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| Protectionist wrote: | Here's a question for carver: are you Middle Eastern? Jewish or Islamic? Or are you White and of Christian heritage? Do you know that our ethnic group will be a minority in Canada and the US by mid century... in Europe by the end of the century?
I think carver's initial feelings expressed in the title of this thread are quite normal and acceptable as a European Canadian. Constantly in the news we're bombarded with reports on ethnic conflict happening in the Middle East, ethnic conflict in Africa, ethnic conflict in Korea, Taiwan, Japan vs China... and how it's our problem... meanwhile, our ethnic group is going extinct. |
Nope im black, but I am a christian though. .. half white to actually my mother is from switzerland but hrmm yeah i have black skin hehe 
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Protectionist
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| Posted: 09/ 23/ 05 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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| carver wrote: | | Protectionist wrote: | Here's a question for carver: are you Middle Eastern? Jewish or Islamic? Or are you White and of Christian heritage? Do you know that our ethnic group will be a minority in Canada and the US by mid century... in Europe by the end of the century?
I think carver's initial feelings expressed in the title of this thread are quite normal and acceptable as a European Canadian. Constantly in the news we're bombarded with reports on ethnic conflict happening in the Middle East, ethnic conflict in Africa, ethnic conflict in Korea, Taiwan, Japan vs China... and how it's our problem... meanwhile, our ethnic group is going extinct. |
Nope im black, but I am a christian though. |
How do you feel about the amount of money and media attention in North America that's focussed on the Middle East versus the amount that's focussed on Africa?
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hdm
Joined: 18 Apr 2004 Total posts: 2881 Location: East Coast USA Gender: Unknown
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| Posted: 09/ 23/ 05 5:06 pm Post subject: Broad Brushes and Cooked Numbers |
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re: Protectionist - 23Sep05 4:55 pm
| Protectionist wrote: | | Well, as Dr Steinlight would say |
Who is Dr. Steinlight, is he related to Dr. Strangelove?
| Protectionist wrote: | | "with these demographic changes in mind, how long do we expect 80% of the United States foreign aid budget going to Israel." |
The numbers are all wrong. Annual aid to Israel doesn't even come close to 80% unless you skew the numbers to make it look that way.
| Protectionist wrote: | | I doubt African American sympathy towards Middle Eastern affairs will ever exist. |
Don't know about that... but I do know that Pat Buchanan got less than 1% of the Black vote in 2000.
| Protectionist wrote: | | 80% of US foreign aid going to Israel... approx 1 million Africans starved to death last year. |
Please furnish sources to support the 80% / 1 million numbers.
rgds, hdm
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Maikeru
Joined: 05 Nov 2004 Total posts: 4374 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Gender: Male
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| Posted: 09/ 23/ 05 5:10 pm Post subject: Re: Research |
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| carver wrote: |
Alright that I did not know however those are my views on this conflict.. I mean does anyone know how long this conflict has been going on? .. I was born in 1981 so Im guessin it was going on before I was even born.
Also if palestine does not exist .. how come it has a flag? and yeah I probably do need to do some more research on the topic itself but I am sick of seeing it seriously I can remember this since I was 5 .. day after day death after death. it's depressing. |
carver, I'll accept that you are not simply trying to stir livers by introducing the view that you're sick and tired of the ongoing conflict in the Middle East.
It is an extremely complex subject, and one fraught with misunderstanding due there being no way the casual observer could readily understand the issues involved.
More importantly, and presuming you were born and raised in Canada, and also in keeping with your belief that 'There are few things more dishonorable than misleading the young.', it is a measure of the failure of Canada's education system that you have gone through the regular course of education without some understanding the basics of conflict which afflict humanity, particularly in the 20th Century - the age of our immediate forebears.
There was a lively debate here on FreeDominion, started by LondonLady back in June entitled 'When Ethnic Cleansing is OK' that you should read in it's entirety (198 posts to the thread) which includes maps, and many a link to data pertinent to the subject of the Arab-Israeli conflict.
You will see that many posters here have passioned opinions on the matter, which is appropriate in that religious conflict, which is at the root of the matter, is essentially unimaginable for those raised in the socialist experiment begun by Pierre Trudeau.
Unless people of your generation somehow regain a moral compass without reliance on religious guidance, or an awareness of the beliefs and achievements of Canadians before that experiment was begun - due idolatry of a figurehead who essentially dismissed all that came before - the result will be the breakup of Canada, the most promising country in the world's history.
The thread 'When Ethnic Cleansing is OK' is located in the 'International items affecting Canada' forum.
Click on 'search' above, enter When Ethnic Cleansing is OK in the 'search for any terms or use query as entered' box, go to the forum box and scroll to International items affecting Canada , display results as Topics, hit your return key, and a list will appear.
You'll find it about 3/4 of the way down the list. Note also while you're there the many other threads which pop up from time to time on Middle East issues.
Cheers...maikeru
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Protectionist
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| Posted: 09/ 23/ 05 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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| carver wrote: | | half white to actually my mother is from switzerland but hrmm yeah i have black skin hehe Razz |
The White ethnic group is a recessive (phenotypically) ethnic group in comparison to the Black, Brown Caucassion, and Oriental ethnic groups. Within a relatively short period of time in the future, we'll cease to exist.
This is why I often write on ethnic related topics - my ethnic group will permanently disappear soon.
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Roy Wilson
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| Posted: 09/ 23/ 05 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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[quote]Protectionist wrote:
80% of US foreign aid going to Israel... approx 1 million Africans starved to death last year. | Quote: |
Ok and your point is what? |
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hdm
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| Posted: 09/ 23/ 05 5:17 pm Post subject: Look out... |
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re: carver - 23Sep05 4:55 pm
| carver wrote: | | Nope im black, but I am a christian though. .. half white to actually my mother is from switzerland but hrmm yeah i have black skin hehe |
Beware of those who tailor their message to ones race, carver.
rgds, hdm
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hdm
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| Posted: 09/ 23/ 05 5:20 pm Post subject: Ventured Guess |
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re: Roy Wilson - 23Sep05 5:16 pm
| Roy Wilson wrote: | | Quote: | Protectionist wrote:
80% of US foreign aid going to Israel... approx 1 million Africans starved to death last year. |
Ok and your point is what? |
That he doesn't know what he's talking about?
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Maikeru
Joined: 05 Nov 2004 Total posts: 4374 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Gender: Male
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| Posted: 09/ 23/ 05 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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The White ethnic group is a recessive (phenotypically) ethnic group in comparison to the Black, Brown Caucassion, and Oriental ethnic groups. Within a relatively short period of time in the future, we'll cease to exist.
This is why I often write on ethnic related topics - my ethnic group will permanently disappear soon. |
Think positively Protectionist. As the stock of white folks slowly diminishes, the value of those remaining goes up. That's simple supply & demand economics.
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Protectionist
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| Posted: 09/ 23/ 05 5:30 pm Post subject: Re: Broad Brushes and Cooked Numbers |
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| hdm wrote: | | Protectionist wrote: | | 80% of US foreign aid going to Israel... approx 1 million Africans starved to death last year. |
Please furnish sources to support the 80% / 1 million numbers.
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1 million figure:
http://www.unmillenniumproject.org/facts/
| Quote: | Health
* Every year six million children die from malnutrition before their fifth birthday.
(hdm, you can bet that at least 1/6 of these are in Africa... and to note, the figure doesn't include people over the age of 5)
* More than 50 percent of Africans suffer from water-related diseases such as cholera and infant diarrhea.
* Everyday HIV/AIDS kills 6,000 people and another 8,200 people are infected with this deadly virus.
* Every 30 seconds an African child dies of malaria-more than one million child deaths a year.
* Each year, approximately 300 to 500 million people are infected with malaria. Approximately three million people die as a result.
* TB is the leading AIDS-related killer and in some parts of Africa, 75 percent of people with HIV also have TB.
Hunger
* More than 800 million people go to bed hungry every day...300 million are children.
* Of these 300 million children, only eight percent are victims of famine or other emergency situations. More than 90 percent are suffering long-term malnourishment and micronutrient deficiency.
* Every 3.6 seconds another person dies of starvation and the large majority are children under the age of 5.
Water
* More than 2.6 billion people-over 40 per cent of the world's population-do not have basic sanitation, and more than one billion people still use unsafe sources of drinking water.
* Four out of every ten people in the world don't have access even to a simple latrine.
* Five million people, mostly children, die each year from water-borne diseases.
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80% figure:
| Quote: | October 2001
The Jewish Stake in America's Changing Demography
By Dr Stephen Steinlight
http://www.cis.org/articles/2001/back1301.html
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Preface: Challenging A Crumbling Consensus
This piece is the fruit of an authentic and deeply felt conversion experience, but much as one hankers to grab the reader's attention with a dramatic retelling of a great and sudden epiphany, it didn't happen that way. My change of heart, of thought, came gradually, even reluctantly.
With the changes in view, how long do we actually believe that nearly 80 percent of the entire foreign aid budget of the United States will go to Israel? |
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Roy Wilson
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| Posted: 09/ 23/ 05 5:33 pm Post subject: Re: Ventured Guess |
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| hdm wrote: | re: Roy Wilson - 23Sep05 5:16 pm
| Roy Wilson wrote: | | Quote: | Protectionist wrote:
80% of US foreign aid going to Israel... approx 1 million Africans starved to death last year. |
Ok and your point is what? |
That he doesn't know what he's talking about? |
Well I cant argue against that. 
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Protectionist
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| Posted: 09/ 23/ 05 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Maikeru wrote: | | Protectionist wrote: |
The White ethnic group is a recessive (phenotypically) ethnic group in comparison to the Black, Brown Caucassion, and Oriental ethnic groups. Within a relatively short period of time in the future, we'll cease to exist.
This is why I often write on ethnic related topics - my ethnic group will permanently disappear soon. |
Think positively Protectionist. As the stock of white folks slowly diminishes, the value of those remaining goes up. That's simple supply & demand economics. |
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| Posted: 09/ 23/ 05 5:38 pm Post subject: Re: Broad Brushes and Cooked Numbers |
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| hdm wrote: | re: Protectionist - 23Sep05 4:55 pm
| Protectionist wrote: | | Well, as Dr Steinlight would say |
Who is Dr. Steinlight, is he related to Dr. Strangelove?
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Half-Brother to Dr Nightlight.............who's a bit of a dim bulb.
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Protectionist
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| Posted: 09/ 23/ 05 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Protectionist wrote: | | Maikeru wrote: | | Protectionist wrote: |
The White ethnic group is a recessive (phenotypically) ethnic group in comparison to the Black, Brown Caucassion, and Oriental ethnic groups. Within a relatively short period of time in the future, we'll cease to exist.
This is why I often write on ethnic related topics - my ethnic group will permanently disappear soon. |
Think positively Protectionist. As the stock of white folks slowly diminishes, the value of those remaining goes up. That's simple supply & demand economics. |
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You ever notice how most the ruling Arab nation elite look White , Mexico and a lot of South America are similar that way ... Steve Sailer from vdare sometimes writes about that 'perplexing' phenomenon.
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| Posted: 09/ 23/ 05 5:45 pm Post subject: Re: Broad Brushes and Cooked Numbers |
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| Nemo2 wrote: | | hdm wrote: | re: Protectionist - 23Sep05 4:55 pm
| Protectionist wrote: | | Well, as Dr Steinlight would say |
Who is Dr. Steinlight, is he related to Dr. Strangelove?
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Half-Brother to Dr Nightlight.............who's a bit of a dim bulb. |
| Quote: | | Dr. Stephen Steinlight was for more than five years Director of National Affairs (domestic policy) at the American Jewish Committee. For the past two and a half years he has been a Senior Fellow at AJC. He is co-editor of the forthcoming Fractious Nation: Race, Class and Culture in America at the End of the Twentieth Century (UC-Berkeley Press), and he has recently been appointed editor of South Asia: In Review. |
Here's Dr Kevin Macdonal's follow-up article to Dr. Steinlight's "The Jewish Stake in America's Changing Demography"
http://www.vdare.com/misc/macdonald_1924_immigration.htm
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