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Posted: 04/ 01/ 04 9:18 pm Post subject:

Joe.

If your rather biased theory is correct then why is the channel popular in britian? It originally started out as an interactive channel option on Sky News after 9/11. It grew in popularity that it was moved to a regular channel.

This is because their is competition in Britain which there is not here. There is a visual method to the BBC funding through TV licensing. Fox News was an excellent channel. I loved Neil Cavuto and Hannity and Colmes they were actually interesting like Crossfire used to be.

I also think they provide something that is not available.

If you look at the US market for TV News and talk radio before Rush I would say that you are blowing smoke Joe. There was not the same amount of conservative Media. Rush changes all that and when he hit a nerve he changed everything.

The idea there is no market for these things is wrong. They is no market because CRTC and others are using their leverage to keep them out. Not to rock the boat.

Fox News is a valuable asset to American TV. It was enough of a reason for me to consider Directv seriously. Personally it speaks to a lot of Albertans but I guess you would not understand that since your name is Joe Clark Rocks Rolling Eyes

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Posted: 04/ 01/ 04 11:35 pm Post subject:

Posted: 04/ 02/ 04 9:32 pm Post subject:

Letter from British Columbia woman

Bill O'Reilly in his Letters segment at the end of his program read a letter from a woman in B.C. asking him to "do something" about getting Fox broadcast in Canada.

He laughed and said the Canadians don't want their network broadcast up their - he actually said: "the Socialist government don't want ..... "

He was really apologetic and said Fox would love to be up there too.

Posted: 04/ 02/ 04 10:08 pm Post subject:

I got a response:

Thank you for taking the time to contact the CRTC.
Any non-Canadian television channel - such as FOX News - must first be authorized for distribution in Canada. Here is how our system works.

We authorize the carriage of non-Canadian satellite services through our Lists of Eligible Satellite Services (Public Notice CRTC 2002-9: http://www.crtc.gc.ca/archive/ENG/Notices/2002/pb2002-9.htm

All requests for amendments to the Lists are assessed in light of certain criteria, including the our policy of not allowing the carriage of non-Canadian satellite services which can offer programming similar to Canadian pay and specialty services. Such requests must originate with an acceptable Canadian sponsor, which include licensees of broadcasting distribution undertakings and licensees of pay television or specialty service undertakings.

All that being said, however, you should know that we recently returned an application which wanted to have FOX News and other U.S. services added to the Lists of Eligible Satellite Services. Here is a link to our determination letter which further explains the Commission's response: http://www.crtc.gc.ca/archive/ENG/Letters/2003/lb031107.htm

I realize this likely isn't the answer you were hoping for, but I do hope it helps you to better understand our position in such matters.

Forrest Greene
CRTC Client Services

1-877-249-2782 /info@crtc.gc.ca/ télécopieur/facsimile (819) 994-0218
Conseil de la radiodiffusion et des télécommunications canadiennes / Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0N2

Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission / Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0N2

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Damn straight this isn't the answer I was hoping for! I haven't had a chance to go look at the reasons for their decision yet, although I wonder how CNN passed the test? And I wonder what kind of programming we already have available to us in Canada that is similar to Fox? Wasn't that the point I tried to make with them? I think Mr. Forrest "you ain't never gonna get a Fox flavoured chocolate from my box" Greene will be hearing from me again. Smile

Posted: 04/ 03/ 04 9:00 am Post subject:

Shiva

Good for you! - Give em heck - you just got a lot of bureauspeak in that reply meant to confuse and befuzzle those who aren't as comitted as you!

Time for some housecleaning!!!

I don't like censorship - choice is what democracy is all about - and the people are being denied choice. Not just for Fox but for other access in cable channels. Book burners!!! Shame on them.

Posted: 04/ 04/ 04 12:49 am Post subject:

I sent an email to Bell Expressvu and received an email which I forwarded to Fox news. This is the response I got from them:

Posted: 04/ 04/ 04 1:46 am Post subject:

Posted: 04/ 04/ 04 9:49 am Post subject:

Fox News has been called "conservative"

When Fox News came to my cable company I had read many articles - even by Time Mag about how conservative Fox News was.

As I began watching those first broadcasts, I kept waiting for the political ideological bias of all news events, as was being done "liberally" by Rather, Jennings, the hacks at CNN and MSNBC, PBS and CSPAN.

Since the political rhetoric began last fall, some networks have actually "come out" and blatantly used their bias "for" a candidate or a party and one would think that network was promoting one party only
and determined to get the current presiding party out of office. News is no longer news - but yet another campaign headquarters.

Back to the early days of Fox in my home....I was surprised - for every punch AT liberalism there was a commentary and/or debate FROM the liberal side.

This has been refined now to the most we can expect from "an entertainment source" which electronic "NEWS" is - and why the ratings have soared.

The difference is: Fox presents both sides, not just the left-liberal-biased news.

The change from the same old stories and presentations which all the other channels engaged in was so refreshing, I stopped looking for a "right-wing bias" which some admittedly have but they are advertised as such, and there are left-wing bias personalities offering their opinions as well.

CHOICE SHOULDN'T BE AN EXCEPTION IN NEWS, BUT A RIGHT!

And finally no government should ever have a final authority over news content other than obscenity and quality of acceptable language and programming. That should be their only concern.

A government who controls news is a dictatorship - no other way to look at it.

Posted: 04/ 11/ 04 9:05 pm Post subject:

I finally had a chance to write a response to Mr. Forrest Greene of CRTC client services. Over Easter dinner, the talk inevitably turned to politics and happily, we are all conservatives and all agree on the issues. Anyway, the point is, we talked about how vital it is to have media that is balanced if there is any hope of changing the way Canadians think about important issues. We have an absence of critical thinking in our population that results in people buying everything that is fed to them by our left leaning media . . . it's driving me bonkers!!!! So I felt motivated to respond to Mr. Greene. I hope he doesn't find me annoying. NOT.

Dear Mr. Greene:

I thank you for your response. I did follow the link to the CRTC's decision and note the following:

a) The rejection is based on the premise that the CRTC's restrictions are reasonable. I note that the CCTA was asking you to review your existing policies knowing that the programs, under current policies would be ineligible. The CCTA provided reasons why current policy should be reviewed; that Canadians are demanding choice and explained the extent to which this is affecting their ability to repatriate customers who are leaving the regulated system. It looks to me like the CRTC did not review its existing policies but rather simply restated their objections based on current policy;

b) In determining that Fox is a channel that is already available in English and may be competitive with licensed Canadian programming services, you completely ignore the fact that, currently there is no Canadian news program that will report the news from a conservative perspective, which was the point I made in my letter to you. The reality is we conservatives are unrepresented with current Canadian media fare and as such, Fox would be distinct from available Canadian programming. On that note, I think it is fair to ask how CNN managed to get included on your List of Eligible Services given that it is very much like the programming already available in Canada and that it is not Canadian?;

c) I also note that many of the other channels approved in the past could possibly be questioned in terms of meeting the criteria for demand. I certainly don't know the numbers but am curious to know what kind of demand we would have for such channels as Deutsche Welle, The Filipino Channel, TV Japan and TV Polonia here in Canada and imagine that these programs further, would not satisfy the language criteria contained in your mandate. But, I'm glad to know that the CRTC would be willing to provide this type of programming even if the numbers wouldn't warrant it. My mother, being born in Italy, enjoys the chance to watch RAI Canada. So in the spirit of providing choice and variety to Canadian viewers, I see that the CRTC must have flexibility in how they interpret their mandate when they choose to.

In the end Mr. Greene, I and many others I know, remain cynical about the CRTC's exclusion of Fox from the list of eligible services and feel that the CRTC is using the power given to it through the Broadcasting Act to deny conservatives a voice. One can do plenty of speculating as to why this might be so and none of it reflects very well on a supposedly free and open society where the government in power is not controlling what people hear and say. This is a sad commentary on the state of our liberties in Canada. I hope that the CRTC will address this seemingly politically driven interference with the choices that are made available to Canadian viewers.

Thank you.

p.s. I would appreciate a detailed and direct response to my question regarding CNN specifically and how it managed to be approved while Fox was not.

Let's see what Mr. Greene has to say to that! Smile

Posted: 04/ 11/ 04 11:46 pm Post subject: good

That's a good letter shiva.

Here's how I would have written it;

Dear Mr. Spleen:

You stink.

Thanks for the link to the blabbering bureaucratic website. Nice distraction.

Don't worry, I already knew that you are thickly insulated by enough bureaucratic layers to ignore the citizens of Canada FOR EVER.

I didn't need you to tell me that. So don't send me any more of your stupid links, ok?

I just want you to know, that I see through your greed for the power to micro-manage the life, mind, and viewing of each Canadian.

Thanks to you, Goebbels, Canadians are encased in a thick cocoon of propaganda and state sanctioned ignorance.

Thanks for being such a nice parent and making sure that all your little children are never exposed to "harmful viewing," such as the truth.

The oleaginous pap-nipple that we suck on ensures a fat and gluttonous mental diet of left-wing pablum for all Canadians.

You're such a loving mother.

I'm not writing this letter to get any results from you. What do you think I am, a Stupid White Canadian?

I am writing to express my hate. Thank you and your leftist Commissars for teaching me the true meaning of hate. Only you leftists could teach that lesson so deeply and so well.

Please write me back one of your smarmy little bureacratic letters so I can rip it to shreds and send it back to you in the mail.

Yours despisingly,

and here I put my real name and address.

And I wonder why I'm not getting any results!

Laughing

Posted: 04/ 12/ 04 12:13 am Post subject: bump[

bump for correspondence templates for contacting government officials

Posted: 04/ 12/ 04 1:13 am Post subject:

I loved your letter Sojourner!

Unfortunately, a letter like that wouldn't get responded to and would go straight into the circular file. I know if I got one like that, I'd read the first sentence and throw it away! Cool

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