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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article6962867.ece

From The Sunday Times
December 20, 2009
Police expect Mumbai-style terror attack on City of London

Scotland Yard has warned businesses in London to expect a Mumbai-style attack on the capital.

In a briefing in the City of London 12 days ago, a senior detective from SO15, the Metropolitan police counter-terrorism command, said: “Mumbai is coming to London.”

The detective said companies should anticipate a shooting and hostage-taking raid “involving a small number of gunmen with handguns and improvised explosive devices”.

The warning — the bluntest issued by police — has underlined an assessment that a terrorist cell may be preparing an attack on London early next year.

It was issued by the Met through its network of “security forums”, which provide business leaders, local government and the emergency services with counter-terrorism advice.

During a “commando-style” raid by 10 gunmen on hotels and cafes in Mumbai in November 2008, 174 people were killed and more than 300 injured over three days.

Officials now report an increase in “intelligence chatter” — communications captured by electronic eavesdropping agencies. One senior security adviser said the police warnings had intensified and become much more specific in the past fortnight.

“Before, there has been speculation. Now we are getting what appears to be a definite plot to carry out a firearms attack on London,” he said.

Earlier this year, police, military and intelligence services held an exercise in Kent to see whether they could defeat a commando raid in London by terrorists.

“The exercise brought out to those taking part that the capability doesn’t exist to deal with that situation should it arise,” said a military source.

Security sources said concerns had been raised by “chatter” on a prominent jihadist website two weeks ago.

One contributor suggested fighters could use automatic weapons to strike places such as nightclubs, sporting venues and Jewish centres.

In an online discussion hosted on December 2, another contributor invited suggestions for carrying out “guerrilla warfare” and proposed “a group of mujaheddin raid police stations and fire at them”.

Another said: “Make sure that all those at the location are of age, that there are no children and so on. Insist on the locations and times where no Muslims or children are to be expected.

“If machine guns are available, and explosive and expertise for [explosives] are not available, this is a good way ... The [Mumbai] operation is the ideal scenario for operations you are talking about.”

A third contributor said targets should be “chosen in a studied manner”.

He added: “In general, targeting economic joints and intelligence centres if possible has priority over police stations.”

The Met is understood to be struggling to draw up effective plans to deal with the challenge of mass shootings followed by a prolonged siege with terrorists prepared to kill their hostages and themselves.

In Mumbai, many victims were killed in the first half hour of the attack. The Met is concerned that it will be much longer before the SAS, which has traditionally dealt with terrorist sieges in London, would arrive from its base at Regent’s Park barracks.

Patrick Mercer, chairman of the Commons counter-terrorism sub-committee, said the threat was “very real”.

Posted: 12/ 20/ 09 8:52 am Post subject:

This would be very easy to arrange in Toronto. A Mensa friend of mine who is an old Columbia University prof from the 1960s figured out how to bring down Canada using half a dozen properly equipped and placed men in Toronto and 2 more of the same on Parliament Hill.

It would not surprise me if something similar might be planned for New Years Eve in New York City.
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Posted: 12/ 20/ 09 11:00 am Post subject:

What a bunch of yahoos in England. With the population disarmed and only criminals and terrorists in possession of guns, it would be like a shooting gallery. The ahole gun banners in Australia and New Zealand have set up the same scenario.

Gun banners are actually perverts and misogynists, whanting women to be unable to defend themselves from same. Crazies are everywhere, even masquerading as polical figures and ministers.

Actually crazie/gun banners are complicit in crime where armed citizens could defend themselves against much of what they suffer now.
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Posted: 12/ 20/ 09 11:13 am Post subject:

This article struck me for a few reasons. First of all, it took the writer until at least paragraph 10 to mention 'jihadists'. Sure, most people would know what we were talking about but it still strikes one as odd that we seem to want to avoid actually saying it out loud.

And the great lengths the officials seem to be going to tell the world how unprepared they are for this kind of attack is pathetic and makes the whole point of having such intelligence kind of useless, doesn't it?

Mighty kind of the terrorists to consider that they should be mindful of innocent children when choosing their target. Pick a place that likely won't have a lot of children, and Muslims, nearby.

Perhaps the gun-less bobbies should just lie down and play dead right now instead of bothering with the pretense of being there to protect the public.

Disgusting.

http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/015076.html

Posted: 12/ 20/ 09 11:20 am Post subject:

Hey, if people can literally climb unstopped onto the roof of the parliament building it would take only one muslim heavily vested to bring town the clock tower. Apparently that could have been done last week while Canadians were navel gazing... again.
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Posted: 12/ 20/ 09 7:27 pm Post subject:

Regarding this story and how it relates to America?

Remember- I have maintained for the longest time

"The question is not if,
but when..."
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Posted: 12/ 20/ 09 11:28 pm Post subject:

The British government have dealt with attacks before and they can be prepare only so much.
They are very professional in there way of dealing with situations.
The main point is trying to prevent it before it happen.
Unfortunatily the bad guys have to make the first move before they can prevent it.

Posted: 12/ 21/ 09 5:44 am Post subject:

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