Anti-Racist Canada member joins FreeDominion - Breaking !!

[Mark Fournier]

Free Dominioners certainly live in a different world than that of the tiny Maximum Disruption Club.

[styky]

Free Dominioners certainly live in a different world than that of the tiny Maximum Disruption Club.

You bet your hinnie we do

I would think for them that it must get awfully lonely out on that limb their on.

[Mark Fournier]

Free Dominioners certainly live in a different world than that of the tiny Maximum Disruption Club.

You bet your hinnie we do

I would think for them that it must get awfully lonely out on that limb their on.

They have really isolated themselves. Trying to convince internet users that they are better off without freedom is a pretty hard row to hoe.

[Maikeru]

2012
Free Dominion and Strange Bedfellows. Again.....
Back on June 14, we briefly mentioned that Dr. Dawg had won his appeal and that the case would now go to trial.

We don't want to argue the merit of the arguments involved, but we can't help but notice the odd assortment of characters who have lined up over the past year to support the Fourniers in this case.

When Dawg[John Baglow] first filed his suit, Paulie[Paul Fromm] chimed in with his support for the Fourniers:

In another more recent post, Paulie called on his followers to support the Fourniers and Free Dominion after Dawg won his appeal.

Today, we learned that the Fourniers will be supported by another group:

Ah yes, the JDL. We've written about these cats a few times in the past.

At least one of the Free Dominion posters has some concerns about this support:

To which "shiva" replies:

The issue (and link) "shiva" is referring to is found here in the JDL's support of Dutch windbag, anti-Muslim politician Geert Wilders, but it is interesting that "shiva" notes the JDL commitment to free speech is not an issue IF they at least support views congruent with those found on Free Dominion.

Case in point, the JDL actively opposed another windbag, George Galloway, who had been invited to speak in Canada:

Hey, we aren't fans of Galloway, but if you're all for Wilders speaking in Canada (a man who has fomented ethnic and religious bigotry in his own country), it seems a might hypocritical to deny Galloway the right to speak in Canada.

Then again, we well know that Free Dominion really doesn't care about freedom of speech since the appear all too happy to violently stifle the speech of those they disagree with.

But we digress.

Getting back to Paulie, we wonder what he might think of the JDL's support for Free Dominion.

Because, you know, the JDL doesn't really like Paulie either:

Another one of our friends sent us the following:

So let me get this straight, Meir Flintstone [we love that name!] is raising money for the Fourniers who:
a) have as their lawyer Barbara Kulaszka who not only acted as Ernst Zundel's lawyer but also edited this charming book published by Zundel's Samisdat Publishers as well as representing Marc Lemire, Imre Finta and Arthur Rudolph
b) consider Marc Lemire and Paul Fromm to be their friends and Lemire as one of their key witnesses
c) knowingly accepted an award from Doug Christie, who has made a career of representing neo-nazis and war criminals and is known to have far right views himself

So are Marc, Paul and Barbara invited to the fundraiser or would the JDL beat them to a pulp if they showed up (decisions, decisions)?

Well, there might not be a fight, but we imagine that it would make for an awkward evening.

Finally, take a look again at the ADL's website on the JDL. It's an interesting read.

Oh, and to the Darrell Issa fans on Free Dominion, take a look at this (we even picked a "fair and balanced" news source for you).
Posted by Nosferatu200 at 12:02 AM
Labels: Doug Christie, Free Dominion, JDL, Kulaszka, Mark Fournier, Meir Weinstein, Paul Fromm, Wilders

[Connie Fournier]

Blah blah blah. They don't know what to do, do they? They can't STAND the fact that we have a huge assortment of people with varying views supporting us.

Perhaps the real answer, morons, is that you pro-censorship idiots are quite alone in the world. Just about anyone else with warm blood that breathes air opposes your agenda.

It must really suck to be you.

PS I've been eagerly awaiting your report on the Federal Court copyright case. Don't keep me in suspense forever!

[fourhorses]

Case in point, the JDL actively opposed another windbag, George Galloway, who had been invited to speak in Canada:

Hey, we aren't fans of Galloway, but if you're all for Wilders speaking in Canada (a man who has fomented ethnic and religious bigotry in his own country), it seems a might hypocritical to deny Galloway the right to speak in Canada.

Is that true?
If so, the author makes a good point in that you can't suck and blow at the same time.
It's either free speech for everyone (not just politico friends) or censorship for all

[shiva]

2012
Free Dominion and Strange Bedfellows. Again.....
Back on June 14, we briefly mentioned that Dr. Dawg had won his appeal and that the case would now go to trial.

We don't want to argue the merit of the arguments involved, but we can't help but notice the odd assortment of characters who have lined up over the past year to support the Fourniers in this case.

When Dawg[John Baglow] first filed his suit, Paulie[Paul Fromm] chimed in with his support for the Fourniers:

In another more recent post, Paulie called on his followers to support the Fourniers and Free Dominion after Dawg won his appeal.

Today, we learned that the Fourniers will be supported by another group:

Ah yes, the JDL. We've written about these cats a few times in the past.

At least one of the Free Dominion posters has some concerns about this support:

To which "shiva" replies:

The issue (and link) "shiva" is referring to is found here in the JDL's support of Dutch windbag, anti-Muslim politician Geert Wilders, but it is interesting that "shiva" notes the JDL commitment to free speech is not an issue IF they at least support views congruent with those found on Free Dominion.

Case in point, the JDL actively opposed another windbag, George Galloway, who had been invited to speak in Canada:

Hey, we aren't fans of Galloway, but if you're all for Wilders speaking in Canada (a man who has fomented ethnic and religious bigotry in his own country), it seems a might hypocritical to deny Galloway the right to speak in Canada.

Then again, we well know that Free Dominion really doesn't care about freedom of speech since the appear all too happy to violently stifle the speech of those they disagree with.

But we digress.

Getting back to Paulie, we wonder what he might think of the JDL's support for Free Dominion.

Because, you know, the JDL doesn't really like Paulie either:

Another one of our friends sent us the following:

So let me get this straight, Meir Flintstone [we love that name!] is raising money for the Fourniers who:
a) have as their lawyer Barbara Kulaszka who not only acted as Ernst Zundel's lawyer but also edited this charming book published by Zundel's Samisdat Publishers as well as representing Marc Lemire, Imre Finta and Arthur Rudolph
b) consider Marc Lemire and Paul Fromm to be their friends and Lemire as one of their key witnesses
c) knowingly accepted an award from Doug Christie, who has made a career of representing neo-nazis and war criminals and is known to have far right views himself

So are Marc, Paul and Barbara invited to the fundraiser or would the JDL beat them to a pulp if they showed up (decisions, decisions)?

Well, there might not be a fight, but we imagine that it would make for an awkward evening.

Finally, take a look again at the ADL's website on the JDL. It's an interesting read.

Oh, and to the Darrell Issa fans on Free Dominion, take a look at this (we even picked a "fair and balanced" news source for you).
Posted by Nosferatu200 at 12:02 AM
Labels: Doug Christie, Free Dominion, JDL, Kulaszka, Mark Fournier, Meir Weinstein, Paul Fromm, Wilders

I knew that would make their heads explode.

Listen you morons, that "windbag" you love to hate is the leader of the third largest party in the Netherlands. He doesn't HATE Muslims but rather, he has a problem with the radical elements of Islam and apparently a significant number of the Dutch population agree with him. He was accused of a "thought" crime by morons like yourself (yes, we find such morons all over the world).

As for Galloway, his travel problems are related to his tendency to get caught on video fundraising for known terrorists, an action which would be an ACTUAL crime.

Only the willfully blind could conflate the two situations.

Personally, I would have been fine with Galloway coming here but only if he was coming to do a reprieve of this cat performance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vS71Lhn3_So, and not to raise money for terrorists.

These strange bedfellows you speak of share a belief in freedom, something you clearly don't value.

[Mark Fournier]

You can always tell when Lucy has her favourite internet panties in a knot, just listen for the little dogs yapping at the ARC hate site.

[Connie Fournier]

The ARA/ARC crowd are not interested in principles, fourhorses. They are interested in one thing....creating a big sh_tstorm that will destroy our ability to raise money and ruin us financially.

Lots of people are interested in having input on how defamation law should be applied to the internet. Mark and I have been supported by people of all political stripes because they care about this issue.

If we let anonymous (or, actually, not-so-anonymous) blowhards on the other side destroy all of the bridge-building we have been doing, we might as well just give up and let the powers-that-be take the internet from us.

If we take any of their crap seriously, they win.

[shiva]

Case in point, the JDL actively opposed another windbag, George Galloway, who had been invited to speak in Canada:

Hey, we aren't fans of Galloway, but if you're all for Wilders speaking in Canada (a man who has fomented ethnic and religious bigotry in his own country), it seems a might hypocritical to deny Galloway the right to speak in Canada.

Is that true?
If so, the author makes a good point in that you can't suck and blow at the same time.
It's either free speech for everyone (not just politico friends) or censorship for all

Once again the simpletons haven't got it quite right. Parse the statement you've quoted above and you notice that they have misrepresented Galloway's situation and misrepresented Geert himself.

Here's an excellent account of the Galloway situation by Terry Glavin, who is no right winger but is at least an intellectually honest person.

http://transmontanus.blogspot.ca/2010/1 ... going.html

[Mark Fournier]

The Maximum Disruption Club once again sings its one note song. It's all they have. Strip away the vitriol of censors and you'll see there's nothing left underneath.

[RedDog]

And it's not just speech but freedom to associate and "talk" whether I or anyone else agree with the premise or not.

I registered at Rabble Babble a few years ago as I was learning the net. Names that kept coming up I explored with an eye for one to register the same name handle anyplace I might find myself. The fact is the subject matter there made me ill. I take a quick read about once a year and nearly throw up in my mouth before leaving in utter disbelief. If it so offends me the obvious solution is to not go there - so I don't.

But... I respect their right to congregate and chat. I may not agree with a single word of it but it's clear they wouldn't of me either. Many people of such persuasion really need to open their eyes to the future risk of persecution themselves. I insist they have the right to think like they do, to congregate and exchange thought, but I expect the same courtesy.

[Julian]

Case in point, the JDL actively opposed another windbag, George Galloway, who had been invited to speak in Canada:

Hey, we aren't fans of Galloway, but if you're all for Wilders speaking in Canada (a man who has fomented ethnic and religious bigotry in his own country), it seems a might hypocritical to deny Galloway the right to speak in Canada.

Is that true?
If so, the author makes a good point in that you can't suck and blow at the same time.
It's either free speech for everyone (not just politico friends) or censorship for all

Maybe we should ask Ann Coulter for her p.o.v. on the subject. She has first hand experience with the subject.

[Mark Fournier]

I agree with everything you said, Red Dog, except for the very last word. I demand the freedom to speak freely as a right. The handful of censors who have gotten the entire country into this much trouble believe they should be the arbitors of who should have the right to speak and of what may be spoken.

The ugliness we see flowing from their camp clearly reveals the character of those who would put themselves above us all.

[fourhorses]

Case in point, the JDL actively opposed another windbag, George Galloway, who had been invited to speak in Canada:

Hey, we aren't fans of Galloway, but if you're all for Wilders speaking in Canada (a man who has fomented ethnic and religious bigotry in his own country), it seems a might hypocritical to deny Galloway the right to speak in Canada.

Is that true?
If so, the author makes a good point in that you can't suck and blow at the same time.
It's either free speech for everyone (not just politico friends) or censorship for all

Once again the simpletons haven't got it quite right. Parse the statement you've quoted above and you notice that they have misrepresented Galloway's situation and misrepresented Geert himself.

Here's an excellent account of the Galloway situation by Terry Glavin, who is no right winger but is at least an intellectually honest person.

http://transmontanus.blogspot.ca/2010/1 ... going.html

Thanks shiva
that was my question - [ Is this true? ]
should have asked - [ Is this accurate ? ]


Coming out of that wind though is still the premise that one can not suck and blow at the same time. I don't know where they ground their claim that FD posters only favor free speech for their political views - it seems that those who have been asked to curtail it or leave have not been those with opposing views per se, but those who repeatedly go over the line.


Think it is rather obvious that a lot of people do not want FD {Connie/Mark} to succeed or even to continue with this open political forum.