Bill C-30 being EXPANDED by Committee - Geist

[Connie Fournier]

Geist: Justice Committee recommends expanding online spying bill despite outcry

Posted on Wednesday, April 4, 2012 - 19:43
http://openmedia.ca/blog/geist-justice- ... ite-outcry

By Michael Geist

The government has placed Bill C-30, the lawful access/online surveillance bill on hold, but there is no reason to believe it is going away. In fact, a recent report Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights suggests that the changes coming to the bill may not address public concern but rather expand lawful access requirements even further. The committee report on the State of Organized Crime that includes recommendations that reinforce Bill C-30's mandatory warrantless disclosure of subscriber information and envision going beyond the bill by requiring both telecom companies and device manufacturers to assist in the decryption of encrypted communications as well as exploring mandatory verification of the identity of cellphone users.

On subscriber information disclosure, the report's recommendations state:

The Committee recommends the establishment of a statutory mechanism enabling law enforcement agencies, without a warrant, to require telecommunication service providers to disclose basic information identifying their subscribers. Privacy measures would have to be created, however, and prior court authorization would always be required to allow these agencies to intercept private communications.

This is a reaffirmation of Bill C-30 that has been the subject of widespread criticism from Canadians across the political spectrum.

The report also recommends expanding the lawful access bill by including provisions not currently found in Bill C-30. For example:

The Committee recommends that the Government of Canada introduce legislation requiring telecommunications service providers and telecommunications device manufacturers to decrypt legally intercepted communications or to provide assistance to law enforcement agencies in this regard.

[Connie Fournier]

We are going to be talking about this more later today, but there has been a recent onslaught of attacks on the reputations of people who are opposing this legislation. I think we are in for a blogosphere WAR over this!

[Julian]

So the message is that we will do as we are told and we will like it???

They want a war? Bring it on. Let's see who has the most skeleton's in their closet.

[Julian]

This issue is bothering me in a grievous manner. It is infuriating that the government sees itself as being above the people it no longer serves but rather "Rules". The s.o.b's think they can just strip away the freedom, liberty, money, integrity, culture and values of people without so much as a second thought about it.

They really do think of us sheep! They rob us blind, treat themselves like Royalty have several versions of "the law" of which the most oppressive versions apply only to the sheep. They themselves are above the law for all practical purpose and we are supposed to accept this because they say we have to?

They comply with the law and all regulation but they Make the law and the regulations.... which are to their own exclusive benefit!

So tell me, do they work for us? or do they rule us with an iron fist? Are they our equals or our betters?

They have done a rethink and are now overhauling our system of governance without the consent of the governed. They are turning Canada into a dictatorship incrementally and relentlessly, and one party is little better than the other.

We don't have to allow this to take place. Canada belongs to Canadians, not the government.

[Hodgson]

Oh come on!
If you're not a terrorist or a child pornographer what are you worried about?

(Just kidding. I'm over this stuff. You guys win. Let's fight it.)

[Julian]

I'm putting wireless cameras in all of the rooms of my house. ....ALL of the rooms because we are law abiding people and we have nothing to hide. CSIS and the Competition Bureau have a right to know what we are doing at all times. ... the RUMP errr RCMP can mind their own business! Sometimes I get them confused with the Ukrainian force.

[Godwin]

This issue is bothering me in a grievous manner. It is infuriating that the government sees itself as being above the people it no longer serves but rather "Rules". The s.o.b's think they can just strip away the freedom, liberty, money, integrity, culture and values of people without so much as a second thought about it.

They really do think of us sheep! They rob us blind, treat themselves like Royalty have several versions of "the law" of which the most oppressive versions apply only to the sheep. They themselves are above the law for all practical purpose and we are supposed to accept this because they say we have to?

They comply with the law and all regulation but they Make the law and the regulations.... which are to their own exclusive benefit!

So tell me, do they work for us? or do they rule us with an iron fist? Are they our equals or our betters?

They have done a rethink and are now overhauling our system of governance without the consent of the governed. They are turning Canada into a dictatorship incrementally and relentlessly, and one party is little better than the other.

If the populace weren't sheep, governments would have been abolished, along with ritual sacrifice. Why so surprised? Politicians and bureaucrats act in their own interests which means governments expand, control more resources and wield more power.

Why would you expect anything else?




We don't have to allow this to take place. Canada belongs to Canadians, not the government.[/quote]

[Mark Fournier]

As far as the Canadian internet goes, Bill C-30 is the Ring of Power. If the government gets it there will be no fighting back against any issue.

[styky]

Justice Committee Report Recommends Expanding Lawful Access Legislation
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/michael-ge ... 03490.html

[Connie Fournier]

What makes me so angry is that they slinked away after introducing this Bill and conned us into thinking that they were going to bring it back with the terrible stuff taken out. Instead, they are making it even worse. Do they really think we won't kick up just as big a stink when they bring it out again the next time??

[free_life2]

Actually I was expecting this.

[wildernessvoice]

So, the Wildrose Party rises to power in Alberta.
These are the "old white guys from Reform'" lol.
We talk them into going federal.
We then talk them into coming into Ontario.
Then we ........oops! Been there & done that!

[Maikeru]

... a recent report Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights suggests that the changes coming to the bill may not address public concern but rather expand lawful access requirements even further.

One of two Vice-Chairs of the 'Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights' is MP Irwin Cotler, arguably the figurehead of 'Human Rights' activism and legislation in Canada.

Mr. Cotler directed the 'Human Rights' program at McGill University from 1973 until 1999, and was mentor to/colleague of McGill graduate Richard Warman during the period that Mr. Warman was referred to as Canada's self-appointed 'Hatefinder General'

During Mr. Cotler's tenure as Justice Minister and Attorney General of Canada [December 2003 to February 2006], colleague Richard Warman was actively engaged in launching complaints with the CHRCommission, and participating in CHRTribunal hearings arising from those complaints.

During Mr. Cotler's tenure as Parliamentary Public Safety/Human Rights/Justice Critic from Feb 2006 until the present day, he has remained mute to concerns arising from Mr. Warman's CHRC/T activism, and associated litigation, while stating outside the House that:

- the AlbertaHRT should never have entertained the Stephen Boisson Hearing; and
- that "truth should be a defense"; and
- that he is against SLAPP suits--strategic litigation to shut down political debate; and
- that "The first point of departure has to be the importance and the protection of free speech...a "baseline" that must be protected.

During a 'Human Dignity' rally in August of 2008, Mr. Cotler railed against the Chinese government thusly:

- we should not be rewarding a culture of impunity; and
- Their [Chinese government] deeds betray their undertaking; and
- Put an end to the firewall between journalists and the chinese citizens, and between chinese citizens and the media themselves.

Mr. Cotler's also stated during the 'Human Dignity' rally that:

China buying oil from Sudan, Sudan using the oil to buy weapons from China, and the weapons used to kill Darfuri, and so we say at this point to China: the culture of impunity must end.

which might be seen as a prescient forward to Ezra Levant's book 'Ethical Oil'
and that:

There are times such as these 'Qui s'excuse s'accuse - whoever remains indifferent indicts himself and herself', and so we say " We will not be silenced, we will not be indifferent, we will be relentless in raising our voice for the pursuit of freedom for all.

which is the 'crie de geurre' of FreeDominion with regard to the abuse visited upon Canadians by 'Sec. 13.1' persecutions.

Under covert surveillance by CHRC investigators since 2006, FreeDominion has been hounded by a cabal of 'like-minded' activists and blog sites in an ongoing attempt to 'shut down political debate' which occurs on this site.

Mr. Cotler is complicit in this pursuit, as he 'knew or ought to have known' of the ongoing activities (eg. commentaries demonizing FreeDominion members and the Conservative Party of Canada) at the 'Anti-Racist Canada' website, and those who contribute to the commentaries of that site, and those sites which link to and disseminate the syndicated information appearing in Anti-Racist Canada and associated sites.

Would that Mr. Cotler be as outspoken in defense of the right for members of FreeDominion to criticize the actions of CHRC/T employees and Sec 13.1 activist Richard Warman, but alas, FreeDominion is not in China.

Having failed to protect against the excesses in legal litigation springing from 'human rights' activism in Canada, both as Justice Minister in the government, and as 'Justice Critic' in Loyal Opposition, Mr. Cotler should resign from his position of Vice-Chair, Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights.

He has failed to adequately address the wrongdoings perpetrated against 'freedom of expression', in the name of 'human rights', within his own borders, and allows his own activism against anti-Semitic rhetoric to cloud his judgment with regard to establishing rules for the conduct of his fellow Canadians.

Until such time as Mr. Cotler properly addresses the 'deeds which betrayed the undertaking' in his own country, following his own lead, he should refrain from active participation in establishing new rules under consideration by Canada's lawmakers.

[Angleland]

So maybe there was a hidden agenda afterall - but not the one the left whined about or the right hoped for.

In talking to some lefty liberals recently about this so call Protection of Children garbage act aka Violation of Privacy and Warrantless Police Searches, I recalled that back in Reform days, local riding people were not allowed to know the names of riding officials in other ridings. We were told to obey the Fuhrer er I mean Manning. We had no need to talk among ourselves. Our duty was to obey the Fu- er I mean Manning.

Then the internet evolved and made these decrees increasingly irrelevant.

Then Manning was tossed into the garbage bin of history where he belongs.

Yet his overall control freak vision seems to be making a comeback.

Perhaps Harper is becoming what he once loathed.

Willl Katsmeat give him a kiss?

[Maikeru]

bump for this very important issue...