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PostPosted: 01/ 16/ 08 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To me this fits......


http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/C-46/section-423.html

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Intimidation

423. (1) Every one is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term of not more than five years or is guilty of an offence punishable on summary conviction who, wrongfully and without lawful authority, for the purpose of compelling another person to abstain from doing anything that he or she has a lawful right to do, or to do anything that he or she has a lawful right to abstain from doing,

    (a) uses violence or threats of violence to that person or his or her spouse or common-law partner or children, or injures his or her property;

    (b) intimidates or attempts to intimidate that person or a relative of that person by threats that, in Canada or elsewhere, violence or other injury will be done to or punishment inflicted on him or her or a relative of his or hers, or that the property of any of them will be damaged;

    (c) persistently follows that person;

    (d) hides any tools, clothes or other property owned or used by that person, or deprives him or her of them or hinders him or her in the use of them;

    (e) with one or more other persons, follows that person, in a disorderly manner, on a highway;

    (f) besets or watches the place where that person resides, works, carries on business or happens to be; or

    (g) blocks or obstructs a highway.

    Exception

    (2) A person who attends at or near or approaches a dwelling-house or place, for the purpose only of obtaining or communicating information, does not watch or beset within the meaning of this section.
    R.S., 1985, c. C-46, s. 423; 2000, c. 12, s. 95; 2001, c. 32, s. 10.


Also read http://www.doj.ca/en/ps/fm/pub/harassment/part1.html
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PostPosted: 01/ 16/ 08 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mark you should send a link of this thread to Ezra Levant.
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PostPosted: 01/ 16/ 08 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Connie Fournier wrote:
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I keep asking myself why the first respondent is so adamant about not knowing what any other agent has been doing.... no matter what is asked.

it looks to me like another "Big Lie" getting set up.


You bet your sweet bootie!!

Their lawyer actually had the audacity to tell the judge that they want to make sure they can continue to use Section 37 when they feel it is necessary to 'protect their secret investigative techniques'.

I actually curled my fingers around the seat of my chair at that point to make sure that I didn't jump up and start ranting. Very Happy


Correct me if I am wrong but this gentleman (not really) trolls the net and when he finds something offensive he files a third party complaint against the person he deems offensive?

Thus a complaint is filed and he as a employed member of the Human Rights Commission acts as a lawyer for the complaintant that really doesn't exist or someone he finds to name at a later date after said offensive post has been reported??

Finally how in the hell is it legal and not unethical and a conflict of interest for HRM employees to troll and file complaints against a person for Human Rights Violations. This is absurb and should be illegal, I don't care what cause he or she feels worth fighting for it's unethical and immoral and should be illegal. If it comes to light that HRM employees are setting up posters on the internet vis vie trolling they should be summaryly fired and charged with stalking because that's what they are doing stalking until they find a victim to persecute for MONEY.

An unethical person employed by HRC could make a fortune visa vie filing unjust suits with the HRM and we'd never know it. Dear god are they really that bored and useless they have to troll to find victims to persecute.

This is sickening.
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PostPosted: 01/ 16/ 08 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As a nation we have forgotten why we are free. HRCs are only the beginning of what we will face if we don't get over our national amnesia.
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PostPosted: 01/ 16/ 08 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Red wrote:
Thus a complaint is filed and he as a employed member of the Human Rights Commission acts as a lawyer for the complaintant that really doesn't exist or someone he finds to name at a later date after said offensive post has been reported??


Sounds exactly like what the Stasi did in East German

    The Stasi monitored political behavior among GDR citizens, and is known to have used torture and intimidation to mute dissent. During the Peaceful Revolution of 1989, Stasi offices were overrun by enraged citizens, but not before the Stasi destroyed a large amount of secrets. When the remaining files were published for review, many people learned that their friends, colleagues, spouses, and relatives had regularly filed reports with the Stasi. These wounds on civil society have not yet entirely healed.

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PostPosted: 01/ 16/ 08 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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As a nation we have forgotten why we are free. HRCs are only the beginning of what we will face if we don't get over our national amnesia.


Some have yes. Not all sir.
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PostPosted: 01/ 16/ 08 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Darski wrote:
I keep asking myself why the first respondent is so adamant about not knowing what any other agent has been doing.... no matter what is asked.

it looks to me like another "Big Lie" getting set up.


I was thinking the same thing. These are not 'good' people just misguided as some think.
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PostPosted: 01/ 17/ 08 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

styky wrote:
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Thus a complaint is filed and he as a employed member of the Human Rights Commission acts as a lawyer for the complaintant that really doesn't exist or someone he finds to name at a later date after said offensive post has been reported??


Sounds exactly like what the Stasi did in East German

    The Stasi monitored political behavior among GDR citizens, and is known to have used torture and intimidation to mute dissent. During the Peaceful Revolution of 1989, Stasi offices were overrun by enraged citizens, but not before the Stasi destroyed a large amount of secrets. When the remaining files were published for review, many people learned that their friends, colleagues, spouses, and relatives had regularly filed reports with the Stasi. These wounds on civil society have not yet entirely healed.


Sickening, bloody sickening. Hopefully we can spread the word on what's really going on with HRC employees current and former.

I do not consider this gentleman actions as being "Good" trolling the net looking to be offended and then making money off an innocent's OPINION is distasteful and it should be illegal to prophet from this type of behavior. His actions are no less vile to me than the OPINIONS of those he persecutes. Both are repulsive and extreme in nature.
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PostPosted: 01/ 17/ 08 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sure I'm a day late and a dollar short but hot off the press for one second HRC admits to spying on individuals on the internet also known as trolling for cases.

Link:http://www.freedomsite.org/legal/jan16-08_Victory-at-federal-court.html

Snippet: CHRC senior investigator Dean Steacy admitted: “I created the Jadewarr email address on yahoo.ca and the Jadewarr account on Stormfront,” a prominent White Nationalist website.
Steacy claimed to be “using the Jadewarr account in investigating Sec. 13 complaints.” Interestingly, he engaged M r. Lemire, whom he was not investigating, in private message exchanges..
Apparently, he was operating without instructions: “As an investigator I decided how to investigate.

Fire the him now, he hasn't an ounce or modicum of integrity. NONE, entrapment is what he participated in.
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PostPosted: 01/ 18/ 08 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have checked the media every day since this ruling and there is still not one single mention of it.
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PostPosted: 01/ 18/ 08 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have checked the media every day since this ruling and there is still not one single mention of it.

Which is exactly why the old media being eclipsed by the new media. Let them remain in their primitive caves, they won't be missed.
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PostPosted: 01/ 18/ 08 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe that possibly the majority of people are now aware that if they want to know what is happening they must find their news online, not on the television.
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PostPosted: 01/ 18/ 08 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Television news is good for putting pictures of events in front of people fast, but the pictures they provide should always be viewed with the audio muted.
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PostPosted: 01/ 18/ 08 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We're going to be hearing a lot more about Jadewarr.

I promise. Very Happy
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PostPosted: 01/ 18/ 08 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fabulous Fred wrote:
I believe that possibly the majority of people are now aware that if they want to know what is happening they must find their news online, not on the television.


I did a large number of posts on the GOP with regards to Fred Thompson. That was the scenario I was seeing - MSM silent, but the on-line media fulfilling the demand for news and commentary.

The Ezra Levant YouTubes are another case in point. 300,000 hits in less than a week.

You can see where the advertising dollars will head soon.


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