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 Striking ThoughtsJoined: 24 Nov 2004 Total posts: 881 Location: Lanark, Ontario Age: 41 Gender: Male
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 Posted: 11/ 17/ 05 12:32 pm Post subject: Ottawa South |
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Ottawa South from Elections.ca
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Validated Results by the Returning Officer
Validation Date: June 30, 2004
38th General Election
Ottawa South
Ontario
Electoral District No. 35064
Valid ballots: 59,230
Rejected ballots: 361
Total ballots cast: 59,591
Candidate_________Party___________________________Votes
John Akpata______Marijuana Party____________________495
Raymond Aubin___Independent ______________________225
Saroj Bains______Marxist-Leninist Party of Canada________79
John Ford ________Green Party of Canada____________3,398
Monia Mazigh______New Democratic Party ____________8,080
David McGuinty___Liberal Party of Canada______25,956
Alan Riddell_____Conservative Party of Canada_20,622
Brad Thomson______Progressive Canadian Party_________375
Total number of validated votes: 59,230 |
There is no CPC candidate currently listed on the Conservative Party website.
I think this riding is winnable. Polls had Alan Riddell leading until he was libeled by the local media during the last campaign. The media later issued a page ten retraction, but it was too late.
Anyon from this riding on FD? What do you think?
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dorionhawk
Joined: 12 May 2005 Total posts: 56 Location: West-Carleton/Ottawa Gender: Male
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| Posted: 11/ 17/ 05 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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I spoke with the riding president about a month ago, once the paper work hurdle is cleared it was my understanding that Alan Riddell would be the CPC candidate again.
visit his web site....http://www.alanriddell.com/ |
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| Enn Location: Ottawa Gender: Male
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| Posted: 11/ 17/ 05 2:26 pm Post subject: |
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Striking Thoughts wrote:
| Quote: | There is no CPC candidate currently listed on the Conservative Party website.
I think this riding is winnable. Polls had Alan Riddell leading until he was libeled by the local media during the last campaign. The media later issued a page ten retraction, but it was too late.
Anyone from this riding on FD? What do you think? |
I’m not in Ottawa South, but close-by.
The Ottawa South EDA website shows that the nomination meeting is “to be announced” on the meetings page that was last modified on 11/15/2005.
http://www.ottawasouth.ca/en/meetings.htm Contact info is also available from their website.
Regarding Alan Riddell’s loss in 2004, there was an awful lot of bad press in the Citizen and local radio on the accusations which you say were since retracted, so I think it is probable that it had a significantly negative effect on the results.
One challenge in Ottawa South is that Dalton McGuinty’s brother David is the standing Liberal MP, and Dalton will no doubt be providing support to his sibling. Just recently, Dalton was in town making funding announcements to hospitals, although I don’t know if any of it made it into the Ottawa South riding.
What could be bad news for the CPC in Ottawa South is that the big brother Dalton’s Ontario Provincial Liberals are leading the PCs significantly in recent polls.
http://www.legermarketing.com/documents/spclm/051011ENG.pdf
Also here: http://www.freedominion.ca/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=46375&
One reason for the increase in Ontario Provincial Liberal popularity might be that Dalton is bashing the feds about the so-called $23 billion surplus that Ontario pays out to Ottawa each year for nothing in return. However, my guess is that the McGuinty brothers will “place nice” with each other during the next federal election.
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Felix Culpa
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| Posted: 11/ 17/ 05 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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The real surprise is how poorly Monia Mazigh did. She was (is?) a very well-known name due to her work on behalf of her emprisoned husband, Mahar Arar.
Furthermore, there is a sizeable Muslim community in Ottawa South (particularly east of Bank Street). The pundits were expecting a strong turnout on her behalf from her co-religionists. But I guess not too many Muslims dig the NDP.
An interesting side-light: Monia had won a concession from Jack Layton that if elected she would have been allowed to abstain on the vote for SSM due to her religious convictions. However, Jack didn't give the same freedom of conscience to Bev Desjarlais. |
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| Heartofsong83 Joined: 29 Apr 2005 Total posts: 13130 Location: Up in the woods... Age: 26 Gender: Male
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| Posted: 11/ 17/ 05 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Fed wrote: |
An interesting side-light: Monia had won a concession from Jack Layton that if elected she would have been allowed to abstain on the vote for SSM due to her religious convictions. However, Jack didn't give the same freedom of conscience to Bev Desjarlais. |
Actually, he did give it to Bev. But Bev Desjarlais did not abstain, she voted against gay marriage. |
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| kenan Joined: 21 Mar 2004 Total posts: 5914 Location: British Columbia Gender: Male
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| Posted: 11/ 17/ 05 2:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Fed wrote: | The real surprise is how poorly Monia Mazigh did. She was (is?) a very well-known name due to her work on behalf of her emprisoned husband, Mahar Arar.
Furthermore, there is a sizeable Muslim community in Ottawa South (particularly east of Bank Street). The pundits were expecting a strong turnout on her behalf from her co-religionists. But I guess not too many Muslims dig the NDP.
An interesting side-light: Monia had won a concession from Jack Layton that if elected she would have been allowed to abstain on the vote for SSM due to her religious convictions. However, Jack didn't give the same freedom of conscience to Bev Desjarlais. |
In fairness to Layton, I believe he was prepared to "allow" Desjarlais to abstain, just not actually vote against SSM (oh the ceaseless generosity of socialism...)
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| jimmyr Joined: 29 May 2005 Total posts: 906 Gender: Unknown
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| Posted: 11/ 17/ 05 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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| I thought Barry Turner was nominated??? |
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| RantADay Gender: Unknown
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| Posted: 11/ 17/ 05 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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| jimmyr wrote: | | I thought Barry Turner was nominated??? |
My understanding is, that the party prevented Allan from running in the original nomination meeting because he wore a less-than-tasteful costume back in high school. Barry Turner then won by acclamation.
The Party then reversed their decision, and decided to have another nomination meeting. While things were up in the air, Barry kept calling the Party to find out what was going on and got no response. Pissed with their incompetence, he decided not to run again.
But I could be off a bit. This is all second hand. |
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| snowyman Joined: 17 Aug 2003 Total posts: 459 Gender: Unknown
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| Posted: 11/ 17/ 05 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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I’m not in Ottawa South, but close-by.
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I got this from the South Ottawa web site,
"commencing at the intersection of the Rideau River with Highway No. 417; thence generally easterly and generally southeasterly along said highway"
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"thence northwesterly along Limebank Road to Riverside Drive; thence northerly along said drive to the former southerly limit of the City of Ottawa; thence generally westerly along said former limit to the Rideau River; thence generally northerly along said river to the point of commencement. "
What I'd like to know, is the Hurdman Bus Terminal in Ottawa South ?
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| Striking Thoughts Joined: 24 Nov 2004 Total posts: 881 Location: Lanark, Ontario Age: 41 Gender: Male
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| Posted: 11/ 17/ 05 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Enn wrote: | Striking Thoughts wrote:
| Quote: | There is no CPC candidate currently listed on the Conservative Party website.
I think this riding is winnable. Polls had Alan Riddell leading until he was libeled by the local media during the last campaign. The media later issued a page ten retraction, but it was too late.
Anyone from this riding on FD? What do you think? |
Regarding Alan Riddell’s loss in 2004, there was an awful lot of bad press in the Citizen and local radio on the accusations which you say were since retracted, so I think it is probable that it had a significantly negative effect on the results.
One challenge in Ottawa South is that Dalton McGuinty’s brother David is the standing Liberal MP, and Dalton will no doubt be providing support to his sibling. Just recently, Dalton was in town making funding announcements to hospitals, although I don’t know if any of it made it into the Ottawa South riding.
What could be bad news for the CPC in Ottawa South is that the big brother Dalton’s Ontario Provincial Liberals are leading the PCs significantly in recent polls.
http://www.legermarketing.com/documents/spclm/051011ENG.pdf
Also here: http://www.freedominion.ca/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=46375&
One reason for the increase in Ontario Provincial Liberal popularity might be that Dalton is bashing the feds about the so-called $23 billion surplus that Ontario pays out to Ottawa each year for nothing in return. However, my guess is that the McGuinty brothers will “place nice” with each other during the next federal election. |
Dalton was running against Riddell in the last campaign, and Riddell was beating him hands down until the media ran the libel story. Somewhere here on FD I posted many of the details about the story, and the Ottawa Sun, who issued an apology after the election. Just a few days before the libelous story about Riddell was released, CJOH news in Ottawa had done a story about how much difficulty David McGuinty was having getting people to answer the door when he rang (his brother had just recently introduced the provincial health premium).
The media was played by someone- I don't think this was a simple case of bad research.
I really think the right candidate could take this seat from David McGuinty. A little reminder of the 'sins of the brother', a reminder of Liberal corruption, and a good dose of the Conservative platform could give us another Ontario seat.
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| Heartofsong83 Joined: 29 Apr 2005 Total posts: 13130 Location: Up in the woods... Age: 26 Gender: Male
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| Posted: 11/ 17/ 05 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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| snowyman wrote: | | Enn wrote: |
I’m not in Ottawa South, but close-by.
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I got this from the South Ottawa web site,
"commencing at the intersection of the Rideau River with Highway No. 417; thence generally easterly and generally southeasterly along said highway"
And,
"thence northwesterly along Limebank Road to Riverside Drive; thence northerly along said drive to the former southerly limit of the City of Ottawa; thence generally westerly along said former limit to the Rideau River; thence generally northerly along said river to the point of commencement. "
What I'd like to know, is the Hurdman Bus Terminal in Ottawa South ?
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Yes, it is, barely. The bridge across the Rideau River separates Ottawa Centre from Ottawa South, and Highway 417 separates Ottawa-Vanier from Ottawa South. |
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khori_wan_kenobi
Joined: 02 Jan 2003 Total posts: 6819 Location: The Land of Tomorrow! Gender: Unknown
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| Posted: 11/ 17/ 05 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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Ya, there were some issues at the nomination meeting but I believe they have a candidate.
I know for a fact that earlier this month we only had 2 ridings withouth candidate and yesterday I read in a newspaper that we had all 308.
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dorionhawk
Joined: 12 May 2005 Total posts: 56 Location: West-Carleton/Ottawa Gender: Male
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| Posted: 11/ 17/ 05 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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Yes Barry Turner left in a huff. I still believe that Riddell will be the candidate. If you really want to find out what and who for this riding I suggest that you call the Prez Ray Coutu and he will give you the answers. Ray is a great guy, calls a spade a spade. You might also want to add your name to the volunteer list and help put a Mcguinty on pogey.  |
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| snowyman Joined: 17 Aug 2003 Total posts: 459 Gender: Unknown
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| Posted: 11/ 18/ 05 8:53 am Post subject: |
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[quote="Heartofsong83"][quote="snowyman"] | Enn wrote: |
I’m not in Ottawa South, but close-by.
Yes, it is, barely. The bridge across the Rideau River separates Ottawa Centre from Ottawa South, and Highway 417 separates Ottawa-Vanier from Ottawa South. |
Thanks, I wasn't sure where exactly the line went.
Looks like I'm in . Not the Hurdman but Ottawa South.
I know who I'm voting for . And it ain't any relative of the Doofus.
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| Striking Thoughts Joined: 24 Nov 2004 Total posts: 881 Location: Lanark, Ontario Age: 41 Gender: Male
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| Posted: 11/ 28/ 05 10:10 am Post subject: |
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UPDATE
Ottawa South, from www.ottawasouth.ca
| Quote: | PRESS RELEASE - Ottawa - Nov 25, 2005
The Ottawa South Conservative association expressed its surprise at inaccurate media reports of its position on Alan Riddell's candidacy.
Said Robert Dekker, president of the association, "Our board of directors and membership recognize Alan Riddell as an excellent candidate and strongly support his right to represent us once again. At no time have we ever taken any other position and media reports to the contrary are inaccurate."
At a board meeting on Thursday night, Alan Riddell stated that he would withdraw from the nomination race in order to support Alan Cutler, the nationally-known whistleblower whose courageous actions sparked the Gomery Commission.
Said Dekker, "Riddell's statements to the board show that he is not just a team player, he has an unusual ability to put the party's, and Canada's interests ahead of his own."
Dekker joined with Riddell in encouraging Ottawa conservatives to strongly support Cutler's election bid.
He suggested that reporters wishing to enquire about statements reportedly made by party officials should contact those persons directly.
Said Dekker, "We thank Alan Riddell for this noble gesture and look forward to working with him again. We welcome Alan Cutler as our candidate and will work tirelessly to make this very principled Canadian a member of a Conservative government."
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