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 Posted: 11/ 20/ 09 7:03 am Post subject: Hadley CRU has apparently been hacked –[epic fraud?] |
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Ruh-Roh! Looks like the cat is out of the bag-- too much to paste, use the daggone links... Hadley CRU has apparently been hacked – hundreds of files released [epic scientific fraud?]
Breaking News Story: CRU has apparently been hacked – hundreds of files released
Speculation on the Hadley CRU Hacking Story...
Hadley CRU has apparently been hacked – hundreds of files released (MUST READ!!)
The climateaudit.org site is overwhelmed already from people trying to get onto it. The lid has blown off Al Gore, George Soros, Goldman Sachs, the Sierra Club, and all the other scum that have been peddling the AGW myth. For those who were saying that climategate wouldn’t get into the media: Hadley CRU hacked with release of hundreds of docs and emails Top story tomorrow. Also http://www.climateaudit.org Spreading.
Ruh Roh! The Hot Air Cult gets exposed once again: The Sound Of All Hell About To Break Loose
The Hadley Climate Research Unit has been hacked;
An unknown person put postings on some climate skeptic websites that advertsied an FTP file on a Russian FTP server, here is the message that was placed on the Air Vent today:
We feel that climate science is, in the current situation, too important to
be kept under wraps. We hereby release a random selection of correspondence, code, and documents
The file was large, about 61 megabytes, containing hundreds of files. It contained data, code, and emails from Phil Jones at CRU to and from many people. I’ve seen the file, it appears to be genuine and from CRU. Others who have seen it concur- it appears genuine. There are so many files it appears unlikely that it is a hoax. The effort would be too great. Here is some of the emails just posted at Climate Audit on this thread: http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=7801#comments
Yowza. Air Vent link here. h/t ChrisinMB Posted by Kate at 12:07 AM| Comments (54)_________________ Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trakball into the Twilight... |
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backhoe
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| Posted: 11/ 20/ 09 7:13 am Post subject: |
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It appears to be genuine-
From one of the last comments at Watt's Up:
gary gulrud (03:09:26) :
Tim Blair is on the disaster:
http://blogs.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/timblair/
How the mighty fall, amid peals of laughter.
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Maikeru
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| Posted: 11/ 20/ 09 7:17 am Post subject: |
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note to all FD members:
Sell carbon credit shares ASAP !!
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backhoe
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| Posted: 11/ 20/ 09 7:30 am Post subject: |
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From the comment #62 here:
http://noconsensus.wordpress.com/2009/11/19/leaked-foia-files-62-mb-of-gold/#more-6188
vg said
November 20, 2009 at 5:29 am
Phils Jones has said they are genuine see update in WUWT posting on this
#59:
Good god there is a ton of content! From the likes of Yamal, IPCC, Michael Mann, Phil Jones’ take on everything including something from Gavin Schmidt, etc. I haven’t read them, but the titles of the reviews, papers, etc are all listed in full. Email correspondence is also filled to the brim of topics ranging to getting beer with coworkers, covering up lackluster proof of 20th century warming, etc.
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| Mark Fournier Member
Joined: 06 Jan 2001 Total posts: 15602 Location: Kingston, ON Gender: Male
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| Posted: 11/ 20/ 09 10:01 am Post subject: |
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It should be interesting to see how the True Believers try to explain away this reality. No matter how often they are lied to, no matter how much fraud and deceit that is exposed, they still hang onto their religious fear of the environment and their irrational phobic terror of a common molecule.
This is going to be fun. It probably isn't the final stake in the heart of the global warming cult, but it will be fun watching those of the faith squirm and try to lie and rationalize their way out of this one.
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| jstevens Joined: 21 Apr 2005 Total posts: 139 Location: Ottawa Age: 37 Gender: Male
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| Posted: 11/ 20/ 09 10:02 am Post subject: |
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At first blush it looks legit. Interesting to see how it plays out. This gives western governments an out to any climate change agreements. Be interesting to see if any take it or if the corruption is too embedded. |
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| Mark Fournier Member
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| Posted: 11/ 20/ 09 10:32 am Post subject: |
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I'm betting that the corruption is too embedded. Governments have no interest at all in seeing this scare evaporate on them.
The global warming scare is temporary, ultimately the facts will carry the day, but the scare itself isn't really the problem. The big problem is what governments have learned about exploiting a big scare. It is guaranteed that they will apply the lessons they learned from the global warming scare to the next big scare that comes along.
The genie is out of the bottle and I can't imagine how it can be returned. We will pay for this scare long after it is over.
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| B. Max Location: Alberta Canada Gender: Unknown
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| Posted: 11/ 20/ 09 10:34 am Post subject: |
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I believe I heard Inhofe callng for a full investigation the other day into all the goings on around the whole scam. This will be the ammunition he needs to get one. There's going to have to be some people going to jail for this. Others are going to be able to use it to stay out of jail. They need to go to one of these guys and offer him immunity from prosecution to spill the beans on exactly what went on, and on everyone else who's been involved.
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| jstevens Joined: 21 Apr 2005 Total posts: 139 Location: Ottawa Age: 37 Gender: Male
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| Posted: 11/ 20/ 09 10:44 am Post subject: |
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| B. Max wrote: |
I believe I heard Inhofe callng for a full investigation the other day into all the goings on around the whole scam. This will be the ammunition he needs to get one. There's going to have to be some people going to jail for this. Others are going to be able to use it to stay out of jail. They need to go to one of these guys and offer him immunity from prosecution to spill the beans on exactly what went on, and on everyone else who's been involved. |
I fear the ES is correct. Regardless of what happens, investigation trials or jail time, the systems for harnessing this "issue" is already in place and entrenched. I doubt it will stop anytime soon - it was after all never really about the science or the planet.
At this point - the only way that western civilization will survive is for the whole house of cards to come crashing down (and it will). Hopefully something better will emerge in it's place. |
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| Posted: 11/ 20/ 09 12:19 pm Post subject: |
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| How much play will this get by the MSM? |
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| Mark Fournier Member
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| Posted: 11/ 20/ 09 12:34 pm Post subject: |
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I have a copy of the info. We'll have it uploaded later today.
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| Marshall Location: The wilds of Ontariario Age: 80 Gender: Male
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| Posted: 11/ 20/ 09 12:36 pm Post subject: |
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We can be assured Peter Mansbridge will never mention this development on the CBC national news however I'm sure the US Senate committee investigating global warming and cap and trade legislation will be very interested in this revelation. I believe the jig is up for fatso Gore and compatriots but it still will be a fight to get MSM to accurately report the issue.
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| Mark Fournier Member
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I don't mean to pick on you, DA_Champion, but you are pretty much FD's official global warming promoter. What do you have to say about this? Does it shake your faith at all or are you still a stalwart true believer?
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