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JFD ReloadedJoined: 11 Nov 2004 Total posts: 336 Gender: Unknown
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Posted: 05/ 10/ 06 2:32 am Post subject: So I Joined The Liberal Party of Canada Today |
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As a 15-year old I argued with my high school teacher about the merits of the Mike Harris government, causing him to slam the door and leave the class in frustration.
As a 16 year old I sat up and listened to recordings of Rush Limbaugh, read books by Thomas Sowell, and read NewsMax.com religiously.
By the time I was 20, I walked around my campus sporting a "Bush-Cheney 2004" button on my shirt.
And I just filled out a form making myself the newest member of the Liberal Party of Canada.
Why the sudden change? It would be false to use that old tired axoim of "I didn't leave [blank], [blank] left me." I left conservatism.
When I was younger I understood rather quickly that leftist policy seeks to bureaucratize a person in the methods and manners of a typical government employee - dull, tedious, lacking passion and vision. I embraced Conservatism as a competing ideology that seeks to allow people to use the passion, vision, and reason as they saw fit.
What I did not see was while the left seeked to bureaucratize a person through government, the right seeks to do the same through a corporation. Looking around a typical corporate office you see drones who are no better or worse then a government employee - they are only under less security.
Conservatism has become - both here, and in the United States - an ideology seeking to re-create a forgotten (and mythic) past. I do not wish to spend my life trying to put the past together again, but look at the world through clear eyes and try to create a wonderful future.
To that end, the Conservative distrust and hostility to the international march of history - the convergence of people, nations, languages, economies, policy, international solutions to solve international problems - is the final straw in my mind (even if the faux puritanism they preach is not hard enough to stomach, which it is).
Conservatives are both wonderful and terrible people, as are liberals. But I see the chance to create the best and most meaningful kind of change - change that helps the world, helps communities, solves problems - through the Liberal Party of Canada.
This is a board of small-c ideas, and it should be populated by small-c thinkers, so I don't think it is appropriate for me to post here anymore. I have learned a lot from all of you - lurking mostly - and wish all of you well.
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Posted: 05/ 10/ 06 2:36 am Post subject: |
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Good luck with your venture. When you have had a good look inside the LPC, you will find the door here open. _________________ Hall Monitor of the Shadowy GroupTM
The most effective way to stifle democracy is to transfer decision-making from the public arena to unaccountable institutions: activist judges, human rights tribunals, parliamentary committees, civil service bureaucrats and political party hacks. |
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WarHawkster
Joined: 03 Jul 2005 Total posts: 1296 Location: Saanich BC Gender: Male
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Posted: 05/ 10/ 06 3:15 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | What I did not see was while the left seeked to bureaucratize a person through government, the right seeks to do the same through a corporation. |
the main difference between right and left is the role of gov't, the left wants more gov't intervention while the right wants less. if you want to go off and live in a hippy commune, nothing would prevent you from doing so in a right-wing society, it would be a voluntary action on the part of the individual as opposed to enforcing collectivism on everyone like the LPC/NDP would like to do. |
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Peter O'Donnell
Joined: 10 Mar 2005 Total posts: 7995 Location: BC Age: 60 Gender: Male
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Posted: 05/ 10/ 06 5:51 am Post subject: |
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You're kidding, right?  |
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905belt
Joined: 15 Jan 2006 Total posts: 369 Location: My Underground Lair Age: 1 Gender: Unknown
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Posted: 05/ 10/ 06 6:00 am Post subject: |
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| Peter O'Donnell wrote: | You're kidding, right?  |
No, he's not kidding. Another victim of the disease we call Liberalism.
Oh yea JFD Reloaded, don't let the door hit you in @$$ on the way out! _________________ Let this be a reminder to you all that this organization will not tolerate failure - Dr. Evil |
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hoarydragon
Joined: 14 Apr 2005 Total posts: 3950 Gender: Unknown
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Posted: 05/ 10/ 06 6:00 am Post subject: |
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| The dark side must of won you over with shiny baubles. |
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pinetreeJoined: 26 Sep 2003 Total posts: 1797 Gender: Unknown
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Posted: 05/ 10/ 06 6:07 am Post subject: |
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Come on JBG - I'd rather see these ideas in one of your ineffable poems. You're a wonderful small c conservative in life - father, family, profession -and an independent thinker and responsible citizen - AND I think you know it.
I too joined the Liberal Party of Canada several years ago albeit to get a vote at the convention to ditch Chretien. When he ducked the vote, I cancelled the membership. I felt a bit like a squeezie spy but it seemed like the only avenue of protest I could travel at the time (that didn't involve bloodshed).
By the way thanks for helping me get back on FD but what does 'reloaded' mean? _________________ "WE'RE ALL CONSERVATIVES" |
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Jon27Joined: 25 May 2004 Total posts: 303 Gender: Unknown
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Posted: 05/ 10/ 06 7:32 am Post subject: |
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duuuude i think your account got hacked!!!!11
if not you must just be a stone cold fool.
After all it is the modern liberal party that is the party of both the corporation and the public service.
The conservatives have flipped to the new liberals, Harper is the grandson of Alexander Mackenzie, and the liberals are those who only concern with the past while trying to socially engineer the future.
The difference between the new conservatives and liberals is do you believe in freedom or do you believe it is the responsibility for the government to tell you how to live, because the common man is too foolish to figure it out for himself. |
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homeandnativeland
Joined: 02 Feb 2006 Total posts: 3829 Location: Ontario Age: 40 Gender: Male
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Posted: 05/ 10/ 06 8:14 am Post subject: |
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| Conservatives are not trying to relive the past. We are trying to maintain what is rightfully ours. |
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bulldog905Member
Joined: 07 Jan 2001 Total posts: 15782 Gender: Unknown
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Posted: 05/ 10/ 06 8:19 am Post subject: |
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I thought long and hard about what response was warranted to your opus to conservatism.
After much deliberation, the obvious one is the correct one:
You Are An Idiot |
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EdS
Joined: 06 Jan 2001 Total posts: 16586 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Age: 15 Gender: Male
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Posted: 05/ 10/ 06 8:39 am Post subject: |
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I think he's suffered a stroke.  _________________ "There are some opinions so stupid, only liberals could hold them"
-- after George Orwell
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NorthOf45
Joined: 12 Feb 2004 Total posts: 3626 Location: NB Gender: Male
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Posted: 05/ 10/ 06 8:56 am Post subject: |
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| homeandnativeland wrote: | | Conservatives are not trying to relive the past. We are trying to maintain what is rightfully ours. |
... and rightfully just. _________________ This thing about Harper's "hidden agenda" ... could we BE that fortuneate?
"What is the moral choice? To give up and become slaves, or fight for our freedom?" - Former sergeant-major George MacDonell, a Canadian veteran of Hong Kong |
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tanproJoined: 29 Jun 2005 Total posts: 1224 Location: Independent State of Alberta Gender: Male
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Posted: 05/ 10/ 06 9:13 am Post subject: |
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JFD, good luck. Of course, you will have to stop believing in the potential of individuals. As well, you will have to think that you are to blame for every problem (I assume that you are, in fact, a white male).
Oh, and don't forget about the lobotomy. That way, you will be eligible for the Liberal leadership. _________________ http://www.themoderateseparatist.com/ |
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SovietCanuckistanJoined: 08 Jun 2004 Total posts: 4320 Location: Toronto Age: 27 Gender: Male
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Posted: 05/ 10/ 06 9:20 am Post subject: |
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This has to be a joke.
But if it's not, don't let the door hit you. |
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Blue Canadian
Joined: 07 Oct 2004 Total posts: 2484 Location: Toronto Age: 51 Gender: Male
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Posted: 05/ 10/ 06 9:26 am Post subject: |
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I hope this is a joke.
If not, good luck to you (you'll need it) ... and come on back when you grow up.
 _________________ "Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet depreciate agitation, are men who want rain without thunder and lightning."
Frederick DOUGLASS
American abolitionist, author, orator (1817-1895)
The opinions expressed in my posts are mine and mine alone, and do not reflect the opinions or beliefs of Free Dominion. |
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