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| SovietCanuckistan wrote: | | texasredtop wrote: | | SovietCanuckistan wrote: | | I'm simply saying that white people shouldn't feel guilty or ashamed to say they'd like to vote for another white person. Blacks, hispanics, east indians, etc openly say they would prefer to vote for their ethnicity. It's not racist. |
Race has no bearing on who I vote for. |
I never said it did. I'm merely saying we all shouldn't bash protectionist because he prefers to vote for someone in his ethnicity. |
Well pardon me but he said I was either a liar or a Marxist. What part of that holds any truth?
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| SUZANNE Location: Ottawa Gender: Unknown
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| Posted: 10/ 16/ 05 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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| SovietCanuckistan wrote: | | I'm simply saying that white people shouldn't feel guilty or ashamed to say they'd like to vote for another white person. Blacks, hispanics, east indians, etc openly say they would prefer to vote for their ethnicity. It's not racist. |
He said he wouldn't vote for a black. That's different. I don't hear too many non-whites say they won't vote for white people.
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| Posted: 10/ 16/ 05 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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| SUZANNE wrote: | | SovietCanuckistan wrote: | | I'm simply saying that white people shouldn't feel guilty or ashamed to say they'd like to vote for another white person. Blacks, hispanics, east indians, etc openly say they would prefer to vote for their ethnicity. It's not racist. |
He said he wouldn't vote for a black. That's different. I don't hear too many non-whites say they won't vote for white people. |
In short, Protectionist is a useful idiot for the homosexual lobby. He would vote for Barney Frank (or Svend Robinson) over Alan Keyes (or Ann Cools).
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Protectionist
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| Posted: 10/ 16/ 05 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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Have a nice evening with your family and friends and have a great week.
This book may help further explain why I am who I am:
Link via American Renaissance
Goodbye. |
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JBG
Joined: 10 Mar 2004 Total posts: 8237 Location: New York City area Age: 52 Gender: Male
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| Posted: 10/ 16/ 05 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Protectionist wrote: | What about us?
Why can't we study what constitutes our genes too?
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The straight answer is that the IQ average of 100 is calculated using "your group's" genes. The studies tend to be on groups that score materially higher or lower.
The Jews' IQ is around 114 average, or about 14% higher. This is an average obviously, since my IQ is about 89, or 11% lower than average.
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CodeTech
Joined: 25 Dec 2004 Total posts: 1162 Location: Calgary, Alberta (sometimes canada) Gender: Male
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| Posted: 10/ 16/ 05 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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See, topics like this expose the whack jobs. Good.
First off, my own MP is Deepak, and he is whatever he is: East Indian, Pakistani, I don't care. He's the candidate that I and apparently 85% of other voters in my district felt best represented us. In spite of the fact that this district is overwhelmingly white.
Second, anyone "exposing" the massive global "jewish conspiracy" is a whack job, and safe to ignore or mock. Seriously.
Third, MOST PEOPLE are not motivated by "ethnicity" or "race". For anything. It actually concerns me how many people seem to think this is a big issue; "protectionist" especially. Guy, you have to learn that even though YOU might be a racist, racial purist, ethnic god, or whatever you think you are, most people really don't care. No, it's not that we THINK we don't care but secretly hate other races. Most people just plain don't care. Give me someone qualified, I'll work with them. Period.
Oh, and brian, that doesn't make me a "red tory" either.
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| kowalski Joined: 15 May 2004 Total posts: 2935 Location: Seeking a safe seat. Gender: Unknown
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| Posted: 10/ 16/ 05 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Good ideas don't work forever. Maybe instead of Blacks try Negroes. |
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Protectionist
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| Posted: 10/ 17/ 05 1:52 am Post subject: |
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| Protectionist wrote: | | SUZANNE wrote: | Protectionist said he won't vote for a black. That's not quite the same thing.
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Saying you would prefer to vote for someone in your ethnic group is fine regardless what race you're from.
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Why? |
I said I wouldn't talk anymore but I'll jump in on this last point:
If I knew that the paritcular conservative candidate of different ethnicity than mine was completely trustworthy with the thesis I espouse in this post:
http://www.freedominion.ca/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=545175#545175
then I'd vote for him/her.
Otherwise no. All people think in terms of ethnic interests, those who claim they don't are either lying, are in denial, or are Marxists.
BTW, could you imagine a Black Muslim becoming Prime Minister of Israel? I don't see that happening anytime soon.
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Suzanne, you're right in one strong respect: that comment I made was a form of virulent racialist thinking and I'm sorry for saying it.
The reason I thought it: because I think in terms of what's always been the status quo in Canada: my ethnicity continuing to be ruled over by my ethnicity.
It is a very bad idea to ignore or censor this issue. People who think like I do are not a minority in this country (among European peoples), and the fact is that an even larger majority of visible minorities, proportionately, think in terms of ethnic interests which to a very significant extent, revolve around race (religion is another important ethnic interest matter).
As Europeans become a visible minority, many will feel a sentiment of dispossession and replacement. Western society must deal with this issue. Europeans, for their own sake, must deal with this issue for there are serious implications and risks involved that will affect us.
Again, this is not an issue that should be ignored: Canada has a long history of thinking in terms of which the rest of the world still abides by, ie every non-Western nation (including First World Standard countries like Israel and Japan):
| Quote: | Chinese Canadian History
Excerpts from Last Steps to Freedom by John Boyko
http://www.accesstomedia.org/change/resources/chinesecdn.pdf
http://accesstomedia.org/rfc/resources/archives/antiracism.html
"Prime Minister Mackenzie King wrote "that Canada should remain a white man's country is believed to be not only desirable for economic and social reasons, but also highly necessary on political and national grounds."
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/ca/
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A History of the Vote in Canada: A Review Article
by Steve Muhlberger, Associate Professor of History, Nipissing University.
http://www.nipissingu.ca/department/history/muhlberger/histdem/canvote.htm
During the interwar period a number of British Columbia Members of Parliament were willing to justify these exclusions. An independent MP named A.W. Neill was something of a star in these debates. In 1936 he argued against Japanese enfranchisement, saying a petition from the affected community was "sob stuff" and "claptrap." (p. 81) Similarly only "sickly sentimental" parliamentarians favored the enfranchisement of Doukhobors. (p. 84) During the Second World War, when Japanese-Canadians were expelled from British Columbia and interned elsewhere in Canada, Neill was happy to support a bill excluding the internees from voting in other provinces: "This is a white man's country, and we want it left a white man's country." (p. 82).
All of these racial and religious exclusions had to wait until after World War II to be lifted.
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Note: after the previous post, and in light this essay:
High Noon to Midnight: Why Current Immigration Policy Dooms American Jewry April 2004
These two essays are fitting:
Immigration and the Unmentionable Question of Ethnic Interests October 27, 2004.
Was the 1924 Immigration Cut-off 'Racist'? June 19, 2004
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A Book to Hold next to your Heart
By Raman Kaur
SikhSpectrum.com Quarterly Issue No.16, May 2004
http://www.sikhspectrum.com/052004/lions_r_k.htm
http://www.sikhspectrum.com/
To admit orientals in large numbers would mean in the end the extinction of the white peoples and we have always in mind the necessity of keeping this a white man's country. -- Sir Richard MacBride, Prime Minister of British Columbia at that time.
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Immigration: Where Canada's Forefathers Stood by Alex Greer.
Right, left, or centre, socialist, liberal or conservative, French or English, Canada Prime Ministers and leaders were united. Canada was a European country. That we were founded as a multiracial stewpot is a myth. Prime Minister Sir Robert Borden proclaimed that Canada was a White man's country.
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Persisting Prejudices: A Few Points on Immigration
By Julien Vernet, The McGill Daily
http://www.mcgilldaily.com/view.php?aid=1200
Immigration is once again changing the face of Canadian society. According to 2001 census data, Canada has the world’s second highest percentage of foreign-born residents living within its borders. A surge in immigration over the past decade has created a pool of newcomers now forming nearly one fifth of the Canadian population.
On the surface it seems like a lot has changed, immigration-wise, since the early 20th century. While a 1911 amendment to the Immigration Act banned “any immigrants belonging to the Negro race,” modern immigration now champions the ideal of a multicultural Canada.
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Census 1961.
http://www.web.net/~ccr/history.html
Of the Canadian population of 18,238,247, 15.6% (2,844,263) were immigrants (i.e. born outside Canada). 48% of the immigrant population was female (but 52% of immigrants from the UK, 54% of those from the U.S. and only 38% of those from "Asiatic countries"). 58% of immigrants had been in Canada for 10 years or more. 34% of immigrants were from the UK, 51% from other European countries (Italy by itself represented 9%), 10% from the U.S., 2% from "Asiatic countries", 0.6% from "other countries" (which includes all of Africa apart from South Africa). 63% of immigrants were Canadian citizens. In terms of "ethnic origins", 43.8% were from the British Isles, 30.4% French, 5.8% German, 2.6% Ukrainian and 2.5% Italian. There were 121,753 "Asiatics" (0.7%). 96.8% of the population was European.
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A White Man's Province
Patricia E. Roy
http://www.ubcpress.ubc.ca/search/title_book.asp?BookID=1506
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Although federal leaders such as John A. Macdonald and Wilfrid Laurier shared a desire to keep Canada a 'white man's country',...
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You get the point. |
People think in terms of ethnic interests (racially, religiously - in many cases both are one in the same) because they know that if they're the minority, they're vulnerable to abuse: Jews being a good example in terms of Western civilization.
Whites are not immune to racism: Haiti, Zimbabwe, in some cases, South Africa - examples of violent racism. Non-violent cases of racism exist against Whites, what I consider anti-European supremacism existing in Western society that's driving us, the religion most of us practice or used to practice in past generations, as well as our culture -> towards eradication.
Racism is intolerable no matter where it happens in the world. The hurt from racism can disperse itself in a form of social disengagement: for example, a low self esteem can translate into low academic achievement, followed by poor employment opportunities, followed by lower standards of living: I don't want to be a part of doing such horrible things to others and I want to be able to focus again on my degree, on my studies: science ie biology, not this stuff!
Blacks, in the future, may experience increasing forms of racism as an indirect result of specific scientific and sociological studies; they must be protected from racism ( Globe & Mail: The New Science of Race, www.charlesdarwinresearch.org , American Renaissance: The Colour of Crime, - a half decent radio interview discussing the Colour of Crime).
Multiculturalism and multiracialism are modern concepts. People like me are tyring to figure them out and work with them in constructive positive ways.
If I have ever been racist to others, I sincerely apologize. I beg you and God for forgiveness.
I still feel this way:
| Quote: | If I knew that the paritcular conservative candidate of different ethnicity than mine was completely trustworthy with the thesis I espouse in this post:
http://www.freedominion.ca/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=545175#545175
then I'd vote for him/her.
Otherwise no. All people think in terms of ethnic interests, those who claim they don't are either lying, are in denial, or are Marxists. |
Thank you for letting me speak. I'm going back to my studies and won't come back till after Christmas. Thank you to those who debated with me and will continue to debate with me in the future - a good way to solve problems.
For the record, I'm being ignored by:
gimbol, GratianGasparri, Heartofsong83, Pellaken, and SUZANNE ...
It's unfortunate that, rather than seeing my arguments, they choose to ignore them completely. If I ever hurt their feelings I'm sorry, I sincerely apologize. I don't think ignoring each other will help anyone though. Thank you to my friend list, who, had I not had, I probably wouldn't have continued on with any of this and become a manick depressive.
Have a good season. Best wishes.
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| Posted: 10/ 17/ 05 4:14 am Post subject: |
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| I won't vote for any candidate that doesn't represent what I percieve to be my interests. Attempting to guilt me into voting for someone because of (fill-in-the-blank) only irritates and turns me off to the candidate. I owe no one a scrap of anything for something my family way back in the day may or may not have done. |
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| CanukBlue Joined: 24 May 2005 Total posts: 1132 Location: Vice City(Toronto) Age: 25 Gender: Male
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| Posted: 10/ 17/ 05 7:14 am Post subject: |
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Protectionist, your constant racist links and banners really hurt my eyes, honest to God I have no idea why you are on FD. This is supposed to be a conservative forum, what you want is not a Conservative platform in this country, if it were; it would be political suicide. Do you really think that the CPC would even care for what you claim is going to happen.
Im going to say it plain and simple Protectionist, YOUR A RACIST. Its as simple as that, when you say you would not vote for a non-white candidate even though he was a conservative makes you one. No amount of whitewashing and back up support from the likes of SovietCanukastan is going to help you.
All you think in is colors, you even say that your gonna teach your children the "You can be freinds with them, but dont may them" philosophy . All I can say is good luck with becuase you have the ouside world working against your views.
Stop hiding behind your social engineering and clever wording, just admit the bigot you are and stop wasting our time becuase your embarrising the heck out of the rest of us. |
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| bulldog905 Member
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I agree that Protectionist is strongly opinionated on certain issues. I think he should cool it with the spam(FD is being very tolerant here).
However, the leftist counterparts of the likes of Protectionist are the ones in power. With "employment equity"(anti-white hiring laws), "multiculturalism"(any culture is O.K. except European) , "hate-laws" (censorship of ideas they don't like) and encouraging massive third world immigration and discouraging European immigration, they are the real bigots. Identity politics, like Protectionist advocates for white people, are being carried out for any other ethnic group.
Yes, I know the people passing these policies and running the country, are mostly white. Their guilt, self-hate, and corruption don't make these things right.
They are in power and running things. Protectionist is not. |
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| Posted: 10/ 17/ 05 7:43 am Post subject: |
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CanukBlue: I've been saying that since 'Protectionist' first started posting, (back on the Zundel thread), as 'Concerned Canuck'.
Color is not, and should not be, a factor................behavior is a factor, 'cultural' differences are factors, unwillingness to assimilate into Canadian society by new-arrivals is a factor, as are honesty, decency, industriousness, loyalty, etc...............color is packaging, nothing more, nothing less.
If a criminal is black, throw the $#@& in jail.............if a criminal is white, throw the $#@& in jail..............if a criminal is an illegal immigrant, or not yet a citizen..........boot his/her ass out of the country.
DrWright always talks about special consideration being given to minorities...........if that is happening, it should stop immediately..............jobs/'respect' are things to be 'earned' by the individual, no blanket considerations...........it's way past time to stop the bullshit.
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| CanukBlue Joined: 24 May 2005 Total posts: 1132 Location: Vice City(Toronto) Age: 25 Gender: Male
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| Posted: 10/ 17/ 05 7:46 am Post subject: |
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| bulldog905 wrote: | I agree that Protectionist is strongly opinionated on certain issues. I think he should cool it with the spam(FD is being very tolerant here).
However, the leftist counterparts of the likes of Protectionist are the ones in power. With "employment equity"(anti-white hiring laws), "multiculturalism"(any culture is O.K. except European) , "hate-laws" (censorship of ideas they don't like) and encouraging massive third world immigration and discouraging European immigration, they are the real bigots. Identity politics, like Protectionist advocates for white people, are being carried out for any other ethnic group.
Yes, I know the people passing these policies and running the country, are mostly white. Their guilt, self-hate, and corruption don't make these things right.
They are in power and running things. Protectionist is not. |
Then why is all the hate focused on the immigrants rather than the ones who are behind all this? Doesnt seem very logical does it?
BTW im not advocating banning protectionist or anything but his presence here only hinders the site, its just feul for liberal trolls. |
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| CanukBlue Joined: 24 May 2005 Total posts: 1132 Location: Vice City(Toronto) Age: 25 Gender: Male
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| Nemo2 wrote: | CanukBlue: I've been saying that since 'Protectionist' first started posting, (back on the Zundel thread), as 'Concerned Canuck'.
Color is not, and should not be, a factor................behavior is a factor, 'cultural' differences are factors, unwillingness to assimilate into Canadian society by new-arrivals is a factor, as are honesty, decency, industriousness, loyalty, etc...............color is packaging, nothing more, nothing less.
If a criminal is black, throw the $#@& in jail.............if a criminal is white, throw the $#@& in jail..............if a criminal is an illegal immigrant, or not yet a citizen..........boot his/her ass out of the country.
DrWright always talks about special consideration being given to minorities...........if that is happening, it should stop immediately..............jobs/'respect' are things to be 'earned' by the individual, no blanket considerations...........it's way past time to stop the bullshit. |
Once again Nemo you hit the nail right on the head.  |
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