Dwight Eisenhower was a war criminal

[wildernessvoice]

In the words of Peter Worthingham:
Dwight Eisenhower was a war criminal of epic proportions.

The second article I have read on WW2 that i find hard to believe. My father came home from WW2 and he thought Ike was a great man.

Eisenhower's Holocaust - His Slaughter Of 1.7 Million Germans

Author Unknown
6-22-8

"God, I hate the Germans..." (Dwight David Eisenhower in a letter to his wife in September, 1944)

First, I want you to picture something in your mind. You are a German soldier who survived through the battles of World II. You were not really politically involved, and your parents were also indifferent to politics, but suddenly your education was interrupted and you were drafted into the German army and told where to fight. Now, in the Spring of 1945, you see that your country has been demolished by the Allies, your cities lie in ruins, and half of your family has been killed or is missing. Now, your unit is being surrounded, and it is finally time to surrender. The fact is, there is no other choice.

It has been a long, cold winter. The German army rations have not been all that good, but you managed to survive. Spring came late that year, with weeks of cold rainy weather in demolished Europe. Your boots are tattered, your uniform is falling apart, and the stress of surrender and the confusion that lies ahead for you has your guts being torn out. Now, it is over, you must surrender or be shot. This is war and the real world.

You are taken as a German Prisoner of War into American hands. The Americans had 200 such Prisoner of War camps scattered across Germany. You are marched to a compound surrounded with barbed wire fences as far as the eye can see. Thousands upon thousands of your fellow German soldiers are already in this make-shift corral. You see no evidence of a latrine and after three hours of marching through the mud of the spring rain, the comfort of a latrine is upper-most in your mind. You are driven through the heavily guarded gate and find yourself free to move about, and you begin the futile search for the latrine. Finally, you ask for directions, and are informed that no such luxury exists.

No more time. You find a place and squat. First you were exhausted, then hungry, then fearful, and now; dirty. Hundreds more German prisoners are behind you, pushing you on, jamming you together and every one of them searching for the latrine as soon as they could do so. Now, late in the day, there is no space to even squat, much less sit down to rest your weary legs. None of the prisoners, you quickly learn, have had any food that day, in fact there was no food while in the American hands that any surviving prisoner can testify to. No one has eaten any food for weeks, and they are slowly starving and dying. But, they can't do this to us! There are the Geneva Convention rules for the treatment of Prisoners of War. There must be some mistake! Hope continues through the night, with no shelter from the cold, biting rain.

Your uniform is sopping wet, and formerly brave soldiers are weeping all around you, as buddy after buddy dies from the lack of food, water, sleep and shelter from the weather. After weeks of this, your own hope bleeds off into despair, and finally you actually begin to envy those who, having surrendered first manhood and then dignity, now also surrender life itself. More hopeless weeks go by. Finally, the last thing you remember is falling, unable to get up, and lying face down in the mud mixed with the excrement of those who have gone before.

Your body will be picked up long after it is cold, and taken to a special tent where your clothing is stripped off. So that you will be quickly forgotten, and never again identified, your dog-tag is snipped in half and your body along with those of your fellow soldiers are covered with chemicals for rapid decomposition and buried. You were not one of the exceptions, for more than one million seven hundred thousand German Prisoners of War died from a deliberate policy of extermination by starvation, exposure, and disease, under direct orders of the General Dwight David Eisenhower.

One month before the end of World War II, General Eisenhower issued special orders concerning the treatment of German Prisoners and specific in the language of those orders was this statement,

"Prison enclosures are to provide no shelter or other comforts."

Eisenhower biographer Stephen Ambrose, who was given access to the Eisenhower personal letters, states that he proposed to exterminate the entire German General Staff, thousands of people, after the war.

Eisenhower, in his personal letters, did not merely hate the Nazi Regime, and the few who imposed its will down from the top, but that HE HATED THE GERMAN PEOPLE AS A RACE. It was his personal intent to destroy as many of them as he could, and one way was to wipe out as many prisoners of war as possible.

Of course, that was illegal under International law, so he issued an order on March 10, 1945 and verified by his initials on a cable of that date, that German Prisoners of War be predesignated as "Disarmed Enemy Forces" called in these reports as DEF. He ordered that these Germans did not fall under the Geneva Rules, and were not to be fed or given any water or medical attention. The Swiss Red Cross was not to inspect the camps, for under the DEF classification, they had no such authority or jurisdiction.

Months after the war was officially over, Eisenhower's special German DEF camps were still in operation forcing the men into confinement, but denying that they were prisoners. As soon as the war was over, General George Patton simply turned his prisoners loose to fend for themselves and find their way home as best they could. Eisenhower was furious, and issued a specific order to Patton, to turn these men over to the DEF camps. Knowing Patton as we do from history, we know that these orders were largely ignored, and it may well be that Patton's untimely and curious death may have been a result of what he knew about these wretched Eisenhower DEF camps.

The book, OTHER LOSSES, found its way into the hands of a Canadian news reporter, Peter Worthington, of the OTTAWA SUN. He did his own research through contacts he had in Canada, and reported in his column on September 12,1989 the following, in part:
...it is hard
" to escape the conclusion that Dwight Eisenhower was a war criminal of epic proportions. His (DEF) policy killed more Germans in peace than were killed in the European Theater."

"For years we have blamed the 1.7 million missing German POW's on the Russians. Until now, no one dug too deeply ... Witnesses and survivors have been interviewed by the author; one Allied officer compared the American camps to Buchenwald."

It is known, that the Allies had sufficient stockpiles of food and medicine to care for these German soldiers. This was deliberately and intentionally denied them. Many men died of gangrene from frostbite due to deliberate exposure. Local German people who offered these men food, were denied. General Patton's Third Army was the only command in the European Theater to release significant numbers of Germans.

Others, such as Omar Bradley and General J.C.H. Lee, Commander of Com Z, tried, and ordered the release of prisoners within a week of the war's end. However, a SHAEF Order, signed by Eisenhower, countermanded them on May 15th.

Does that make you angry? What will it take to get the average apathetic American involved in saving his country from such traitors at the top? Thirty years ago, amid the high popularity of Eisenhower, a book was written setting out the political and moral philosophy; of Dwight David Eisenhower called, THE POLITICIAN, by Robert Welch. This year is the 107th Anniversary of Eisenhower's birth in Denison, Texas on October 14, 1890, the son of Jacob David Eisenhower and his wife Ida. Everyone is all excited about the celebration of this landmark in the history of "this American patriot." Senator Robert Dole, in honor of the Commander of the American Death Camps, proposed that Washington's Dulles Airport be renamed the Eisenhower Airport!

The UNITED STATES MINT in Philadelphia, PA is actually issuing a special Eisenhower Centennial Silver Dollar for only $25 each. They will only mint 4 million of these collector's items, and veteran's magazines are promoting these coins under the slogan, "Remember the Man...Remember the Times..." Pardon me if I regurgitate!

There will be some veterans who will not be buying these coins. Two will be Col. James Mason and Col. Charles Beasley who were in the U.S. Army Medical Corps who published a paper on the Eisenhower Death Camps in 1950. They stated in part:

"Huddled close together for warmth, behind the barbed wire was a most awesome sight; nearly 100,000 haggard, apathetic, dirty, gaunt, blank-staring men clad in dirty gray uniforms, and standing ankle deep in mud ... water was a major problem, yet only 200 yards away the River Rhine was running bank-full."

Another Veteran, who will not be buying any of the Eisenhower Silver Dollars is Martin Brech of Mahopac, New York, a semi-retired professor of philosophy at Mercy College in Dobbs Ferry, NY. In 1945, Brech was an 18 year old Private First Class in Company C of the 14th Infantry, assigned as a guard and interpreter at the Eisenhower Death Camp at Andernach, along the Rhine River. He stated for SPOTLIGHT, February 12, 1990:

"My protests (regarding treatment of the German DEF'S) were met with hostility or indifference, and when I threw our ample rations to them over the barbed wire. I was threatened, making it clear that it was our deliberate policy not to adequately feed them."

"When they caught me throwing C- Rations over the fence, they threatened me with imprisonment. One Captain told me that he would shoot me if he saw me again tossing food to the Germans ... Some of the men were really only boys 13 years of age...Some of the prisoners were old men drafted by Hitler in his last ditch stand ... I understand that average weight of the prisoners at Andernach was 90 pounds...I have received threats ... Nevertheless, this...has liberated me, for I may now be heard when I relate the horrible atrocity I witnessed as a prison guard for one of 'Ike's death camps' along the Rhine." (Betty Lou Smith Hanson)

[wildernessvoice]

Is this telegram a fraud?

Eisenhower Telegram to the War Department,
18 October 1945
(National Archives, Washington, D.C., RG165)
At the conclusion of World War II more than fifteen million Germans were driven from their homes in central and eastern Europe. It has been estimated that 2,111,000 Germans died directly as a result of these mass expulsions. The primary reference on this subject is: Alfred M. de Zayas, "Nemesis at Potsdam: The Expulsion of the Germans from the East" (University of Nebraska Press) Lincoln and London - ISBN 0-8032-9907-9.
WAR DEPARTMENT
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CRYPTOGRAPHIC SECURITY DOES NOT APPLY. HANDLE AS TOP SECRET CORRESPONDENCE PER PARAS 44g AND 53a AR 380-5

From: CG US Forces European Theater Main Frankfurt Germany
To: War Department
Nr: S 28399..... 18 October 1945

S 28399 to for action War Dept for G 2 attn Major General Clayton Bissell from Hqs US Forces European Theater Main from Connor from Sibert sgd Eisenhower cite ETGBI. TOP SECRET.

Detailed reports from reliable observers including an officer from G 2 Div confirm indications of critical situation developing in area Silesia and eastern Germany.

In Silesia, Polish administration and methods are causing a mass exodus westward of German inhabitants. Germans are being ordered out of their homes and to evacuate New Poland. Many unable to move are placed in camps on meager rations and under poor sanitary conditions. Death and disease rate in camps extremely high. Germans who attempt to hold onto homes and land are terrorized into "Voluntary" evacuation. Methods used by Poles definitely do not conform to Potsdam agreement. Polish administration disorganized in Silesia and no security exists for inhabitants of region.

Due to mass migrations into Brandenberg and Saxony, health conditions in these regions tragically low. There is unprecedented lack of food, medical supplies, and doctors. Reasonable estimates predict between 2.5 and 3 million victims of malnutrition and disease between Oder and Elbe by next spring.

CM-IN-8742 (18 Oct 45)

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From: CG US Forces European Theater, Main Frankfurt Germany
Nr: S28399 18 October 1945

Breslau death rate increased ten fold, and death rate reported to be 75% of all births. Typhoid, typhus, dysentery, and diphtheria are spreading.

Total number potentially involved in westward movement to Russian Zone of Germany from Poland and Czechoslovakia in range of 10 million. Estimate 65 to 75 per cent already departed or on the road westward. No coordinated measures yet taken to direct stream of refugees into specific regions or provide food and shelter. Tendency of refugees is to move into cities, and cities of Saxony, especially are becoming dangerously over crowded. Attention is invited in this connection to serious danger of epidemic of such great proportion as to menace all Europe, including our troops, and to probability of mass starvation unprecedented scale.

Copies of special reports for your information are being forwarded by Mail Annex Nbr 3 to our Special Intelligence Bulletin Nbr 3 gives a preview of this problem.

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ACTION : Gen Bissell

INFO: Gen Arnold, Gen Hull, C of S

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[styky]

This would probably be better fit for the conspiracy theories forum. There was crap on all sides. How much is true I'm not sure. I know that the holocaust is true and the rest, well one mans proof is another mans disproof. I don't know enough to have an opinion.

[RedDog]

Good Lord. But get ready for the Omar Khadr welcome home parade gala weekend with cheque presentation and the key to city hall.

[fourhorses]

The allies starved the German POWS and general population. The western allies (US) also held Paton at bay so that the Russians (Soviets) could be the first into Berlin and have the pleasure of killing, plundering and raping

We need not look so far off shore, my friend
Canada had 26 POW camps in the second war
My gramps and his bro, veterans of WWI, re-upped for WWII and served as Canadian POW Guards
The Canadians were not so gentle
Ever notice that no movies, documentaries or stories are ever told of this
An important part of Canadian history and our contribution to the war effort - and hidden from the public
Why is that

Such is war
The winner always writes the story
But we don't talk about such things in mixed company, now do we .....

[fourhorses]

Good Lord. But get ready for the Omar Khadr welcome home parade gala weekend with cheque presentation and the key to city hall.

Omar
should have been tried for treason
but as you point out
big cheque
keys to the city
probably a new wing in some University will be named in his honor - along with mandatory course study material of western white man guilt throughout the ages

[wildernessvoice]

Good Lord. But get ready for the Omar Khadr welcome home parade gala weekend with cheque presentation and the key to city hall.

You mean the bassturd that threw a gernade and murdered an American soldier.
You mean the bassturd that was held by Americans, tried by Americans and then offered a free ticket back to Canada?

It would seem the the US decided to dump their garbage on us.
Why? No guts to put the bassturd in front of a firing squad?
It is the US that screwed up on this one.

But then look it. We all sat by and watched the Lockerbie bomber get out of jail free.
...and how many Americans did he kill?

[wildernessvoice]

There is so much- and the pohotos as well!

Private Heinz T. (his surname is withheld at his request) had just turned eighteen in hospital when the Americans walked into his ward on April 18. he and all his fellow patients were taken out to the camp at Bad Kreuzpath in the Rhineland, which already held several hundred thousand prisoners. Heinz was wearing only a pair of shorts, shoes, and a shirt.

Heinz was far from the youngest in the camp, which also held thousands of displaced German civilians. there were children as young as six among the prisoners, as well as pregnant women, and men over sixty. At the beginning, when trees still grew i the camp, some men managed to cut off limbs to build a fire. the guards ordered the fire put out. In many of the enclosures, it was forbidden to dig holes in the ground for shelter. "All we had to eat was grass," Heinz remembers.

Charles von Luttichau was convalescing at home when he decided to surrender voluntarily to US troops about to occupy his house. He was taken to Camp Kripp, on the Rhine near Remagen.

"We were kept in crowded barbed wire cages in the open with scarcely any food," he recalled recently. "More than half the days we had no food at all. On the rest, we got a little K ration. I could see from the package that they were giving us one-tenth of the rations that they issued to their own men....I complained to the American camp commander that he was breaking the Geneva Convention, but he just said, 'Forget the Convention. You haven't any rights.'

"The latrines were just logs flung over ditches next to the barbed-wire fences. Because of illness, the men had to defecate on the ground. Soon, many of us were too weak to take our trousers off first. So our clothing was infected, and so was the mud where we had to walk and sit and lie down. In these conditions, our men very soon started to die. Within a few days, some of the men who had gone healthy into the camp were dead. I saw our men dragging many bodies to the gate of the camp, where they were thrown loose on top of each other onto trucks, which took them away."

Von Luttichau's mother was American and he later emigrated to Washington, D.C., where he became a historian and wrote a military history for the U.S. Army. he was in the Kripp camp for about three months.

Wolfgang Iff, who was imprisoned at Rheinberg and still lives in Germany, reports that, in his subsection of perhaps 10,000 prisoners, thirty to fifty bodies were dragged out every day. A member of the burial work party, Iff says he helped haul the dead from his cage out to the gate of the camp, where the bodies were carried by wheel barrow to several big steel garages. there Iff and his team stripped the corpses of clothing, snapped off half of their aluminium dog tag, spread the bodies in layers of fifteen to twenty, with ten shovelfuls of quicklime over each layer till they were stacked a metre high, placed the personal efefcts in a bag for the Americans, then left. Some of the corpses were dead of gangrene following frostbite. (It was an unusually wet, cold spring.) A dozen or more others had grown too weak to cling to the log flung across the ditch for a latrine, and had fallen off and drowned.

The conditions in the American camps along the Rhine in late April were observed by two colonels in the U.S. Army Medical Corps, James Mason and Charles Beasley, who described them in a paper published in 1950: "Huddled close together for warmth, behind the barbed wire was a most awesome sight--nearly 100,000 haggard, apathetic, dirty, gaunt, blank-staring med clad in dirty field grey uniforms, and standing ankle-deep in mud....The German Divisions Commander reported that the men had not eaten for at least two days, and the provisions of water was a major problem--yet only 200 yards away was the River Rhine running bankfull."

[fourhorses]

Good Lord. But get ready for the Omar Khadr welcome home parade gala weekend with cheque presentation and the key to city hall.

You mean the bassturd that threw a gernade and murdered an American soldier.
You mean the bassturd that was held by Americans, tried by Americans and then offered a free ticket back to Canada?

It would seem the the US decided to dump their garbage on us.
Why? No guts to put the bassturd in front of a firing squad?
It is the US that screwed up on this one.

But then look it. We all sat by and watched the Lockerbie bomber get out of jail free.
...and how many Americans did he kill?

and who was that other third worlder guy with the wild claims of CIA-RCMP torture, that Happy Harpy gave the multi-million dollar cheque to ....


anyone looked in the mirror lately
- seen a big S on your forehead

[DA_Champion]

Wilderness,

Thank you for your research.

Personally I have no doubt about the claims, but I know why they won't be fully investigated. They interfere with one of the most important mythologies of our society: that we were the good guys in World War II. That war is painted in our historical minds as a battle between good and evil, i.e. there is an ignorant caricature most subscribe too.

[fourhorses]

and think
Patton wanted to re-arm the German soldiers under the Americans and continue on to Moscow

where would we be today
what would all those marxist professors of the last few decades have done for a living

[wildernessvoice]

The allies starved the German POWS and general population. The western allies (US) also held Paton at bay so that the Russians (Soviets) could be the first into Berlin and have the pleasure of killing, plundering and raping

We need not look so far off shore, my friend
Canada had 26 POW camps in the second war
My gramps and his bro, veterans of WWI, re-upped for WWII and served as Canadian POW Guards
The Canadians were not so gentle
Ever notice that no movies, documentaries or stories are ever told of this
An important part of Canadian history and our contribution to the war effort - and hidden from the public
Why is that
...............

Found only a couple of references:

Soon after V-E Day--May 8, 1945--the British-Canadian catch totalled more that 2 million. Virtually nothing about their treatment survives in the archives in Ottawa or London, but some skimpy evidence from the International Committee of the Red Cross, the armies concerned, and the prisoners themselves indicates that almost all continued in fair health. In any case, most were quickly released and sent home, or else transferred to the French to help in the post-war work of reconstruction. The French army had itself taken fewer than 300,000 prisoners.


...and a bit about the Canadian Prime Minister:

On May 8, V-E Day, the German government was abolished and, simultaneously, the U.S. State Department dismissed Switzerland as the protecting power for the German prisoners. (Prime Minister Mackenzie King of Canada protested to the foreign Office in London the parallel removal of the Swiss as protecting power in British-Canadian camps, but was squelched for his pains.) With this done, the State Department informed the International Red Cross that, since there was no protecting power to report to, there was no longer and point in visiting the camps.

From then on, prisoners held by the US Army had no access to any impartial observer, nor could they receive food parcels, clothing, or medicines from any relief agency, or letters from their kin.

[wildernessvoice]

and think
Patton wanted to re-arm the German soldiers under the Americans and continue on to Moscow

where would we be today
what would all those marxist professors of the last few decades have done for a living

Patton! There was a war hero.

Found a bit on him:

general George Patton's US Third Army was the only army in the whole European theatre to free significant numbers of captives during ma, saving many of them from probable death. Bothe Omar Bradley and General J.C.H. lee, Commander Communications Zone (Com Z) Europe, ordered a release of prisoners within a week of the war's end, but a SHAEF order signed "Eisenhower" countermanded them on my 15.

There were German troops that left the western front and without orders placed themselves on the eastern front to face Russian troops. They actually hoped that they would join the allies and follow Patton to Moscow.
No wonder Patton had to die in an accident.

[fourhorses]

but some skimpy evidence from the International Committee of the Red Cross, the armies concerned, and the prisoners themselves indicates that almost all continued in fair health. In any case, most were quickly released and sent home, or else transferred to the French to help in the post-war work of reconstruction. The French army had itself taken fewer than 300,000 prisoners.

slave labor
no different than the soviets did with thousands of German POWs at the end of WW III


but then we have all watched the Rambo movies of infiltrating the southeast jungles to save a few American POWs from those asian commie work camps

[Gerry T. Neal]

This would probably be better fit for the conspiracy theories forum. There was crap on all sides. How much is true I'm not sure. I know that the holocaust is true and the rest, well one mans proof is another mans disproof. I don't know enough to have an opinion.

This is not a conspiracy theory. Robert K. Wilcox's book Target Patton, which gives evidence suggesting that the car crash which killed Patton was not an accident but an assassination, hints that Eisenhower was the one behind it. The evidence is insufficient to say "Eisenhower murdered Patton" is an established fact, and so "Eisenhower murdered Patton" is a conspiracy theory.

That Eisenhower was a war criminal, however, is not a conspiracy theory but an established fact. The article the author of this thread posted talks about the prisoner of war camps the Americans set up at the end of the war. What happened in those camps is only part of the story. There was also the forced repatriation of people who had escaped Soviet tyranny and ended up in German prison camps where the Allies found them. The orders for this came from Eisenhower himself. Called "the last secret of World War II" by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, this was well-documented by Julius Epstein in Operation Keelhaul (you can download a scanned copy here: http://web.archive.org/web/200408100142 ... BOOK03.PDF) fourhourses points out that "The western allies (US) also held Paton at bay so that the Russians (Soviets) could be the first into Berlin and have the pleasure of killing, plundering and raping". It was Eisenhower who personally did this - and Churchill was furious at him for doing so.