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PostPosted: 07/ 23/ 08 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Why am I unable to find a website for KLRVU Polling anywhere? AND why am I unable to find a phone number through Canada 411 for KLRVU Polling? Does this firm KLRVU Polling even exist?


You might want to read this blog page as it appears he's done some legwork on the subject

http://unrepentantoldhippie.blogspot.com/


So this polling firm is a sham, and the phone number does not exist, and I hope the national media runs with this and shames Campaign Life for the lies.

I wonder if the Conservative Party of Canada general membership was used in this some how?
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PostPosted: 07/ 23/ 08 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Charles J. White wrote:
styky wrote:
Charles J. White wrote:
Why am I unable to find a website for KLRVU Polling anywhere? AND why am I unable to find a phone number through Canada 411 for KLRVU Polling? Does this firm KLRVU Polling even exist?


You might want to read this blog page as it appears he's done some legwork on the subject

http://unrepentantoldhippie.blogspot.com/


So this polling firm is a sham, and the phone number does not exist, and I hope the national media runs with this and shames Campaign Life for the lies.

I wonder if the Conservative Party of Canada general membership was used in this some how?


Are all of the other online polls who had similar results shams too?
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PostPosted: 07/ 23/ 08 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Charles J. White wrote:
styky wrote:
Charles J. White wrote:
Why am I unable to find a website for KLRVU Polling anywhere? AND why am I unable to find a phone number through Canada 411 for KLRVU Polling? Does this firm KLRVU Polling even exist?


You might want to read this blog page as it appears he's done some legwork on the subject

http://unrepentantoldhippie.blogspot.com/


So this polling firm is a sham, and the phone number does not exist, and I hope the national media runs with this and shames Campaign Life for the lies.

I wonder if the Conservative Party of Canada general membership was used in this some how?


I'm in the same city as the so called company and also a member of the Party and they didn't call me. However that is a very serious alligation to make because of privacy issues. THey do have a privacy policy that you can read here... http://www.conservative.ca/EN/4799/77476
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PostPosted: 07/ 23/ 08 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brown envelope wrote:
Charles J. White wrote:
styky wrote:
Charles J. White wrote:
Why am I unable to find a website for KLRVU Polling anywhere? AND why am I unable to find a phone number through Canada 411 for KLRVU Polling? Does this firm KLRVU Polling even exist?


You might want to read this blog page as it appears he's done some legwork on the subject

http://unrepentantoldhippie.blogspot.com/


So this polling firm is a sham, and the phone number does not exist, and I hope the national media runs with this and shames Campaign Life for the lies.

I wonder if the Conservative Party of Canada general membership was used in this some how?


Are all of the other online polls who had similar results shams too?


The firm does not exist. It was a lie, it was done so that "conservative" leaning columnists, talk radio hosts, internet bloggers, and internet discussion groups like Free Dominion would pick up on it and use as representing some sort of legit numbers when in fact the entire thing was a lie. The FIRM does not exist and NO phone numbers exist for it AND it is vague overtones to the party...What a sham
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PostPosted: 07/ 23/ 08 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Charles J. White wrote:
Brown envelope wrote:
Charles J. White wrote:
styky wrote:
Charles J. White wrote:
Why am I unable to find a website for KLRVU Polling anywhere? AND why am I unable to find a phone number through Canada 411 for KLRVU Polling? Does this firm KLRVU Polling even exist?


You might want to read this blog page as it appears he's done some legwork on the subject

http://unrepentantoldhippie.blogspot.com/


So this polling firm is a sham, and the phone number does not exist, and I hope the national media runs with this and shames Campaign Life for the lies.

I wonder if the Conservative Party of Canada general membership was used in this some how?


Are all of the other online polls who had similar results shams too?


The firm does not exist. It was a lie, it was done so that "conservative" leaning columnists, talk radio hosts, internet bloggers, and internet discussion groups like Free Dominion would pick up on it and use as representing some sort of legit numbers when in fact the entire thing was a lie. The FIRM does not exist and NO phone numbers exist for it AND it is vague overtones to the party...What a sham


It was a sham but it doesn't mean every other poll that indicated people were opposed to this decision are not valid. Funny how the MSM uses the one poll thatshows people in favour.

I'm in the Winston Churchill camp when it comes to polls anyway: they are only good for dogs to pee on.
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PostPosted: 07/ 23/ 08 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Charles J. White wrote:
Brown envelope wrote:
Charles J. White wrote:
styky wrote:
Charles J. White wrote:
Why am I unable to find a website for KLRVU Polling anywhere? AND why am I unable to find a phone number through Canada 411 for KLRVU Polling? Does this firm KLRVU Polling even exist?


You might want to read this blog page as it appears he's done some legwork on the subject

http://unrepentantoldhippie.blogspot.com/


So this polling firm is a sham, and the phone number does not exist, and I hope the national media runs with this and shames Campaign Life for the lies.

I wonder if the Conservative Party of Canada general membership was used in this some how?


Are all of the other online polls who had similar results shams too?


The firm does not exist. It was a lie, it was done so that "conservative" leaning columnists, talk radio hosts, internet bloggers, and internet discussion groups like Free Dominion would pick up on it and use as representing some sort of legit numbers when in fact the entire thing was a lie. The FIRM does not exist and NO phone numbers exist for it AND it is vague overtones to the party...What a sham


Dear Charles J. White

The best way to expose sham results of sham public opinion pools conducted by bunch homosexuals holding firm grip on whole pooling "industry" and selling to Canadians smoke and mirrors for years with no end in sight, is to publish legitimatelly conducted public opinion pool and obscure who actually conducted it.

When it is done such way homosexuals and their radical feminist friends who have virtual monopoly on pooling start screaming fraud and start splashing their "findings" all over homosexual dominated MSM.

This "two thirds of Canadian support Order of Canada for Morgentaler" result of "public opinion pool" is as reliable as the one that said that ten percent of all men are homosexual. In order to get realistic result we should divide it by factor of five, at least.

Charles, keep working, you are doing wonderfull job.
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PostPosted: 07/ 23/ 08 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

karol wrote:
Charles J. White wrote:
Brown envelope wrote:
Charles J. White wrote:
styky wrote:
Charles J. White wrote:
Why am I unable to find a website for KLRVU Polling anywhere? AND why am I unable to find a phone number through Canada 411 for KLRVU Polling? Does this firm KLRVU Polling even exist?


You might want to read this blog page as it appears he's done some legwork on the subject

http://unrepentantoldhippie.blogspot.com/


So this polling firm is a sham, and the phone number does not exist, and I hope the national media runs with this and shames Campaign Life for the lies.

I wonder if the Conservative Party of Canada general membership was used in this some how?


Are all of the other online polls who had similar results shams too?


The firm does not exist. It was a lie, it was done so that "conservative" leaning columnists, talk radio hosts, internet bloggers, and internet discussion groups like Free Dominion would pick up on it and use as representing some sort of legit numbers when in fact the entire thing was a lie. The FIRM does not exist and NO phone numbers exist for it AND it is vague overtones to the party...What a sham


Dear Charles J. White

The best way to expose sham results of sham public opinion pools conducted by bunch homosexuals holding firm grip on whole pooling "industry" and selling to Canadians smoke and mirrors for years with no end in sight, is to publish legitimatelly conducted public opinion pool and obscure who actually conducted it.

When it is done such way homosexuals and their radical feminist friends who have virtual monopoly on pooling start screaming fraud and start splashing their "findings" all over homosexual dominated MSM.

This "two thirds of Canadian support Order of Canada for Morgentaler" result of "public opinion pool" is as reliable as the one that said that ten percent of all men are homosexual. In order to get realistic result we should divide it by factor of five, at least.

Charles, keep working, you are doing wonderfull job.


Interesting theory. So this seemingly mysterious polling firm that's been around for two years, what was their last poll on, and what were the results, and how and where were they released?
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PostPosted: 07/ 23/ 08 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's some information:

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KLRVU Research, Winnipeg, (204) 999-7446


http://www.cnw.ca/fr/releases/archive/July2008/22/c6629.html

(Found at the bottom of the page).
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PostPosted: 07/ 23/ 08 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Here's some information:

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KLRVU Research, Winnipeg, (204) 999-7446


http://www.cnw.ca/fr/releases/archive/July2008/22/c6629.html

(Found at the bottom of the page).


Old info. Phone number is the same as on this website here for an engraving company. Which, BTW, is the same as a polling company.

http://laserengraving.ca/laseringfleeceandbirchbarkfishhooksandrods.htm
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PostPosted: 07/ 23/ 08 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So the poll would only be valid if the company were owned by a pro-abort?

Sorry. That's BS. The question remains the same. The results remain the same.
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PostPosted: 07/ 23/ 08 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So the poll would only be valid if the company were owned by a pro-abort?

Sorry. That's BS. The question remains the same. The results remain the same.


It's way to much subterfuge for my liking, and I always consider the source of any information I see. So to answer your first question, no, it would be just as invalid as this one appears to be.
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PostPosted: 07/ 23/ 08 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try to click on that link:
http://www.ipsos-na.com/news/results.cfm?geo=1
Ipsos-Reid
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Than go down to:

July 9, 2008
Two Thirds (65%) Support Dr. Henry Morgentaler’s Appointment to the Order of Canada


and than click on

more »

and then write back to us what you found
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PostPosted: 07/ 23/ 08 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Try to click on that link:
http://www.ipsos-na.com/news/results.cfm?geo=1
Ipsos-Reid
Recent Canadian Polls & Research


Than go down to:

July 9, 2008
Two Thirds (65%) Support Dr. Henry Morgentaler’s Appointment to the Order of Canada


and than click on

more »

and then write back to us what you found


I got an error message. Curious, as I often am, I clicked on a few of the other entries as well. Guess what? Also error messages. Apparently, Ipsos doesn't want anyone to find out anything about anything.

Would you like to contact the authorities, or shall I?
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PostPosted: 07/ 23/ 08 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So this seemingly mysterious polling firm that's been around for two years, what was their last poll on, and what were the results, and how and where were they released


We may not know what their last poll was on, what the results were, etc.

Polling research isn't always released. In fact, it's often private. They may not have worked for a client who wanted their results published.


The results are the same whether the company has been in business 2 years or 20.

It's not necessarily "subterfuge" to not be listed in the phonebook or on the web. The company in question could have a regular list of clients and not want to take on more.
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PostPosted: 07/ 23/ 08 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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karol wrote:
Try to click on that link:
http://www.ipsos-na.com/news/results.cfm?geo=1
Ipsos-Reid
Recent Canadian Polls & Research


Than go down to:

July 9, 2008
Two Thirds (65%) Support Dr. Henry Morgentaler’s Appointment to the Order of Canada


and than click on

more »

and then write back to us what you found


I got an error message. Curious, as I often am, I clicked on a few of the other entries as well. Guess what? Also error messages. Apparently, Ipsos doesn't want anyone to find out anything about anything.

Would you like to contact the authorities, or shall I?


Go ahead and report to us what you find out.
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