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Postby springer » 08/ 27/ 04 12:24 am

The following is a tutorial of sorts. If you're not comfortable with toying with software and downloads, perhaps best not to indulge this...or better yet, let someone who is reasonably computer literate to take you through this.

I put this together for a couple of relatives, but thought maybe I'd post here for my buds because I don’t want to see anyone get ambushed...like I have a couple of times. So here’s some tips on safe computer use. Not meant to scare anyone, but definitely meant to impress that this stuff should not be taken lightly.

After my computer recently got invaded by spyware, I went to work and dug into available means to prevent…as much as possible…any more of this crap from happening to me. It was very productive and informative.

Bottom line: Particularly if you use your computer for personal stuff like on-line banking or purchases with Visa, etc., it’s imperative that you protect yourself. Spyware and Trojans can be planted in your system without you realizing it just from visiting websites. Some of these little programs can, because they know exactly where to look for it stored on your harddrive, hunt down vital and personal information and relay it back to presumably not so well intentioned people…all the way over in places like Russia and China. No kidding! And then one day, f'rinstance and God forbid, some charges show up on your Visa that you can’t explain.

Or your computer can be “Highjacked”, literally taken over by a covert user anywhere on the planet.

Or most commonly, your computer all of a sudden starts getting re-directed to websites you otherwise wouldn’t be interested in…especially porn related ones (Porn sites are notorious for dumping vicious stuff onto your computer!!! Not that I suspect anyone here indulges such...but make sure you know where others...particularly teenagers, eh...might be venturing with YOUR computer! SERIOUSLY!)

I’ve beefed my system up with a few free software programs that go a very long way to preventing what can turn into considerable grief. Once some of these bugs get into your computer, they can be a real bitch to get rid of…believe me!!!!

The links take you to where you can download these programs directly. They’re very easy to use, take up little space, and most of all, they work!!!

Also, a couple of maintenance tips too often overlooked or not generally even known by way too many users.

1) Norton and most other Antivirus and/or Firewall software does NOT protect against spyware. Nevertheless, I cannot emphasize enough the importance of having both an Antivirus as well as a Firewall on your computer. My Norton firewall blocks on average 10 to 30 intrusion attempts per day! Worse, without a firewall, I wouldn’t even know that it was happening, and my computer would be full of Trojans and malicious programs being monitored by only God knows who. McAfee is also a good product. Once installed, make certain to keep them updated!

2) Make absolutely certain that your keeping your Windows software up to date through “Windows Update”, particularly with regard to “Critical Updates”. All kinds of vulnerabilities are being found in Windows software…including XP…by hackers lately. MicroSoft regularly brings out patches to plug these holes, and usually you will be notified automatically. Nevertheless, check in regularly to make sure. (Click your “Start” button, bottom LHS corner, and on the popup menu you will find a direct link to Windows Update.)

3) Here’s a setting change that will block a lot of junk from being put on your computer automatically, whether or not you want or need it…which you inevitably don’t!

There are two types of “cookies” at play. Cookies are placed by the websites you visit to enable you to use their websites. (F'rinstance, FreeDominion identifies you via a cookie) It’s an identification method. Fair enough. These are called “First Party Cookies”, or “Sessional Cookies”. However, there is another type called “Third Party Cookies”. These generally are placed by advertisers at these sites on your computer as well. (I don't believe FreeDominion permits this.) As a rule, you do NOT want these, primarily because a great many of them are “tracking cookies”…small software programs that keep track of the sites you visit, products you look at or inquire about, and then relay this information back to their source...potentially anywhere in the world. Frankly, you’re being tracked…for one reason or another, not necessarily harmlessly.

So, to prevent this outright, you can do this…assuming you are using MicroSoft Windows, and their Internet Explorer program...

Click on that “Start” button, bottom LHS of your screen...

Click on “Settings” in the popup menu…

Click on “Control Panel”…

Click on “Internet Options”…

Click on the “Privacy” tab at the top of the panel…

Click on “Advanced”…

Click on “Override automatic cookie handling” so that there’s a check mark in the box beside it…

Under “First Party Cookies”, “Accept" should already be checked off.

Under “Third Party Cookies”, check off “Block”.

And check off “Always allow sessional cookies”. (Sessional cookies may be used in interactive sites like forums, etc. and are generally considered to be safe…generally.)

Then click “Okay” to set the changes. This overrides the "Default" settings, which you won't go back to.

This will block Third Party Cookies from being planted on your computer for the benefit of advertisers, not yours.

I’ve noticed that the MSN Explorer browser, upon opening, (I use Yahoo) detects this, and prompts you to reset this to allow Third Party Cookies. Always answer “NO”…and if it provides the option of “don’t ask this question again”, check this off so it will not bug you any more about this. IMHO, they’re pandering to commercial users of Windows who infest your computer with their advertising crap.

4) This is a link to what is considered the premier spyware detection software, called "Ad-Aware" from Lavasoft over in Scandanavia. It's FREE. Alert here, for those who already run this, there is a new and updated version now out, called Ad-Aware SE, verion 1.03, which this link goes to. I believe it will overwrite your older version, or you may want to uninstall the older version first, so as not to leave useless old stuff on computer.

http://www.download.com/3000-2144-10045 ... tag=button

It's very straight forward to use, there is a "Help" menu to guide you. Its default settings should suffice.

It will feret out spyware and trojans, and prompt you to quarantine or delete them...which you obviously should.

I had stupidly downloaded an email program called "Hotbar" last year, dresses up your emails real pretty. It ALSO loads your computer with spyware that eventually bogs it down, and can even render it useless, because there gets to be so many running processes going on in the background that you don't know about. Ad-Aware will hunt this crap program down and essentially eliminate it.

My sister's computer, because of "Hotbar", was really starting to bog down. Ad-Aware, on her first scan, removed...no kidding...374 separate items infecting her computer!!!

Lesson: Avoid these sorts of "offers" that show up in your emails or similar spams. They're often traps.

5) This is a link to a program called “Spybot Search and Destroy”, which is similar to Ad-Aware in purpose. It’s a sort of back up, and often may find stuff that Ad-Aware doesn’t. Easy to use, just do the obvious. Make sure to check for updates regularly. Stick to the "Default" settings it sets up with.

http://www.download.com/Spybot-Search-D ... l?tag=list

Use its default settings. Fix whatever it finds. Note: If it finds something called “DSO Exploit”, usually five of them, ignore this one. If you’ve kept up your Windows Updates, the vulnerability this refers to has been patched.

This is the second most highly rated spyware program out there, and it’s free!!!

There’s a tutorial included, best to go through it. In case…but not at all likely…something goes wrong, it creates backups of the stuff it deletes to undo anything.

5) These next two programs block crap from even getting into your computer, and are very highly rated…and also FREE!!!!

The first one is “Spyware Blaster”.

http://www.download.com/SpywareBlaster/ ... ag=lst-0-3

Once downloaded, again check for updates regularly. Be sure to click, on the Status panel, under Quick Tasks, “Enable all protection”. This program doesn’t scan your computer like Ad-Aware, it just blocks stuff.

The second program, from the same company, is called “Spyware Guard”, and compliments the blaster program.

http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/sgdownload.html

Click on “Download Spyware Guard 2.2 full setup (not the Major Geeks one, which will work fine, but an extra step to go through).

Again, once installed, check for updates. Under “Options”, make sure all three are check off.

This one doesn’t scan your computer, either, but acts like a firewall. If it detects incoming spyware from a website, a popup screen will appear asking if you want to accept it…which you don’t.

6) Lastly, be sure to clean your “Temporary Internet Files” out regularly, as well as the “Cookies” file. These can pile up literally tens of thousands of files, and take up lots of space on computer, as well as greatly slow down your antivirus and spyware scans, which will check through each and every one of them if they’re there. If you’re not sure how…

Right click on your Internet Explorer launch icon on your desktop.

Click “Properties”…

Click “Delete files”…

Click “Delete all offline content”…

After this is done…

Click “Delete cookies”.

And you’re done.

7) Be sure to “Defrag” your computer at least once a month. Clean up everything else first, no point re-organizing thousands of temporary internet files. This will greatly enhance computer performance. I always, in this order, unplug my modem first and then disable my firewall, before doing this as the firewall…a constantly running application…may possibly interfere with defragging. When done, be sure to re-enable your firewall!!! I forgot to do this only once, and 45 minutes later, I already had a Trojan placed into my computer!!! I am not kidding!!!

And there you have it.

Since I’ve done this, my Ad-Aware and Spybot searches…about 30 of them so far…have turned up one single item of minor threat…instead of the usual 6 to 10 in each scan.

What’s interesting is that I’ve found that very few computer users are aware of any of this stuff…which is what prompted me to put this together for you.

Hope it’s helpful, and saves you some grief.

And last word of advice, when you’re tempted to download something such as a game, other than a trusted site like Yahoo or MSN, if in doubt, don’t!!!! A lot of that stuff is like that Hotbar program for emails, full of spyware and, too often, just about impossible to get rid of without the help of some expert advice. What happens is that you think you’ve gotten rid of them, but when you restart your computer they re-install themselves and you’re back to square one. Now getting rid of them involves cleaning out registries and hunting down program files…which is very tricky stuff, believe me.

If, by chance, your computer does get bushwhacked...such as getting re-directed to sites you don't want to visit, or program icons showing up on your desktop that you didn't install, or it's so bogged down and clunky for some reason...you, or someone computer capable you know, can go this website, a forum of the same format as FD...

http://www.spywarewarrior.com/index.php

And these very good souls of considerable expertise...and totally voluntarily...will help you get through the process of cleaning up your mess. It can get a bit technical at this point, so it's best that someone who understands computers a tad handles it...particularly when dealing with a program for clearing out such crap, called "HiJack This". Not for rookies!

Hope this all is of use and help...and maybe prevents a few unfortunate experiences.

PS: The one that recently got me was called "Lycos SideSearch". An icon showed up on my desktop, framed picture of a dogs head. Also, a second clock showed up the bottom bar, with an icon of a magnifying glass beside it. I have no idea where it came from, but it's definitely SPYWARE. If you look in your Control Panel Settings, Add/Remove Programs, you would find a program called "Qutrit Toolbar" installed. It won't uninstall, just so know. It will keep coming back. Between Ad-Aware and SpyBot S&D, should get rid of it all by now...it was a tad trickier for me a month ago.

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Postby NorthOf45 » 08/ 27/ 04 10:58 am

I have two additional suggestions:

- Personal Firewall: I use ZoneAlarm ... there is a free version for download and it has worked well with me.

2. File and Print Sharing ... If your computer is not hooked up to a network, shut this service down. Here's a link for more details ...

Link - http://www.nwinternet.com/~pchelp/security/issues/sharing.htm
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Postby tolomac » 08/ 27/ 04 11:10 am

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Use Mozilla - tabbed browsing, pop-up blocker, no viruses

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Postby solomon » 08/ 27/ 04 12:09 pm

Springer, how does Zone Alarm fit into the equation? Could it replace or supplement any of the firewalls you mention?

I have "Pro" and it works quite well, though a little hard to figure out at times.

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Postby t_link » 08/ 27/ 04 1:53 pm

This it OT but does anybody know how to fix the problem when you start up your computer everything can work, except it takes a little while before I am allowed to use my tool bar.
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Postby springer » 08/ 27/ 04 9:19 pm

Sol...

Apparently using two firewall programs can lead to problems as both attempt to use the same resourses. Zone Alarm is supposed to be pretty good.

A lot of users use a router, which provides a hardware firewall, in addition to their software version. (CNET is a good place to get ratings on both software and hardware.)

People using cable should know that they are on a network with up to hundreds of others. Because of this, it can be remarkably easy for someone within the network to hack into another computer in the network. This makes it all the more important to use some sort of firewall. (I was told by someone who works for a cable company that everyone he knows within the company uses a router.)

That may be good advice regarding disabling the network "file and print sharing" service, it provides a vulnerability to hackers.

I also shut down my "messanger" service that comes built into Windows, for the same reason. Besides, Yahoo and MSN both provide messanger capability independant of this service.

t-link...

Depending on the version you're running, try doing either a scan-disk to repair errors, or for later versions: double click on "my computer" icon, right click on drive c, click on "tools" tab at top of panel, then click on the check for errors. Click both options for scan. You may have to reboot in order to start the scan.

If this doesn't help, clean up temp internet files and cookies, and then defrag. If your drive is really fragmented badly, this can really slow down performance.

Lastly, worse case scenario, your computer may be infected; highjacking software often involves the toolbar. Download and run the Ad-Aware program, be sure to check for updates on definitions first. Good idea also to download the Spybot S&D program and run as well.

Note that a lot of spyware junk in your computer can really badly bog down its performance...if not screw it up totally. Running those two anti-spyware programs can really help a lot if this is the case.

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Postby rwebb » 08/ 27/ 04 10:19 pm

My two cents' worth:

1) Firewalls -- I recently read an article that claimed that in unprotected computer placed on the Internet will last an average of sixteen minutes before being infected with something. I question some of the assumptions that went into that estimate, but it certainly drives the point home. You definitely need a firewall, especially if you have a broadband (always on) connection.

2) Windows Update -- until a couple of weeks ago I would have agreed, just apply any patches that Microsoft recommends. Windows XP Service Pack 2, which MS just started pushing out on Windows Update, is an exception. I've heard too many reports of it being incompatible even with Microsoft's own applications! My company has prohibited SP2 being installed on any of our machines -- there is some suspicion that it could cause certain virus software to fail to load.

3) Cookies -- frankly, I've never seen what the fuss is about. If a third-party site is going to display an ad on my computer, I'd just as soon have a relevant ad that I might be interested in. (But who cares, I never read the ads anyway.)

4,5) I use SpyBot on my clients' computers when I suspect spyware, but I don't bother with it on my own machine. A little common sense and prudence is all you need. DON'T install software if you don't know or trust the source, no matter what outlandish claims or warnings they make.

6) Temp files, temporary Internet files -- I rarely think to clean them out of my own computer, and I've rarely seen them make a practical difference in performance or cause any system problems. I know it's the first thing that lots of people, including lots of professional computer geeks, want to do when they troubleshoot. Go ahead if you want; I'm just a skeptic.

7) Defragmenting -- if you're experiencing any kind of system problems, the LAST thing you want to do is defrag! Defragmentation does NOTHING to cure system problems, and is a risky procedure that should only be performed on a computer that you're confident is working fine. I'm also a skeptic about the supposed benefits of defragging -- again, I've never seen a significant performance gain in a real-world situation. (And yes, I used to perform them more or less routinely on client machines.) Besides which, modern NTFS file systems are designed to minimize fragmentation, so it's even less of an issue than it was with the older FAT file systems.
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Postby springer » 08/ 27/ 04 11:32 pm

I believe that about trojans and lack of a firewall. As I noted, I forgot just one time to turn my firewall back on...only 45 minutes...and I picked up a bug.

In 10 months, my Norton 2003 Pro. has nailed, mostly in emails, but some also inside my computer, 193 viruses and trojans.

I took over a computer at work earlier this year; it was really clunky and slow. Windows 98. Ran a virus scan...that seemed to take forever. I noticed that, upon getting to the temporary internet files, it scanned over 30,000 of these flies...before I shut it down in disgust. Was taking forever.

These files, if neglected can really, really pile up, taking up lots of space, and making an ordeal out of routine scans. Bottom line, they're clutter.

When I picked up that Lycos SideSearch bug, Ad-Aware 6.181 got rid of most of it, about 55 items. Spybot picked up another dozen related items. But the Qutrit Toolbar persisted. Going through reviews on CNET of spyware, I finally downloaded a free trial version of Spyware Doctor, which found one more item...and that did the trick, the icons on the lower toolbar vanished. I then manually searched through files via the Windows Explorer tool, and located a "Qutrit" folder, which I also deleted.

I then ran a "Highjack This" log on SpywareWarrior forum, and was advised that my system was clean.

I, personally, have never run into a problem with defragging. I run Win2k Pro. I don't use it solve problems, but only to maintain performance.

Third Party cookie placement, as I understand it, is one of the primary means of planting spyware, some of it very nasty and difficult to get rid of. Permitting these cookies, IMHO, serves no one but the other guy.

Blocking them has not caused me one single moment of grief or inconvenience...but I suspect may save me considerable of both in the future.

Anyhoo, I'm certainly no expert at this stuff. These tips are very basic, amassed after many hours of research...and a number more of dealing with the results of my own neglect and/or naivite.

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Postby Splendor Sine Occasu » 08/ 27/ 04 11:52 pm

Once I de-fragged and my computer completely shut down. I had to re-boot and re-install everything from scratch! :shock:
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Postby A Ziggen » 08/ 28/ 04 12:50 am

rwebb wrote:My two cents' worth:

1) Firewalls -- I recently read an article that claimed that in unprotected computer placed on the Internet will last an average of sixteen minutes before being infected with something. I question some of the assumptions that went into that estimate, but it certainly drives the point home. You definitely need a firewall, especially if you have a broadband (always on) connection.


I have done a clean install...connected my LAN before installing my anti-virus/firewall...and had a virus in less than 30 seconds. However my XP version was bought at the XP release and contains none of the security updates.

Since this experience I ALWAYS install XP with LAN unplugged. Install Norton IS2004. Connect LAN and update Norton. Then update windows.

In fact I am doing it tonight since I upgraded my mainboard and my old system wouldn't boot afterwards.

BTW...for anyone in Edmonton looking for hardware upgrades check out the BCom Anniversary sale (ends Saturday). I picked up a Asus P4800C-E Deluxe MB, a P4 3.2C CPU and a gig of DDR400 for a about $850...sure it's not socket 775 prescott stuff but I'm not about to abandon a kick ass AGP video card for PCI express quite yet.
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Postby springer » 08/ 28/ 04 12:32 pm

One other tip that comes to mind...

When exploring software downloads on the net to deal with spyware, viruses, and trojans, a word of caution:

There are, in fact, a considerable number of scams of sorts being run, intent on getting you to part with some dough. As well, some of these anti-spyware offers are, in fact, spiked with their own spyware.

This link to spywarewarrior.com provides a listing of what is legit and useful, and what is not. Check it out here first.

http://www.spywarewarrior.com/rogue_anti-spyware.htm

And also...

http://www.spywarewarrior.com/viewforum ... f43bc337d8

Some very legit sites will offer you a free scan of your harddrive to detect this stuff, and even remove it for you.

However, a caution here: Some will offer the scan, find something, and then ask you to buy their product in order to get rid of it. Worse case, they didn't really find anything...if you get my drift.

A lot of "free trial" software downloads will only perform a fraction of the operations they offer. To get the rest, you have to buck up.

Spyware Warrior is a very good place to research this stuff, and sort out the good from the bad...before you spend your jake, and perhaps before you get hooked.

And a good rule of thumb, when considering downloading anything, is this: If in doubt, DON'T!

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Postby WestViking » 08/ 28/ 04 1:15 pm

Springer has agreed o allow us to move this thread to FD EXclusive, so that members with computer grief can find it quickly when needed.

Computer maintenance is a must for anyone using the Internet frequently and who uses program downloads and tests out new browsers, mail programs and other interesting stuff.

I have been a Norton fan since 1984 - when Norton introduced "desktop" which turned Windows 3.1 into something very close to WIn 95 which Microsoft introduced later.

I currently have upgraded to Norton Internet Pro 2004 and Norton Systemworks Pro 2004 and find both invaluable for firewall protection, stopping viruses cold and handling e-mail spam.

Internet pro includes a system for blocking access to a number of selectable sites with content not fit for children and childish minds. It also adds a toolbar to Ourlook that makes handling spam a dream. As you identify spammers, you can add the senders to a prohibited list and Norton puts all messages from those sources into a separate mail folder you can review prior to deleting.

Norton Systemworks is a real asset in repairing system faults (broken links, registrry problems, and other things most of us without a deep knowledge of computers would find very difficult).

Norton Internet Pro and Systemworks Pro can be set to update automatically and ensure your virus updates are always up-to-date.

I have my computer set to run the Norton Anti-virus complete system sacan and the Systemworks "One button Checkup" weekly to pick up any faults that may have developed since the last checkup. One Button checkup scans for registry problems, program integrety, shrtcuts and cleans up outdated web pages.

I have both Adaware and Spybot, but was not happy with the performance of the two and invested $49 USD in a commercial product called Spykiler. It does a very thourough job of removing adware and spyware - so thourough that site cookies such as the automated Free Dominion log-on go too, which is a bit of a pain until you learn to identify the log-in cookies you want to keep and exclude them from the Spykiller scan.

Finally, nothing beats taking a little time to read program tutorials and on-line help available with most programs today. Going through the tutorials amd making sure the programs you load are properly set up and working the way you want them to can save a lot of grief.

Installing Norton or Spykiller without going through the tutorial and knowing exactly what these programs will (and will not) do means you will not get the full benefit of what you paid for.
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Postby springer » 08/ 28/ 04 2:28 pm

Regarding other users of your computer...

F'rinstance, while you're upstairs watching your favorite soap opera, or swearing at the latest antics of a Liberal being reported on the news...

Junior is downstairs, visually satiating some of his/her fantasies on the Internet.

Commonly, Junior isn't sharp enough to erase his tracks. If you're curious about his/her travels, click on the "History" button up top on your toolbar. This will provide you up to 7 days, or more, worth of links to sites visited by your computer. (Be mentally and emotionally prepared for what you might find here. Could be a shocker. :shock: Also might tip you off to something that needs attention regarding Junior.)

This can be very bad news, not only regarding Junior's activities, but as well for your computer, because a lot of these sites are notorious for planting nasties within your harddrive.

So, with this in mind, and assuming you're not the only one surfing on your computer, and that you are computer literate enough to follow instructions slightly more complex than the usual download process:

This is a link to information and downloading for a program called "IE-SPYAD".

https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/ehowes/www/resource.htm

This little gem adds a considerable list of websites, known for spyware activities, to your "Restricted Zones" set up within Windows. In fact, over 5000 of them, including over 900 porn sites.

Thus, when someone else is using your computer, you know that at least some of his/her ventures won't make a victim out of you...assuming they're not savvy enough to figure out how to get around this protective feature.
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Postby Roy Wilson » 08/ 28/ 04 2:33 pm

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Postby springer » 08/ 28/ 04 2:40 pm

Roy Wilson wrote:springer

Ah boys will be boys. It used to be national geographics. :lol:


You, too, eh?

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