Holder talks financial crime, affirmative action at Low

[tango37]

This is indeed revealing. If Obama wins in November it could be dire. Now how to circumvent that pesky SCOTUS. Some of it is could be done by Executive Order. "The benefits to which they are entitled." That could mean many things including reparations but surely a lot more of something for nothing. Yes, more diversity is what's needed. How about starting with the NBA.

One of Bollinger’s questions concerned the United States Supreme Court’s decision earlier this week to reconsider affirmative action. Bollinger was involved in defending affirmative action when the court declared it constitutional in a landmark 2003 case, and he said on Thursday that the court’s decision to revisit the issue is “ominous.”

Holder expressed support for affirmative action, saying that he “can’t actually imagine a time in which the need for more diversity would ever cease.”

“Affirmative action has been an issue since segregation practices,” Holder said. “The question is not when does it end, but when does it begin ... When do people of color truly get the benefits to which they are entitled?”

http://www.columbiaspectator.com/2012/0 ... action-low

[styky]

Perhaps they are unfamiliar with this piece of work.............

The Declaration of Independence: A Transcription

IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776.

The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.........................http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charte ... cript.html

[Julian]

You know, it looks more and more as if obamed's racist administration <i>wants</i> racial violence. They are obviously attempting to bribe black voters by promising a racial aristocracy to them if the vote for obamed.

Even the Clinton's don't dare to oppose this quisling. Who is the power behind this fraud?

[PoliticallyIncorrect]

You know, it looks more and more as if obamed's racist administration <i>wants</i> racial violence.

It's already happening:

Man, 78, recounts assault by 6 youths in E. Toledo

While Mr. Watts was down the boys kicked him, over and over, shouting, "[Get] that white [man]. This is for Trayvon ... Trayvon lives, white [man]. Kill that white [man]," according to a police report.

The boys fled when a man shouted at them, according to the report.

http://www.toledoblade.com/Police-Fire/ ... oledo.html

[styky]

Former Obama Student: Obama's Ignorance of Constitution Embarrassing

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government ... barrassing

[Edward Kennedy]

The old guy should have been armed, he copuld had ridden society of some scum in self defense.

[smallLliberal]

You know, it looks more and more as if obamed's racist administration <i>wants</i> racial violence. They are obviously attempting to bribe black voters by promising a racial aristocracy to them if the vote for obamed.

Hey Julian .. who was Prez in 2003?

defending affirmative action when the court declared it constitutional in a landmark 2003 case

I know you want to blame Obama for everything, but his AG is just defending a law passed a long time ago.

Unfortunately, affirmative action is needed to reverse the wrongs done a long time ago. I hope there is a day when it is not needed and that their society becomes truly colour blind. Dont think they are there just yet.

[pirapoi]

There were 2 Supreme court rulings in 2003 re affirmative action - one for, one against
so yeah, it probably should be revistited.

Grutter v. Bollinger ( 539 U.S. 306 )

Justice Sandra Day O'Connor, writing for the majority in a 5-4 decision, ruled that the University of Michigan Law School had a compelling interest in promoting class diversity. The court held that a race-conscious admissions process that may favor "underrepresented minority groups," but that also took into account many other factors evaluated on an individual basis for every applicant, did not amount to a quota system that would have been unconstitutional under Regents of the Univ. of Cal. v. Bakke.


Gratz v. Bollinger ( 539 U.S. 244 )

In a 6–3 decision announced on June 23, 2003, Chief Justice Rehnquist, writing for the Court, ruled the University's point system's "predetermined point allocations" that awarded 20 points to underrepresented minorities "ensures that the diversity contributions of applicants cannot be individually assessed" and was therefore unconstitutional.

[Edward Kennedy]

You know, it looks more and more as if obamed's racist administration <i>wants</i> racial violence. They are obviously attempting to bribe black voters by promising a racial aristocracy to them if the vote for obamed.

Hey Julian .. who was Prez in 2003?

defending affirmative action when the court declared it constitutional in a landmark 2003 case

I know you want to blame Obama for everything, but his AG is just defending a law passed a long time ago.

Unfortunately, affirmative action is needed to reverse the wrongs done a long time ago. I hope there is a day when it is not needed and that their society becomes truly colour blind. Dont think they are there just yet.

Yeah, racism and anti White bigotry sure eliminate wrongs done eons ago, right?

[The Devil's Advocate]

I think the thread title should perhaps reflect the title of the posted article, no?

In any event, and I suspect this distinction is going to get lost, but anyway, there's a difference between the two concepts of "more benefits" (than they're getting now) -- which is I believe the sentiment he's trying to express and "more benefits" (than anyone else), suggestioning they deserve special status of some kind.

[The Gooch]

You know, it looks more and more as if obamed's racist administration <i>wants</i> racial violence. They are obviously attempting to bribe black voters by promising a racial aristocracy to them if the vote for obamed.

Hey Julian .. who was Prez in 2003?

defending affirmative action when the court declared it constitutional in a landmark 2003 case

I know you want to blame Obama for everything, but his AG is just defending a law passed a long time ago.

Unfortunately, affirmative action is needed to reverse the wrongs done a long time ago. I hope there is a day when it is not needed and that their society becomes truly colour blind. Dont think they are there just yet.

Yes because all those boat people and other asian groups coming to the US need extra help. Fact of the matter is it is not my fault that many black, or aboriginal youths are born to unwed teen moms who have substance abuse problems. Lowering the bar only shows the racism of those on the left that believe that these "disadvantaged" groups shouldn't be expected to live up to the same level as everyone else.

[styky]

I think the thread title should perhaps reflect the title of the posted article, no?

In any event, and I suspect this distinction is going to get lost, but anyway, there's a difference between the two concepts of "more benefits" (than they're getting now) -- which is I believe the sentiment he's trying to express and "more benefits" (than anyone else), suggestioning they deserve special status of some kind.

Yes if should and that has been corrected....thank you

[Edward Kennedy]

You know, it looks more and more as if obamed's racist administration <i>wants</i> racial violence. They are obviously attempting to bribe black voters by promising a racial aristocracy to them if the vote for obamed.

Hey Julian .. who was Prez in 2003?

defending affirmative action when the court declared it constitutional in a landmark 2003 case

I know you want to blame Obama for everything, but his AG is just defending a law passed a long time ago.

Unfortunately, affirmative action is needed to reverse the wrongs done a long time ago. I hope there is a day when it is not needed and that their society becomes truly colour blind. Dont think they are there just yet.

Yes because all those boat people and other asian groups coming to the US need extra help. Fact of the matter is it is not my fault that many black, or aboriginal youths are born to unwed teen moms who have substance abuse problems. Lowering the bar only shows the racism of those on the left that believe that these "disadvantaged" groups shouldn't be expected to live up to the same level as everyone else.

For sure.

[Lee Enfield]

You know, it looks more and more as if obamed's racist administration <i>wants</i> racial violence. They are obviously attempting to bribe black voters by promising a racial aristocracy to them if the vote for obamed.

Hey Julian .. who was Prez in 2003?

defending affirmative action when the court declared it constitutional in a landmark 2003 case

I know you want to blame Obama for everything, but his AG is just defending a law passed a long time ago.

Unfortunately, affirmative action is needed to reverse the wrongs done a long time ago. I hope there is a day when it is not needed and that their society becomes truly colour blind. Dont think they are there just yet.

Reverse wrongs from a long time ago?

Modern black working age people who have not been wronged are being rewarded, while modern white people who had nothing to do with the past are being penalized because of their race.

Is this what "social justice" is all about?

Others justify this racial discrimination because "it helps immigrants". If a white immigrant arrives from Europe, however, he is NOT helped by these policies, but is rather penalized by them.

I'm fed up with it all. Social Marxists are always talking about "White privilege" when Asians and Jews are the highest earning ethnic groups in America.

Truth/justice and socialism/Marxism no longer co-exist.

And as far as the Constitution goes, Shrub Bush said that it was just a piece G.D. of paper. Obama has probably given it even less respect.