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PostPosted: 09/ 13/ 08 8:17 am    Post subject: Harassing censors just won't leave us alone! Reply with quote

I woke up this morning to see that I had been signed up for Ernst Zundel's email list.

The ironic thing is that I didn't even know that Zundel's site was still in existence, let alone that there was an email list, yet the people who supposedly hate him enough to call for his house to be firebombed, know their way around that site well enough to sign me up.

I really wish that regular Canadians could see what is going on here. All Mark and I have ever tried to do is provide a place where people could talk about politics, but we are constantly being attacked by people who post things to set us up, government agents who sign up to spy on us, communist thugs who spend their days trying to discredit us, and a government employee trying to sue us out of existence.

This latest immature little stunt would be funny if it wasn't for the fact that we know it was likely done to plant evidence on my computer of my "anti-Semitism". And, considering that the CHRC is STILL refusing (after nearly six months) to give me their files on Free Dominion, it would not be unreasonable to expect that someone is trying to set me up for an upcoming complaint that they don't want me to know about yet.

For all of you who think that I am being too hard on the CPC and those who support them this election, keep in mind that their Commission is still there, they are still withholding information from me about Free Dominion, and they are very likely preparing for their next attack as we speak.

If we don't take advantage of this opportunity to hold Harper's feet to the fire on free speech while he needs our support, we might as well just pack it in right now because if he can win a majority without having to discuss Section 13, there is no way he will go there once he has attained that power.
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PostPosted: 09/ 13/ 08 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another horrifying example of how dangerous the left really are - tampering with people's names and reputations.

I haven't been able to stomach 2 minutes at Ramadanarabble for maybe two years now. It's so utterly offensive yet I could never waste a second of my time interfering with the life or reputation of one of them. Their presentation speaks for itself and is their own worst enemy.
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PostPosted: 09/ 13/ 08 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree Connie, and tried to raise this issue here during the election. Even if people make a point of grilling each candidate they can publicly on this matter, it raises the level in the minds of the brain dead politicians.
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PostPosted: 09/ 13/ 08 8:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have contacted the administrator of that list and asked if they have IP logs for people who sign up.
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PostPosted: 09/ 13/ 08 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought Zundells site was shut down, maybe a miiror site. I have a guess on who it is. Your latest ban?
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PostPosted: 09/ 13/ 08 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I heard some communist put on the internet that Connie and I are lucky we haven't recieved some sort of "vigilante justice" by now and it really stuck in my mind. Not that I'm particularly worried about it but because it once again made me wonder what our horrible crimes are. What have we done that we deserve to have 'justice' meted out upon us, legitimate justice or vigilante justice?

We run a website where people can talk about the political issues of the day in Canada. Why does this make us deserving of some sort of punishment?

There are actually two reasons because there are two enemies. The first set of enemies are the up front socialists/communists in the ARA, and at least one of the ex-employees of the CHRC. The second set of enemies is the federal government itself.

Why do these two groups fear and loathe us? Because they can't defeat our basic political philosophy using logic and reason, therefore they MUST try to silence us. They have no other weapons at their disposal.
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PostPosted: 09/ 13/ 08 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wouldnt lose any sleep over it Mark. I have been threatened many times, ones that talk about it never act, all piss and wind. Its the silent ones you have to worry about.
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PostPosted: 09/ 13/ 08 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a suggestion. I normally don't go for this sort of thing but the current situation calls for it and the timing could not be better.

On the Big City Lib blog
http://bigcitylib.blogspot.com/

there is a post called: Embarass a Tory Monday: Harper Hangin' With Extremists

I have done a screen capture in case he yanks it.

BCL has time and again called Mark and Connie Nazis and argues that they are by way of association, i.e. Marc Lemire. It's fair to say he is doing this to Harper.

Since it seems to me that Harper is being "exposed to hatred" anyone could claim to be offended that the leader of our country is being so labeled. After all, it's clear he wants to distance himself from Connie and Mark (and dem der nazis). This is damaging to his reputation and that of the country he leads. As a Canadian, I am offended at the thought and I am convinced that this exposes my Prime Minister to hatred. Maybe someone should go Warman on BCL's ass.

I like this idea because it has the potential of dragging Harper into this fight, whether he likes it or not. And of course, he will not.

This might get some press. The Libs could have a field day with this stuff. Harper would then be forced to confront this issue.

This may be a half baked idea so tell if you think it is. The way I see it, it is analogous to digging a tunnel; sometimes dynamite is needed. A national story showing Mark, Connie and Harper together might help to remove the obstacle of Harper's silence on what free speech means. And now, equally important, freedom of association.
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PostPosted: 09/ 13/ 08 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This reinforces the truth behind the maxim that Freedom Isn't Free.

Connie and Mark deserve accolades not condemnation. The left are the most hateful people on the planet.

You are far from alone Connie and Mark and if push comes to shove you can count on a multitude of F.D'.ers to be right at your side.

The lefties cannot stand and fight, they don't have the depth of character for it. If you find out who did this then use some of the defense fund to sue the bastard and make his name public.
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PostPosted: 09/ 13/ 08 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think we could use the CHRC even if we wanted to, Narrowback. We are not part of an "identifiable group".

If we find out who it is, FF, I think he/she can be criminally charged for impersonating me.
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PostPosted: 09/ 13/ 08 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That site is owned by Ingrid Zundel in TN .. I believe that is Zundells wife.
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PostPosted: 09/ 13/ 08 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Connie Fournier wrote:
I don't think we could use the CHRC even if we wanted to, Narrowback. We are not part of an "identifiable group".

If we find out who it is, FF, I think he/she can be criminally charged for impersonating me.


If someone (not you or Mark) submits a complaint to the CHRC and cites Harper be attacked as their cause the CHRC will have to choose to turn it down or investigate. Either way, it should be interesting to hear their rationale on who is entitled to 'protection' from 'hatred'. If it makes the press, Harper will be forced to comment on his association with you and Mark. That's what I am getting at.
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PostPosted: 09/ 13/ 08 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can someone post a link to the Zundel website? I'm curious.
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PostPosted: 09/ 13/ 08 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Knox wrote:
Can someone post a link to the Zundel website? I'm curious.


I could but wont . If you want a pm with it just ask
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PostPosted: 09/ 13/ 08 11:51 am    Post subject: Re: Harassing censors just won't leave us alone! Reply with quote

Connie Fournier wrote:
I woke up this morning to see that I had been signed up for Ernst Zundel's email list.

The ironic thing is that I didn't even know that Zundel's site was still in existence, let alone that there was an email list, yet the people who supposedly hate him enough to call for his house to be firebombed, know their way around that site well enough to sign me up.

I really wish that regular Canadians could see what is going on here. All Mark and I have ever tried to do is provide a place where people could talk about politics, but we are constantly being attacked by people who post things to set us up, government agents who sign up to spy on us, communist thugs who spend their days trying to discredit us, and a government employee trying to sue us out of existence.

This latest immature little stunt would be funny if it wasn't for the fact that we know it was likely done to plant evidence on my computer of my "anti-Semitism". And, considering that the CHRC is STILL refusing (after nearly six months) to give me their files on Free Dominion, it would not be unreasonable to expect that someone is trying to set me up for an upcoming complaint that they don't want me to know about yet.

For all of you who think that I am being too hard on the CPC and those who support them this election, keep in mind that their Commission is still there, they are still withholding information from me about Free Dominion, and they are very likely preparing for their next attack as we speak.

If we don't take advantage of this opportunity to hold Harper's feet to the fire on free speech while he needs our support, we might as well just pack it in right now because if he can win a majority without having to discuss Section 13, there is no way he will go there once he has attained that power.


Politically this fight for free speech in Canada overrules all else; before, during and after the election. We can survive a Liberal gov but not a so called conservative gov that wants to silence Canadians.
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