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Mark Fournier
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August 13, 2008

Is the CHRC abandoning Richard Warman?

As an employee of the Canadian Human Rights Commission, Richard Warman was a star operative and investigator who testified in a large number of cases the commission brought to the CHRT for pre-conviction hearings. After his employment at the CHRC ended Warman remained the CHRC's most-favoured victim, winning award after award of other people's money to ease his injured feelings. But things are different now.

Now that the deeds of Richard Warman have brought the murky political world of the CHRC under the microscope of public scrutiny, and have contributed to the well-deserved disrepute of the very Act that allows the CHRC's existence, the CHRC seems to be trying to back away from its previously unqualified support of its most prolific complainant. But it may not be as easy for the CHRC to retreat as the commission might wish.

The next episode of this drama will be played out August 18, 2008 in Hamilton and it has the potential to be a real doozey.

In 2003 Richard Warman sued Jason Ouwendyk for defamation because suing people for defamation seems to be one of the things Richard Warman does for a living. Before this civil case got anywhere near being heard, Mr. Ouwendyk was compelled to file a Consumers Proposal to avoid bankruptcy. This Proposal should have protected Mr. Ouwendyk in a number of ways, but it appears to have failed to do so.

Somehow Richard Warman was able to convince the Proposal Trustee, despite the fact that the Ouwendyk case was never heard and no judgment was ever made against Mr. Ouwendyk, that he (Warman) was one of Mr. Ouwendyk's creditors and he began collecting money as such from Mr. Ouwendyk (through the Proposal). How this could have happened certainly needs to be investigated, but there is more.

One of the protections of a Proposal is that the party collecting can take no additional actions against the party paying. So rather than trying to use the civil courts to intitate another action against Mr. Ouwendyk, Richard Warman instead filed a complaint with his old friends at the CHRC charging Mr. Ouwendyk with a Section 13 violation and asking for more money to be awarded to him from Mr. Ouwendyk. With the CHRC's 100% conviction rate, Richard Warman stood to make even more money from Mr. Ouwendyk at the hearing before the CHRT scheduled for next week, even though he was already milking Mr. Ouwendyk through the Proposal.

In the bad, old days (maybe a year ago), under the cover of darkness, Richard Warman would have easily gotten away with it and nobody would have ever heard about it. That's how things worked then, but things have changed.

A year ago, this August 7, 2008 letter from Paul Fromm (which better explains what I have written above) would probably have had no significant impact on a CHRT hearing, but today it is causing amazing reactions.

As a start, for the first time in its history, the CHRC is backing off a Section 13 that they have taken all the way to a scheduled hearing. The CHRC responded to the Paul Fromm letter with two letters of their own to the CHRT informing the tribunal that it (the CHRC) would no longer be prosecuting this case and that they would not be attending the August 18 hearing in Hamilton. See pdfs here and here.

But the hearing chairman, Athanasios Hadjis, is not going to let them off the hook so easily. In a reply letter Mr. Hadjis told the CHRC that he expects them to appear at the hearing and he expects them to explain exactly why they are backing out at this last possible hour. See pdf here.

This puts the CHRC in a very awkward position and what they say on Monday could very well open a lot of new doors of inquiry. This is also very bad news for Richard warman, on many fronts. Will he even show up now for the hearing? The CHRC has been ordered to attend, but they were planning on being no-shows. Will the CHRC have to appear without their favourite victim at their sides?

Connie and I will be going to Hamilton to cover this event. It should be too good to miss.

We will report here first.

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Correction: The chairman of this upcoming hearing is not Athanasios Hadjis, it is Edward Peter Lustig. I apologize for the error.
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Posted: 08/ 14/ 08 11:37 am Post subject:

How can a guy like Warman be found "guilty" if he has NO morals...???

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Posted: 08/ 14/ 08 12:43 pm Post subject:

Some infighting between the Commission and the Tribunal? They used to work so well together destroying free speech. I guess things are not all fun and games down there now; Every deceitful and Un-Canadian move they make is now under the scope.

I think Hajis is feeling pretty stupid after letting Vigna get away with his Serenity now episode. And letting Warman get away with breaking every rule in the book. Well I'm sure he was fine with it until Levant told the world about it. Now Hajis is trying his best to look like a judge. Tough to be something you aren't.

Posted: 08/ 14/ 08 1:05 pm Post subject:

This is so great!

I can see Warman going down as thee useful idiot/scapegoat of all time. It will look good on him!

Sleep with dogs...

Posted: 08/ 14/ 08 1:33 pm Post subject:

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Posted: 08/ 14/ 08 4:02 pm Post subject:

"going to Hamilton to cover this event"

Could you provide the court address and time? Thanks.

Posted: 08/ 14/ 08 4:17 pm Post subject:

The second CHRC letter is interesting. The Commission claims that they don't want to continue fighting for Warman in the Ouwendyk complaint because 1) Ouwendyk's allegedly hateful posts are no longer on the Internet and 2) they can't recover a fine from Ouwendyk because he has filed a Consumer's Proposal to avoid bankruptcy. From what I understand, Mark Lemire's allegedly hateful Freedomsite forum is no longer on the Internet, yet the CHRC continues its case against him. And Section 13 is supposed to be remedial, not punitive, so whether or not a respondent can be fined ought not to matter to the CHRC. But it does.

Now, if only the Tribunal can order Mr. Warman to show up at the hearing. The case is RICHARD WARMAN v. Ouwendyk, not CHRC v. Ouwendyk.

Posted: 08/ 14/ 08 4:18 pm Post subject:

Warman needs to get laid. Dude is a joke.

Posted: 08/ 14/ 08 4:20 pm Post subject:

So this is what catharsis is all about? I laugh because this is absurd, and am angry and then sad that my tax dollars are paying for this mess.
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Posted: 08/ 14/ 08 4:46 pm Post subject:

It looks as though the Tribunal is positioning themselves to hang the commission out to dry, not just Warman...
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Posted: 08/ 14/ 08 4:48 pm Post subject:

Well at least they seem to be a bit off balance. Things won't be safe till the HRC's are dead and buried.

Posted: 08/ 14/ 08 5:57 pm Post subject:

Weird. I was sent an e-mail with a link to this image. It's very funny. I thought I would post it.

Posted: 08/ 14/ 08 6:31 pm Post subject:

August 18, 2008.
9:30am

John Sopinka Court House
Room 704
45 Main St. E.
Hamilton, ON
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Posted: 08/ 14/ 08 7:03 pm Post subject:

Connie, thanks for the information.

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