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PostPosted: 05/ 30/ 08 5:33 am    Post subject: Cummings CPC MP - repeal s 13 - corrupt! Reply with quote


Tory MP: repeal section 13, "weed out corruption", fight "tirelessly" for freedom


By Ezra Levant on May 29, 2008





John Cummins is the Conservative MP for the B.C. riding of Delta-Richmond East. On May 18, he received this letter from a constituent. Some excerpts:

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I have always voted Conservative federally. Always... But, unless I see concrete evidence before the next election that the Conservative Government is taking concrete steps to rectify the many problems endemic to the Canadian Human Rights Commission, I will not be voting Conservative in the next election. I will be encouraging others to follow my lead.

...It takes a lot to get me out of my chair, and I have never written a letter to my MP or MLA before...

The [CHRC] is corrupt and it is a direct threat to our fundamental freedoms. I cannot think of a more deadly combination...

The Government's submissions in the Lemire case are a disgrace and an embarrassment... Please note that the right not to be offended is NOT enshrined in our Bill of Rights. It is more important than the current price of gas or whether our troops should be in or out of Aghanistan. In fact, when you think about it, it is why our soldiers are fighting in Afghanistan...



It's really a great letter. Again, you can read the whole thing here.


Two days later, Cummins replied -- not just to his constituent, but with a forceful and principled letter to the Prime Minister's office, too. You can see a copy of that letter here. Its text (I've bolded some great lines):
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Dear Prime Minister:

I am writing on behalf of [name redacted] who wrote (copy enclosed) regarding his concerns with the Canadian Human Rights Commission...

In his letter to me, [name] states, "the CHRC is corrupt and a direct threat to our fundamental freedoms." He states that he wants to see the corruption weeded out, Section 13(1) repealed and to see the CHRC returned to its original, limited mandate. You should know that I am in full support of [name]'s request regarding the CHRC. Canadian soldiers have given their lives fighting for the freedom of speech and freedom of the press. These rights should be passionately and tirelessly protected.

I am asking that you respond to [name]'s concerns as expressed in his letter to me.

Thank you for your consideration of this important matter.

Yours truly,

John Cummins, M.P.

Delta - Richmond East


Those are two great letters, by two Canadians who care very deeply about freedom.

Please take a moment to send Cummins an e-mail of encouragement. Just click here.

And if you haven't yet written to your own MP asking for his or her views on the CHRC, please do so now. You can find your MP's contact information here (by name) and here (by postal code). If you get a reply, please send it to me by e-mail.
ezra@ezralevant.com

We're racking up quite a tally of MPs from both the Conservative and Liberal parties. I'm impressed with the bi-partisan nature of this campaign, which is exactly how it ought to be. Freedom of speech is bigger than partisan politics, and I'm glad our Parliamentarians understand that -- in fact, the word Parliament itself comes from the Old French word "to talk".


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PostPosted: 05/ 30/ 08 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is MP number 11 on our side.

So far our side is winning, 11-5. But we need to identify everyone else.

(The five enemies are the four leaders and the Justice Minister)
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PostPosted: 05/ 30/ 08 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There is MP number 11 on our side.

So far our side is winning, 11-5. But we need to identify everyone else.

(The five enemies are the four leaders and the Justice Minister)
I'm not sure I understand the math. We have 11. There are another hundred and some Conservative MPs who are basically hiding under their beds. That is not winning. We need to flush them out.
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PostPosted: 05/ 30/ 08 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keep the pressure on.
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PostPosted: 05/ 30/ 08 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And kepp telling other people you know about the HRCs.
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PostPosted: 05/ 30/ 08 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd like to take this opportunity to let the FD community know that I will be re-assessing my plan to run as an independent in Burnaby-New Westminster in the federal election which many expect either this autumn or in spring 2009.

Now that Jason Kenney, Peter van Loan, and a number of other elected MPs have signalled their opposition to Section 13, I feel that there is perhaps a growing nucleus of important and relatively powerful MPs in the CPC caucus who "get it" and therefore, since one of my main reasons for running was that I thought perhaps many of them didn't "get it" from their silence back in April, the prime reason for me to take this action is fading.

I am not totally certain that this will be my decision ... for example, if the PM comes out and says that he is fully committed to the HRC process and Section 13, and if there are other direct negative signs offered up, then I may continue to plan this campaign.

As for the other main issue that merits my concern, the phoney climate change issue, I suspect this will have to come out in the campaign to distinguish between the CPC and the Liberals, otherwise there is almost bound to be a party split on east-west lines, and I think this is widely understood by now in the party. This is hardly my personal idiosyncratic view, and it is really only BC premier Gordon Campbell who stands alone among western centrist or conservative politicians who doesn't (yet) understand this issue.

I would welcome your insights on this matter, but it has encouraged me to learn that so many MPs are beginning to understand and voice their concerns about Section 13. Now we need to hear from the PM and see the current Justice Minister either changing his approach or resigning, probably the latter being the only viable option.

I would very much like to see Jason Kenney as the new Justice Minister, or somebody else who has spoken out on Section 13.
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PostPosted: 05/ 30/ 08 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peter O'Donnell wrote:
I'd like to take this opportunity to let the FD community know that I will be re-assessing my plan to run as an independent in Burnaby-New Westminster in the federal election which many expect either this autumn or in spring 2009.

Now that Jason Kenney, Peter van Loan, and a number of other elected MPs have signalled their opposition to Section 13, I feel that there is perhaps a growing nucleus of important and relatively powerful MPs in the CPC caucus who "get it" and therefore, since one of my main reasons for running was that I thought perhaps many of them didn't "get it" from their silence back in April, the prime reason for me to take this action is fading.

I am not totally certain that this will be my decision ... for example, if the PM comes out and says that he is fully committed to the HRC process and Section 13, and if there are other direct negative signs offered up, then I may continue to plan this campaign.

As for the other main issue that merits my concern, the phoney climate change issue, I suspect this will have to come out in the campaign to distinguish between the CPC and the Liberals, otherwise there is almost bound to be a party split on east-west lines, and I think this is widely understood by now in the party. This is hardly my personal idiosyncratic view, and it is really only BC premier Gordon Campbell who stands alone among western centrist or conservative politicians who doesn't (yet) understand this issue.

I would welcome your insights on this matter, but it has encouraged me to learn that so many MPs are beginning to understand and voice their concerns about Section 13. Now we need to hear from the PM and see the current Justice Minister either changing his approach or resigning, probably the latter being the only viable option.

I would very much like to see Jason Kenney as the new Justice Minister, or somebody else who has spoken out on Section 13.


Peter Van Loan? When did he speak out against S.13?
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PostPosted: 05/ 30/ 08 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have written my MP, Bryon Wilfert, Richmond Hill, and will post the response I receive
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PostPosted: 05/ 31/ 08 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't received a response from Bev Shipley as of yet
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PostPosted: 07/ 31/ 08 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So only two months after an email to my MP, Bryon Wilfert (Lib) Richmond Hill, I get a bit of a mixed reply by mail. The important bit I reproduce below, seems he is for the CHRC, except when he is against it. I omit his paragraphs about the goodness of CHRA and Trudeau's legacy.

[quote="Bryon Wilfert]For these reasons, I do not believe that abolishing the Canadian Human Rights Commission, or repealing specific sections of the Canadian Human Rights Act, is a constructive way to promote human rights in Canada. With that said, I also believe we should never shy away from constructive debates to improve the Canadian Human Rights Act.

As you know, my colleague the Honourable Keith Martin wants to delete Section 13(1), which has enabled the commission to move into an entirely different area - investigating, prosecuting and fining people who communicate anything that someone else takes offence to which is a change I support.

I have been informed that in the three decades of the Canadian Human Rights Commission (CHRC), existence, not a single defendant has been acquitted; not one. The Commission has a staggering 100% conviction rate. These are questionable facts that need to be addressed.[/quote]
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icemachine wrote:
So only two months after an email to my MP, Bryon Wilfert (Lib) Richmond Hill, I get a bit of a mixed reply by mail. The important bit I reproduce below, seems he is for the CHRC, except when he is against it. I omit his paragraphs about the goodness of CHRA and Trudeau's legacy.

[quote="Bryon Wilfert]For these reasons, I do not believe that abolishing the Canadian Human Rights Commission, or repealing specific sections of the Canadian Human Rights Act, is a constructive way to promote human rights in Canada. With that said, I also believe we should never shy away from constructive debates to improve the Canadian Human Rights Act.

As you know, my colleague the Honourable Keith Martin wants to delete Section 13(1), which has enabled the commission to move into an entirely different area - investigating, prosecuting and fining people who communicate anything that someone else takes offence to which is a change I support.

I have been informed that in the three decades of the Canadian Human Rights Commission (CHRC), existence, not a single defendant has been acquitted; not one. The Commission has a staggering 100% conviction rate. These are questionable facts that need to be addressed.
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This man is a living billboard for what is wrong with Canadian politics.


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