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PostPosted: 05/ 10/ 06 2:32 am    Post subject: So I Joined The Liberal Party of Canada Today Reply with quote

As a 15-year old I argued with my high school teacher about the merits of the Mike Harris government, causing him to slam the door and leave the class in frustration.

As a 16 year old I sat up and listened to recordings of Rush Limbaugh, read books by Thomas Sowell, and read NewsMax.com religiously.

By the time I was 20, I walked around my campus sporting a "Bush-Cheney 2004" button on my shirt.

And I just filled out a form making myself the newest member of the Liberal Party of Canada.

Why the sudden change? It would be false to use that old tired axoim of "I didn't leave [blank], [blank] left me." I left conservatism.

When I was younger I understood rather quickly that leftist policy seeks to bureaucratize a person in the methods and manners of a typical government employee - dull, tedious, lacking passion and vision. I embraced Conservatism as a competing ideology that seeks to allow people to use the passion, vision, and reason as they saw fit.

What I did not see was while the left seeked to bureaucratize a person through government, the right seeks to do the same through a corporation. Looking around a typical corporate office you see drones who are no better or worse then a government employee - they are only under less security.

Conservatism has become - both here, and in the United States - an ideology seeking to re-create a forgotten (and mythic) past. I do not wish to spend my life trying to put the past together again, but look at the world through clear eyes and try to create a wonderful future.

To that end, the Conservative distrust and hostility to the international march of history - the convergence of people, nations, languages, economies, policy, international solutions to solve international problems - is the final straw in my mind (even if the faux puritanism they preach is not hard enough to stomach, which it is).

Conservatives are both wonderful and terrible people, as are liberals. But I see the chance to create the best and most meaningful kind of change - change that helps the world, helps communities, solves problems - through the Liberal Party of Canada.

This is a board of small-c ideas, and it should be populated by small-c thinkers, so I don't think it is appropriate for me to post here anymore. I have learned a lot from all of you - lurking mostly - and wish all of you well.


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PostPosted: 05/ 10/ 06 2:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good luck with your venture. When you have had a good look inside the LPC, you will find the door here open.
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PostPosted: 05/ 10/ 06 3:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What I did not see was while the left seeked to bureaucratize a person through government, the right seeks to do the same through a corporation.

the main difference between right and left is the role of gov't, the left wants more gov't intervention while the right wants less. if you want to go off and live in a hippy commune, nothing would prevent you from doing so in a right-wing society, it would be a voluntary action on the part of the individual as opposed to enforcing collectivism on everyone like the LPC/NDP would like to do.
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PostPosted: 05/ 10/ 06 5:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're kidding, right? Cool
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PostPosted: 05/ 10/ 06 6:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peter O'Donnell wrote:
You're kidding, right? Cool


No, he's not kidding. Another victim of the disease we call Liberalism. Barf

Oh yea JFD Reloaded, don't let the door hit you in @$$ on the way out!
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PostPosted: 05/ 10/ 06 6:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The dark side must of won you over with shiny baubles.
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PostPosted: 05/ 10/ 06 6:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Come on JBG - I'd rather see these ideas in one of your ineffable poems. You're a wonderful small c conservative in life - father, family, profession -and an independent thinker and responsible citizen - AND I think you know it.

I too joined the Liberal Party of Canada several years ago albeit to get a vote at the convention to ditch Chretien. When he ducked the vote, I cancelled the membership. I felt a bit like a squeezie spy but it seemed like the only avenue of protest I could travel at the time (that didn't involve bloodshed).

By the way thanks for helping me get back on FD but what does 'reloaded' mean?
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PostPosted: 05/ 10/ 06 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

duuuude i think your account got hacked!!!!11

if not you must just be a stone cold fool.

After all it is the modern liberal party that is the party of both the corporation and the public service.

The conservatives have flipped to the new liberals, Harper is the grandson of Alexander Mackenzie, and the liberals are those who only concern with the past while trying to socially engineer the future.

The difference between the new conservatives and liberals is do you believe in freedom or do you believe it is the responsibility for the government to tell you how to live, because the common man is too foolish to figure it out for himself.
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PostPosted: 05/ 10/ 06 8:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Conservatives are not trying to relive the past. We are trying to maintain what is rightfully ours.
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PostPosted: 05/ 10/ 06 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought long and hard about what response was warranted to your opus to conservatism.

After much deliberation, the obvious one is the correct one:

You Are An Idiot
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PostPosted: 05/ 10/ 06 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think he's suffered a stroke. Sad
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PostPosted: 05/ 10/ 06 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

homeandnativeland wrote:
Conservatives are not trying to relive the past. We are trying to maintain what is rightfully ours.


... and rightfully just.
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PostPosted: 05/ 10/ 06 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JFD, good luck. Of course, you will have to stop believing in the potential of individuals. As well, you will have to think that you are to blame for every problem (I assume that you are, in fact, a white male).

Oh, and don't forget about the lobotomy. That way, you will be eligible for the Liberal leadership.
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PostPosted: 05/ 10/ 06 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This has to be a joke.

But if it's not, don't let the door hit you.
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PostPosted: 05/ 10/ 06 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope this is a joke.

If not, good luck to you (you'll need it) ... and come on back when you grow up.

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