undeclared does not change anything. We need to have the wisdom to understand that this is the situation, and react accordingly. Trying to work within their rules will get us nowhere, because they are not even disguising the fact that they are biased and in favour of punishment for those who violate the revolutionary principles they espouse.

Watch for more action on this alternative point of view in the coming days. There is a different way to proceed, and there seems little point in trying to talk sense into socialists -- this has never worked before.

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