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 Posted: 06/ 07/ 08 7:40 am Post subject: CHRC Evidence Tampering of Transcripts - Breaking ! |
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CHRC Evidence Tampering of Transcripts - Breaking !
CHRC Transcript Irregularities
Explosive testimony by CHRC Investigator Dean Steacy on Richard Warman is missing from Transcript!
You Tube Watch the YouTube video on the CHRC Missing Transcript
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyKRUbogQfg
On March 25, 2008, Marc Lemire called 2 CHRC employees to testify before the Canadian Human Rights Tribunal, as part of his massive challenge of Section 13 (internet thought control legislation) of the Canadian Human rights Act. Before the hearing, the Canadian Human Rights Tribunal, no longer provided a court reporter to transcribe the hearings, but instead now offers a digital voice recording, which the parties could pay and have transcribed themselves. In order to try to stop the impending damage to the human rights industries credibility, the Canadian Human Rights Commission in a shocking move applied for a Secret Hearing and have the Media and members of the public banned from the hearings. On March 20th, 2008, the Tribunal ruled in Marc Lemire's favour, and opened the doors to the media and the public. The Tribunal went further and questioned the absurd claims of "security" by the CHRC.
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[9] The outcome of the s. 37 matter gives me pause to question the soundness of the Commission's invocation of public security concerns with respect to the testimony of these witnesses.
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On March 25, 2008, explosive testimony was heard. The first witness a representative from Bell Canada's law enforcement team who provided evidence on an IP address CHRC employees used to attempt to entrap Marc Lemire on the Stormfront.Org website. This issue has now lead to both an RCMP investigation, and a Privacy Office investigation. Jonathan Kay, editor of the National Post wrote an article and called the hearing a "landmark disaster for the Canadian Human Rights Commission".
Lorne Gunter writing in the Edmonton Journal on March 30, 2008 stated:
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"After years of investigating Lemire, CHRC investigators had too little proof that he was a hatemonger to proceed to a hearing. So they began logging onto his website under an assumed name, "Jadewarr," and posting provocative comments in hopes of obtaining racist replies they could then use in their case again Lemire.
To cover their activities, it appears commission employees logged onto the Internet through a wireless connection they detected in a woman's apartment near their offices, rather than using the commission's own server. They neither sought the woman's permission nor acquired a judicial warrant to tap into her computer."
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The Canadian Human Rights Commission was in full damage recovery mode after the spying network of the CHRC was exposed and reported on heavily in the national media. As part of the damage control the CHRC was doing, they contracted a company to transcribe the March 25, 2008 Digital Recording into a transcript. And in a strange Public Relations campaign they distributed copies of the transcript to the media. This was revealed by Ezra Levant on May 9th, 2008.
On his popular blog, Ezra Levant wrote that:
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Imagine my surprise when, today, I received a copy of a beautifully-transcribed court report of the March 25th hearing. I received it -- but Marc Lemire and his lawyer have not.
I got it from a reporter who had received it from the CHRC itself. How did he get it? Did he make an Access to Information request? Did he pull a Jadewarr, and hack into the CHRC's computer and steal it?
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No. He got it because a CHRC spin doctor called him up, and tried to spin his newspaper that the CHRC wasn't all that bad. He tried to show how the CHRC really hadn't gone online under a pseudonym to post bigoted comments -- even though the CHRC has admitted to doing so a half dozen times, under oath. The CHRC spin doctor used the transcript as "proof". I have no problem with the CHRC engaging in desperate spin attempts. I love it, in fact -- the more they open their mouths, the more discredited they are, and in ways that their critics, like me, could never achieve.
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But isn't there something corrupt about the CHRC having a transcript of the hearing, not disclosing it to the respondent, but using it against the respondent with reporters who have no formal standing in the case? While the respondent has to hand-transcribe the audio recording of that hearing -- or pay out of his own pocket for someone to do so -- the CHRC has a transcribed version. But they don't turn it over. They try to use it as a PR weapon. (Good luck with that.)
In a copy of the Transcript the CHRC spread around to the media, a very explosive line was missing.
Here is a copy of the CHRC transcript:
CHRC Transcript - Volume 26, Page 5764
Now the truth, as transcribed by Marc Lemire
Lemire Transcript | Volume 26, Page 20
Download a copy of the audio recording as provided by the Canadian Human Rights Tribunal, which makes it absolutely clear that the CHRC version of the transcript is missing this information
Dean Steacy's Testimony in MP3 format
Senior CHRC investigator Dean Steacy seems to contradict sworn testimony by Richard Warman:
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MR. FROMM : Could I direct your attention to tab 17?
THE CHAIRPERSON: Perhaps you should specify which of the two versions.
MR. FROMM : Yes. To the one we were given yesterday, one of three, where it says across the top, "Welcome, Jadewarr." Do you see that, Mr. Warman?
MR. WARMAN: I do.
MR. FROM M : Can you explain what that is, "Welcome, Jadewarr?
MR. WARMAN: It appears to be a name that was logged in under.
MR. FROMM : By whom?
MR. WARMAN: I'm sorry, I don't know.
MR. FROMM : Would that not have to have been by you?
MR. WARMAN: No, it would not.
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Beaumont Transcript, Volume 2, Page 273
Watch the YouTube video on the CHRC Missing Transcript
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyKRUbogQfg
Source Freedom Site org
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Also see Socon’s post (Not Another Nickel) about evidence gone missing from the files when searched under an Access To Information application. This was back in early May '08
Not Another Nickel
and …..
CHRC files – Destroying Evidence 05/ 06/ 08
Why did this go missing ?
It goes back to the Jessica Beaumont files. What so special about Jessica Beaumont? Lemire's case breaks open on the Beaumont files. So do a number of other past cases.
Beaumont is the case the CHRC & CHRT MUST bury !
(CHRC) Jessica Choo Choo Part VIII
(CHRC) Jessica Choo Choo Part VII
(CHRC) Jessica Choo Choo Part VI
(CHRC) Jessica Choo Choo Part V
(CHRC) Jessica Choo Choo Part IV
(CHRC) Jessica Choo Choo Part III
(CHRC) Jessica Choo Choo Part II
(CHRC) Jessica Choo Choo Part I
And now listen to Ian Fine answer Ezra Levant
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0q7dCBZ8yEo
Robbie's Roos are there.
Ready, willing and able to suppress all of this.
CORRUPTION !
and this is the Accountibility in government promised by the CPC ?
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http://www.socon.ca/or_bust/?p=1052
with audio. 
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Socon or Bust's link with audio
http://www.socon.ca/or_bust/?p=1052
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| cinyc Location: New York Gender: Unknown
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At best, the CHRC released a transcript to the press without vetting it for accuracy.
At worst, they're trying to hide their true conduct from the press.
Normally, I give everyone the benefit of the doubt, and if there's an innocent explanation, I'd believe it unless shown otherwise. Given their past conduct, the CHRC really doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt, though. |
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| Posted: 06/ 07/ 08 4:58 pm Post subject: |
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| cinyc wrote: | At best, the CHRC released a transcript to the press without vetting it for accuracy.
At worst, they're trying to hide their true conduct from the press.
Normally, I give everyone the benefit of the doubt, and if there's an innocent explanation, I'd believe it unless shown otherwise. Given their past conduct, the CHRC really doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt, though. |
On the contrary,
I think they deserve the benefit of LOTS of doubt....!!!
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| cinyc wrote: | At best, the CHRC released a transcript to the press without vetting it for accuracy.
At worst, they're trying to hide their true conduct from the press.
Normally, I give everyone the benefit of the doubt, and if there's an innocent explanation, I'd believe it unless shown otherwise. Given their past conduct, the CHRC really doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt, though. |
Oops. Honest mistake. 
Seems almost too easy.
It almost looks like they want a sacrificial lamb. So they're throwing worman under the bus.
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All the antics and positioning that surrounded this particular hearing is something to ponder. I think the CHRC was preparing themselves for the worst - and expected to get caught with their pants down over something.
This is just a little distractin to throw the track dogs off scent. There was something the CHRC were really worried about, and the hearing was pretty lame and uneventful compared to the expectations and the antics leading up to it.
Mark Lemire et. al. missed something... |
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| Posted: 06/ 07/ 08 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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Here's my prediction: The CHRC will accuse Mr. Lamire of tampering with the audio tape. In order to prove he didn't he'll have to spend thousands of dollars to prove it's unaltered (sort of sounds like a page out of the Liberal Handbook on Do-we-cheat-them-and-how) The result will be the criminal and privy counsil investigation will stall if not die completely. Harper's happy, the CHRC can pontificate they are vindicated and Mr. Lamire will be portrayed as a Neo Nazi who had it coming.
I have no faith that the Harper Goberment gives a rat's ass about corruption and unethical behavior amongst his Federal Employees at the CHRC. The Media is agog about a biker babe with a double D cup, they can't be bothered with a real hot button topic during Harper's reign because all the parties have something to lose. Section 13 is the love child of the NDP and the Liberals, it's become a Whore under Harpers leadship and he'll ignore the whore until one of the MPs is caught with said whore.
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| cinyc Location: New York Gender: Unknown
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| Posted: 06/ 07/ 08 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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Think of it this way - at best, the CHRC is sloppy and can't be trusted without verification. At worst, they're frauds who can't be trusted.
Either way, the CHRC can't be trusted. |
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| Posted: 06/ 07/ 08 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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If this bothers you, write your MP.
Don't ask them to look into it.
DEMAND they uphold the law and justice.
find your MP and email addy here
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I did fourhorses but the truth isn't a defense in Canada anymore and my MP is so Liberal he bleeds for the CHRC.
When the election is called I'll hit the streets and do as much damage to both the Cons and Liberals as I can. I'd rather decent people vote for the pot party than the alternative. If they're stoned what harm can our MPs do?
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| cinyc wrote: | At best, the CHRC released a transcript to the press without vetting it for accuracy.
At worst, they're trying to hide their true conduct from the press.
Normally, I give everyone the benefit of the doubt, and if there's an innocent explanation, I'd believe it unless shown otherwise. Given their past conduct, the CHRC really doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt, though. |
The worst actually is a conspiracy to pervert the course of justice. As Ezra Levant has pointed out the missing part of the exchange is key to at least three pending investigations/court cases.
Without seeing more of the comparisons between the 'true transcript' and the 'CHRC transcript' I'll hold judgement. Transcription of oral evidence is a bloody tedious job and it is possible for mistakes to creep in.
However, if the only bit (or bits) that is missing is evidence that is key to several other proceedings then there is some explaining to do. (PS I know what the response to an honest mistake of this nature would be, so how the HRC responds to this in the next week or so will be key). |
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| Pauly wrote: | | (PS I know what the response to an honest mistake of this nature would be, so how the HRC responds to this in the next week or so will be key). |
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| Posted: 06/ 07/ 08 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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I want a name!
I want to know:
a) who wrote the altered transcript
b) who copied it and deleted that critical sentence
c) who authorized the release of the transcript
d) who released the transcript
e) who is the neo-Reichfurher in Ottawa who is commandeering these operations ?
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