Partial birth abortion ban a step closer to CPC policy

[khori_wan_kenobi]

In the SCC decision that struck down our abortion laws the court mentioned that reasonable abortion restrictions would be allowable but the laws in place at the time weren't.

[GOTV STUPID]

Why don't you explain how the PBA motion was presented by only 1 riding to the Eastern Ontario Joint Policy Meeting yet it was ACCEPTED OVERWHELMINGLY by the vast majority of members of 8-10 constituency assocations? Would you please explain that to me? Thanks. Seems to me that merely not having multiple resolutions on the same question proves diddly squat about its overall acceptability.

I didn't make the rules for the policy amendments and how they were weighted. I had no say in this. I was an organizer for the Joint Policy Meeting for 4 ridings in Essex, and I can tell you that I was not pleased with the layout and format that we had to follow.

And, most of the Policy meetings that I have heard of in Ontario did not follow the rules that were laid out.

Each constituency association gets 2 amendments. Who made the rules at your meeting to only allow 'social issues' to get a 1 amendment? That is the person you should go after, because they are the ones who 'stacked' your meeting. THEY BROKE THE RULES AND MARGINALIZED YOU

Some advice for you for next time:

READ THE RULES AND ORGANIZE ACCORDINGLY

Abortion did not even come up at our policy meeting. We had 10 tables of at least 6 peolple and all were allowed ot bring forward any amendements or new policy recommendations.

That's fine. If you want to leave a little issue like abortion out of the decision making process, that's the call of the illuminati of the Party. They can have fun on the opposition benches for the next fifty years.

Illuminati? Are you nuts? This is why people are afraid of the CPC.

Sorry, but this issue is not going away - ever. The media won't let it go away unless the Party goes FURTHER left than the Liberals on this issue. This is the political reality YOU need to face.

I am sure they will forget about abortion once you start talking about the Illuminati

If we can expect the bullkaka politics that I experienced during this past regional policy meeting in regards to so-con issues, I'm afraid this Party is finished. We want a SEAT at the table, not a stool.

The get organized. Sell memberships. GOTV STUPID. <----(get your vote out)

It seems to me that the left in this party is very good at talking but not so good at understanding what "negotiating" means, especially in relation to abortion.

I do not negotiate with people who insult me.

The sooner it starts to come to grips with the reality of the political question of abortion and the constitutive element of it within the right wing in western democracies, THEN and ONLY THEN does it have a chance at forming a government. But until then, I'm afraid it's more self delusion for the right wing in this country.

OK, good for you.

Sorry, if I've offended you, but from what I've just seen of "Red Tories" in action, they're more yellow than anything else.

I dont believe that you care whether or not you have offended me.

When your side wants to get serious about forming an actual COALITION with us, instead of treating us like Uncle Tom, then some action and real unity can happen. Until then, it's the same old crap and the same old smell. Nothing changes.

Coalition? You are willing to form a coalition with the illuminati? I am not willing to form a coalition with you Drone. You are a political timebomb.

Until the reds want to get serious about marriage, baby sacrifice to Moloch, and the rest of these inconsequential issues which form the bedrock of society, then this Party is not unified and not going to get elected

So just curious, SSM and PBA? Are those the only 2 issues for you? Or is it once you get PBA then you will go after abortion completely?

You know I read an email from a while back from someone who often spoke about the illuminati, and in this email that he sent out to approx. 20 people he talked about erradicating Muslim's from North America.

Though I am against SSM and PBA, I feel like, that if I give you an inch you will want to take a mile.

[DrWright]

I can't see Harper campaigning on abortion....

However, I can see Harper campaigning on referring the issue of abortion to the Supreme Court to determine which restrictions would be allowable under the charter.

Would you guys approve of such a proposal?

Well it it's party policy how can he not campaign for it?

I think deliberately allowing it to go to the supreme court would be terrible they have weilded far too much power over the last couple of decades.

[Bruce-Grey-OS Reformer]

Read your constitution, Harper is not BOUND by what the membership wants for policy its only a guide. Do you people not read history? Back in 1991 the PC's had a policy convention which saw alot of resolutions pass that looked like they were taken right out of the Reform Blue book, did we all of a sudden just shut down the Reform party because the Tories saw the light? No because the leadership in a traditional party like the Tories is not BOUND by its constitution to advance the policies of its members.This begs the question, why would anyone want to belong to a party that doesn't care what its members think? The answer is that the Tories just like the Liberals are a party of power and patronage period. They do not care about policy these people are looking at a feed at the trough. Harpers party is the TORY PARTY and will never support constructive change namely getting rid of wasteful patronage.

[DrWright]

Read your constitution, Harper is not BOUND by what the membership wants for policy its only a guide. Do you people not read history? Back in 1991 the PC's had a policy convention which saw alot of resolutions pass that looked like they were taken right out of the Reform Blue book, did we all of a sudden just shut down the Reform party because the Tories saw the light? No because the leadership in a traditional party like the Tories is not BOUND by its constitution to advance the policies of its members.This begs the question, why would anyone want to belong to a party that doesn't care what its members think? The answer is that the Tories just like the Liberals are a party of power and patronage period. They do not care about policy these people are looking at a feed at the trough. Harpers party is the TORY PARTY and will never support constructive change namely getting rid of wasteful patronage.

I HOPE you are wrong and that he is better than Joe Clark.

I hope we don't have to setup REFORM MKII. Curiously my membership in the c-party expires at the end of march.

[A Lee Project]

I know I was happy to see the vote go thru when I was sitting beside connie at Regional!

WAY TO GO TEAM