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| SUZANNE Location: Ottawa Gender: Unknown
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Faramir -- your conversations wouldn't be covered by the Canadian HRT because its mandate is federally-regulated means of communication-- like the internet.
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| SUZANNE Location: Ottawa Gender: Unknown
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When I found out that bloggers were deliberately posting the offending comments on their blogs, I was incredibly moved. I don't think I've ever been so proud to be a Canadian.
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| Posted: 07/ 23/ 07 11:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Connie wrote: | | When I found out that bloggers were deliberately posting the offending comments on their blogs, I was incredibly moved. I don't think I've ever been so proud to be a Canadian. |
So you should be - bloggers are not protected by CHRA Section 13 (3), so they are sticking their necks out and making life very hard for the CHRC.
The move is also focusing attention on the alleged 'hate speech' which is at the core of the complaint. I am sure he CHRC does not want to go down that road.
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| Mark Fournier Member
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| WestViking wrote: | | The move is also focusing attention on the alleged 'hate speech' which is at the core of the complaint. I am sure he CHRC does not want to go down that road. |
But we're going to take them there.
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| Posted: 07/ 23/ 07 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Entropy Squared wrote: | | WestViking wrote: | | The move is also focusing attention on the alleged 'hate speech' which is at the core of the complaint. I am sure he CHRC does not want to go down that road. |
But we're going to take them there. |
Right E2 I like your attitude. Lets turn this around and get this to cause the CHRC to come crashing down.
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| Posted: 07/ 23/ 07 11:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Entropy Squared wrote: | | WestViking wrote: | | The move is also focusing attention on the alleged 'hate speech' which is at the core of the complaint. I am sure he CHRC does not want to go down that road. |
But we're going to take them there. |
I doubt that the CHRC set out to awaken several thousand citizens who value their right to the freedom of expression. The ‘watch what you say’ shot across Free Dominion’s bow was intended to intimidate, not to start a grassroots revolution.
The last thing the CHRC expected was a respondent who would publicise a complaint rather than cowering under a desk, pleading for mercy, and hoping for the best. 
Every one of us who considers the FD forums a home where we can make comments, debate issues, and express our opinions as long as we adhere to house rules, finds the CHRC intervention in FD affairs an unwarranted infringement on our liberty and rights. 
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Faramir
Joined: 01 Dec 2004 Total posts: 17175 Location: Victoria, House of War Age: 39 Gender: Male
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| Posted: 07/ 24/ 07 1:32 am Post subject: |
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| WestViking wrote: | | Connie wrote: | | When I found out that bloggers were deliberately posting the offending comments on their blogs, I was incredibly moved. I don't think I've ever been so proud to be a Canadian. |
So you should be - bloggers are not protected by CHRA Section 13 (3), so they are sticking their necks out and making life very hard for the CHRC.
The move is also focusing attention on the alleged 'hate speech' which is at the core of the complaint. I am sure he CHRC does not want to go down that road. |
Could they go after Michael Coren for saying that in Islamic countries they would probably stone him for being a Catholic and a Jew?
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Faramir
Joined: 01 Dec 2004 Total posts: 17175 Location: Victoria, House of War Age: 39 Gender: Male
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Connie, are you keeping your cards close to your chest? Just curious when you are going to make a response to the CHRC - are you waiting to legal advice to make that response? Not that it is necc any of my business - just curious.
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The opinions I have just expressed are my own. The owners of Free Dominion are not coercing any particular opinion from me.
Andrew Jackson, the seventh president of the United States, has this to
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| leewgrant Joined: 22 Jun 2004 Total posts: 6830 Location: Gilmour and Causeyside Sts Gender: Unknown
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| Posted: 07/ 24/ 07 8:42 am Post subject: |
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| Connie wrote: | | When I found out that bloggers were deliberately posting the offending comments on their blogs, I was incredibly moved. I don't think I've ever been so proud to be a Canadian. |
Very, very gratifying. Free speech in this country is not going to be undermined by a teacher in a junior college with a political agenda.
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| SUZANNE Location: Ottawa Gender: Unknown
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| leewgrant Joined: 22 Jun 2004 Total posts: 6830 Location: Gilmour and Causeyside Sts Gender: Unknown
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| Posted: 07/ 24/ 07 11:51 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | The following are the COMMENTS on the Free Dominion website that have sparked an official Canadian government accusation of hate speech:
“I can’t figure out why the homosexuals I ran into are on the side of the Muslims. After all, Muslims who practice Sharia law tend to advocate beheading homosexuals.”
“I defy Islamic censorship and speak about what I believe is the truth about violent Islamism and its threat to religious liberty in Canada.” |
I know. Isn't it shocking? So long as we have so-called "hate speech" laws we cannot call ourselves a free country.
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| leewgrant Joined: 22 Jun 2004 Total posts: 6830 Location: Gilmour and Causeyside Sts Gender: Unknown
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I am thinking of filing a complaint with the CHRC. It's a freedom of religion complaint. It will be that Ms Gentes' complaint is an effort to silence Free Dominion and thus restrict my constitutional right to comment on Islam. If there is freedom of speech in this country there is also the freedom to comment on and critique religion - as Bill Whatcott was doing.
And since I have Morton's Toe I will try to get disability in there too. 
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