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styky
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Posted: 10/ 28/ 05 10:59 am Post subject: FD five finger wave lives on |
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This is an excerpt from CNN Lou dobs Money line Oct 26....
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0510/26/ldt.01.html
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KITTY PILGRIM, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Protesters in Canada call Condoleezza Rice a war criminal. She was also under fire on the issue of trade. Canadians said the U.S. can't be trusted.
REPORTER: How are other countries around the world going to be able to trust the word of the United States on anything?
PILGRIM: She called for a little perspective.
CONDOLEEZZA RICE, SECRETARY OF STATE: I think the word of the United States has been as good as gold in it's international dealings and it's agreements. I think it's extremely important not to speak in apocalyptical language about this issue.
PILGRIM: U.S.-Canada relations have deteriorated so badly that President Bush on his last trip to Canada quipped he was surprised Canadians were waving in a civilized way when his motorcade passed.
GEORGE W. BUSH, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I want to thank the Canadian people who came out to wave, with all five fingers, for their hospitality.
(LAUGHTER)
PILGRIM: Lumber is only four percent of trade.
But meanwhile, the United States supports Canada's industries: 85 percent of Canadian exports are bought by U.S. customers; some $250 billion worth from machinery, furniture, building materials and farm products.
The United States is also Canada's biggest customer for oil, but Canadian officials recently gloated about the possibility of selling oil to China, clearly to aggravate the United States.
Prime Minister Martin in a New York speech earlier this month said the United States has to pay back the $4 billion in duties it collected on Canadian lumber.
PAUL MARTIN, CANADIAN PRIME MINISTER: This is nonsense. More than that, it is a breach of faith.
Countries must live up to their agreements. The duties must be refunded. Free trade must be fair trade.
PILGRIM: It is fair -- the World Trade Organization ruled in favor of the United States.
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PILGRIM: Now, the Canadian prime minister is grandstanding for the public.
He has said the U.S. is out to humiliate Canada, while Canadian elections are expected early next year, and with the Canadian voters it serves political purpose to push back on the United States about trade, so the climate will likely stay tense for a little while longer -- Lou?
DOBBS: I am shocked and dismayed to learn that our neighbors to the north have government officials who play politics just like ours do down here in the barbarian south.
PILGRIM: And the thing they don't point out is that the lumber trade is subsidized, but they don't mention that.
(LAUGHTER)
DOBBS: It is -- I think that was pointed out pretty well at the WTO.
But I think it's humorous that Paul Martin and company would get so excited over what is three percent of a trade deal and one in which the Canadians are doing very well, thank you.
We're good pals, good neighbors. We'll have politics in both countries, see how it all works out. I'm sure it will work out well for all.
Kitty Pilgrim, thank you. _________________ FREE DOMINION FORUM RULES
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littleharbour
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Posted: 10/ 28/ 05 11:06 am Post subject: |
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If lefties like Lou Dodds aren't buying into Martin's jingoism, then he's got no hope of persuading anyone in the US government (Republican or Democrat) to cave on this issue. But then again, Martin doesn't want them to. He wants to go into the next election as captain canuck and question Harper's patriotism if he doesn't join in gleefully in the Yank bashing.
"Stephen Harper puts the interests of Ralph Klein and George Bush before the interests of Canadians. Don't let Stephen Harper sell Canada out to benefit his rich friends in Alberta. It's time the US and Alberta honoured their commitments and paid their fair share. I'm Paul Martin and I will defend Canada for the benefit of all Canadians." |
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LiberallyConservativeJoined: 14 Apr 2004 Total posts: 3935 Location: Liberal-central - Toronto ON Age: 26 Gender: Male
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Posted: 10/ 28/ 05 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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| littleharbour wrote: |
"Stephen Harper puts the interests of Ralph Klein and George Bush before the interests of Canadians. Don't let Stephen Harper sell Canada out to benefit his rich friends in Alberta. It's time the US and Alberta honoured their commitments and paid their fair share. I'm Paul Martin and I will defend Canada for the benefit of all Canadians." |
"... because losing our biggest customer is what Canadians REALLY want."
You know what? I hope Pauly does decide to burn our bridges with the Yanks.
That'll show the smug, self-righteous folks in Quebec, Toronto, and Vancouver just how small we really are.
Looks like it's time to apply for a Green Card, or consider moving to Alberta. _________________ http://dai-head-jai.blogspot.com/ |
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texasredtop
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Posted: 10/ 28/ 05 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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Martin is just securing his loonie left voting base by appearing to stand up to the US. If the WTO ruling was not in his favor, it doesn't really appear he has a leg to stand on but the left won't care, anything to make bad with the US works for them. They must love Martin so.  _________________ Pardon me Dick, but opinions posted on Free Dominion are those of the individual posters and are not necessarily the opinion of Free Dominion or its operators.
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| _Patrick_ Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Gender: Male
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Posted: 10/ 28/ 05 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | PILGRIM: U.S.-Canada relations have deteriorated so badly that President Bush on his last trip to Canada quipped he was surprised Canadians were waving in a civilized way when his motorcade passed.
GEORGE W. BUSH, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I want to thank the Canadian people who came out to wave, with all five fingers, for their hospitality. |
I will never forget that day. I remember telling Chris about the response after his long drive back to Toronto - he and his brother had no idea that it was being talked about all over the media.
Following the event on FD was fun and a memory I won't ever forget. You don't get that on Babble!
I sure hope that thread wasn't deleted in all the who-haw with hacker boy. _________________ "Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most." Dostoyevsky |
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nickjbor
Joined: 12 Mar 2004 Total posts: 8750 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Age: 25 Gender: Male
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Posted: 10/ 28/ 05 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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"stephen harper puts the interests of the members of the conservative party before canadians"
so we are not canadians? _________________ Opinions posted on Free Dominion are those of the individual posters and are not necessarily the opinion of Free Dominion or its operators. Free Dominion does not advocate violence, hate speech or an overthrow of the government. |
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Mark FournierMember
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Posted: 10/ 28/ 05 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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| karadjos wrote: | | I sure hope that thread wasn't deleted in all the who-haw with hacker boy. |
I've found the thread where we were organizing it, but I'm still looking for the thread with all the pics. _________________ "If it takes force to impose your ideas on your fellow man, there is something wrong with your ideas. If you are willing to use force to impose your ideas on your fellow man, there is something wrong with you. If you are willing to use violence to impose your ideas on your fellow man, you are a menace to society." - Entropy Squared |
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| _Patrick_ Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Gender: Male
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Posted: 10/ 28/ 05 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Entropy Squared wrote: | | karadjos wrote: | | I sure hope that thread wasn't deleted in all the who-haw with hacker boy. |
I've found the thread where we were organizing it, but I'm still looking for the thread with all the pics. |
Check this out!
http://66.221.49.64/
Cheers! _________________ "Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most." Dostoyevsky |
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texasredtop
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Posted: 10/ 28/ 05 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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 _________________ Pardon me Dick, but opinions posted on Free Dominion are those of the individual posters and are not necessarily the opinion of Free Dominion or its operators.
Free Dominion does not advocate violence, hate speech or an overthrow of the government.
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nickjbor
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Posted: 10/ 28/ 05 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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my fav pic from the site:
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Posted: 10/ 28/ 05 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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| I thought the WTO rulled in favour of Canada |
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| _Patrick_ Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Gender: Male
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Posted: 10/ 28/ 05 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Hodgson wrote: | | I thought the WTO rulled in favour of Canada |
I didn't attend the event because I don't like Bush 43. But what this group did proved that a small gesture can have an incredible impact. They were civil, honest and sincere in their intentions - and we're still talking about it.
Go piss on someone else's parade. _________________ "Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most." Dostoyevsky |
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texasredtop
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Posted: 10/ 28/ 05 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Hodgson wrote: | | I thought the WTO rulled in favour of Canada |
PILGRIM: It is fair -- the World Trade Organization ruled in favor of the United States.
from the article above _________________ Pardon me Dick, but opinions posted on Free Dominion are those of the individual posters and are not necessarily the opinion of Free Dominion or its operators.
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styky
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Posted: 10/ 28/ 05 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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The above transcript was in the Editorial Pages of Todays National post but it was not available on-line so I worked my google magic and tracked it down. Glad I did  _________________ FREE DOMINION FORUM RULES
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Posted: 10/ 28/ 05 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Pellaken wrote: | my fav pic from the site:
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If you like that one, you'll like this one even more.
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