'Reprehensible' is Not Enough - disband the CHRC/T

[Edward Kennedy]

Lucille, we all realize that you are on the side of right, and you are embraced as such by all of us here, I am sure, certainly I can speak for myself.

Besides, how could you be anything but right, since you are on the same side as we all are.

I expect that the ugliness of the hrc's and the slags who work there is being seen by even the politically correct useful idiots of the herd, and anyone with any common sense realizes the whole organization is a corrupt cesspool of stagnating donkey turds and are nothing but bottom feeding leeches wasting our money.

If good veterans from the past two great wars were alive, the hrc hypocrits would have been pushing up daisies long ago.

I like the way you write your feelings about our adversaries.

I guess we both grew up on the same side of the tracks and neither of us has any use for leftist pussies!

I've been around my dad's sawmills, his oil rigs, and his transport business' since as long as I can remember and I've heard the rough talk many times

Still, sometimes I surprise those rough necks at the camps when I retaliate to their advances of them thinking I'm a push-over and they figure they're going to somehow do me.

Doesn't take long afterward, though, to gain their respect because I can walk their talk just as well as they do and put them in their place.

It's called survival of the fittest in the ruff and tumble world of rural Canada and I think I do that very well.

It's pity though that some of the 'elitist' Urban Conservatives on here can't seem to understand what I've gone through in my life to 'survive' and take offense to my rough talk.

Which leads me to believe there are 'rightist' pussies as well!

I know that Lucille, and I am aware of your "baptisms by fire". You are a special gal for sure, and I added you to my mantle of Conservative women long ago, that I cherish and love. I am not afraid to state my hatred for lieberals, and I am not afraid as many are, of stating my affections. I do know both scare a lot of people, but the question is which? I am inclined to think the latter.

It feels good though to be natural and free with my thoughts, and I recognize you are similar to I, with one big difference, you are like the other Conservative women I cherish, and all Conservative women, much much easier to look at.

Many of them consider me as a father, and some are peers of my age category. Most are married but all, give me a sense of balance which only a good woman can do. They have one big thing in common which is very sublime, they are INTELLIGENT...WOW...PRINCIPLED...WOW...and so much more. You have another characteristic that is precious, you have FIGHT...WOWSERS

You are a smart gal, and perceptive as well. Look after yourself...BTW, why are you not sleeping?

[Lucille]

Please don't write condescendingly to me, ... we are entitled to our SAY no matter how it might come across to someone else! I am on the side of what's right, proper, moral and good, so lay off, ok!!!!

There's nothing dramatic, mean-spirited or condescending in what I wrote - just good advice you should take to heart.

And with that you've just exemplified your condescending attitude toward me.

I'm not a stupid person, I can change a light bulb by myself, and wire a whole building for that matter, and I will willingly take advice from my peers, but not from someone who feels 'superior' to me!

It makes me ill that when I gave you commendations you slapped me in the face for it.

Lesson learned, I'll not do that anymore!

Lucile, you are a precious gal, for sure, and not only accepted here but loved for who and what you are, and for standing for what is right. Do not forget that. No, you are certainly not a stupid person, nor did anyone ever think that. Stupid is an adjective best applied to lieberals.

I can see how you might feel as you do but I am not of the opinion, from where I sit, that Maikeru means any disrespect towards you, he could not when he saves all that for lieberals.

I do wish more of your gender had the fight in them that you do, as it is one of many essential traits that identifies a woman as Conservative, and in the mix, makes a woman attractive. You can see my attentivety to the Conservative women here, and my admiration/affection/cherishment towards them as well for who and what they are. You are indeed in that group, always were.

I would not be as inclined towards anyone, Maikeru included, had I the notion they were being disrespectful towards any of the gals I cherish, and that included you. I say to my women clients, if they are displeased with me, I accord them the right to beat on me with their brooms if I displease them. I accord that also to you if you take offense at my opinion that Maikeru in all probability thinks of you as I do and would not even think of disrespecting you.

So what shall it be gal, need I take off my shirt and stand against the wall, waiting for the blows to rain down on me from your delicate hands? Nobody has ever done that to me, and you would be the first.

My but you are a fireball, and I love it!!! ...and you

I know that Edward. I know you give a lot of quarter to Conservative women on here and respect them dearly.

I also know that the more of a flame thrower we are and the more feisty we are against the liebral liars & deceivers the more you'll defend us to your last breath.

I sincerely thank you for that as I'm sure all of us do!

But, I'm way off topic here, I started ON topic but was swatted for my language and commending someone for the great work on behalf of Connie & Mark and all freedom loving Canadians and unfortunately it turns out I'm responsible for corrupting this topic.

So, I'll have to concede and give this topic back to those who have pertinent valuable input toward it.

I have to give it back to Maikeru and take my leave.

However, Many Thanks for your support, Edward!

[Lucille]

One would think that with Lawyers insinuated in every facet of Canadian society, and particularly in Parliament, that someone would have noticed there was something quite creepy about 'human rights' hate-speech (aka 'blasphemy') persecutions to begin with, arising from the sheer number of Lawyers funded by the public on behalf of the Complainant, arrayed against Respondents acting for themselves.

Seems to me that would fall into the category of Bullying!

Bully:

a : blustering browbeating person(s); especially : those habitually cruel to others who are weaker

b : hired ruffian's

[Edward Kennedy]

Please don't write condescendingly to me, ... we are entitled to our SAY no matter how it might come across to someone else! I am on the side of what's right, proper, moral and good, so lay off, ok!!!!

There's nothing dramatic, mean-spirited or condescending in what I wrote - just good advice you should take to heart.

And with that you've just exemplified your condescending attitude toward me.

I'm not a stupid person, I can change a light bulb by myself, and wire a whole building for that matter, and I will willingly take advice from my peers, but not from someone who feels 'superior' to me!

It makes me ill that when I gave you commendations you slapped me in the face for it.

Lesson learned, I'll not do that anymore!

Lucile, you are a precious gal, for sure, and not only accepted here but loved for who and what you are, and for standing for what is right. Do not forget that. No, you are certainly not a stupid person, nor did anyone ever think that. Stupid is an adjective best applied to lieberals.

I can see how you might feel as you do but I am not of the opinion, from where I sit, that Maikeru means any disrespect towards you, he could not when he saves all that for lieberals.

I do wish more of your gender had the fight in them that you do, as it is one of many essential traits that identifies a woman as Conservative, and in the mix, makes a woman attractive. You can see my attentivety to the Conservative women here, and my admiration/affection/cherishment towards them as well for who and what they are. You are indeed in that group, always were.

I would not be as inclined towards anyone, Maikeru included, had I the notion they were being disrespectful towards any of the gals I cherish, and that included you. I say to my women clients, if they are displeased with me, I accord them the right to beat on me with their brooms if I displease them. I accord that also to you if you take offense at my opinion that Maikeru in all probability thinks of you as I do and would not even think of disrespecting you.

So what shall it be gal, need I take off my shirt and stand against the wall, waiting for the blows to rain down on me from your delicate hands? Nobody has ever done that to me, and you would be the first.

My but you are a fireball, and I love it!!! ...and you

I know that Edward. I know you give a lot of quarter to Conservative women on here and respect them dearly.

I also know that the more of a flame thrower we are and the more feisty we are against the liebral liars & deceivers the more you'll defend us to your last breath.

I sincerely thank you for that as I'm sure all of us do!

But, I'm way off topic here, I started ON topic but was swatted for my language and commending someone for the great work on behalf of Connie & Mark and all freedom loving Canadians and unfortunately it turns out I'm responsible for corrupting this topic.

So, I'll have to concede and give this topic back to those who have pertinent valuable input toward it.

I have to give it back to Maikeru and take my leave.

However, Many Thanks for your support, Edward!

Lucille, you are more responsible than many here, myself included, relative to an awareness of being off topic...you are not responsible for corrupting anything, or anyone...and you will always have my support, encouragement, and cherishment. You are really possessive of an outspoken demeanor which I admire...and you are well aware of the foibles of our existence. You give proof of many more quailty traits desirable in your gender but which predominate in Conservative women such as you.

Like all Conservative women, you are adorable. "Women wish to be loved without a why, or a wherefore; not because they are pretty, or good, or well-bred, or graceful, or intelligent, but because they are themselves." (Amiel) "All women are alike, but they are all different." (Edward Kennedy)

Yet one can recognize the exquisite difference between women and REAL WOMEN, and it needs saying that COnservative women "seal up the sum" as it goes for their gender.

Now see Lucille, how far I have gone off topic, but I see nobody is complaining, and why should they? The topic of your gender is ALWAYS a hot item and I enjoy turning up the heat.

Merry Christmas Lucille, look in the mirror, and give yourself a smile of approval. It would mirror mine.


Always Edward

[Maikeru]

One would think that with Lawyers insinuated into every facet of Canadian society, and particularly in Parliament, that someone would have noticed there was something quite creepy about 'human rights' hate-speech (aka 'blasphemy') persecutions to begin with, arising from the sheer number of Lawyers funded by the public on behalf of the Complainant, arrayed against Respondents acting for themselves.

Seems to me that would fall into the category of Bullying!

I agree, but that's only part of the solution/problem.

Where are the lawyers arguing for the 'downtrodden' (and what could be worse than a villain tied to "international violence") ?
Canada is an extremely 'lawful' society - yet there always seems to be a demand for more 'law'.

'Human rights' law in Canada is a legal 'pyramid sc[a]eme', and the only real solution is to disband the CHRC/T, and start over, one day at a time, as with other forms of addiction.

[Edward Kennedy]

One would think that with Lawyers insinuated into every facet of Canadian society, and particularly in Parliament, that someone would have noticed there was something quite creepy about 'human rights' hate-speech (aka 'blasphemy') persecutions to begin with, arising from the sheer number of Lawyers funded by the public on behalf of the Complainant, arrayed against Respondents acting for themselves.

Seems to me that would fall into the category of Bullying!

I agree, but that's only part of the solution/problem.

Where are the lawyers arguing for the 'downtrodden' (and what could be worse than a villain tied to "international violence") ?
Canada is an extremely 'lawful' society - yet there always seems to be a demand for more 'law'.

'Human rights' law in Canada is a legal 'pyramid sc[a]eme', and the only real solution is to disband the CHRC/T, and start over, one day at a time, as with other forms of addiction.

Law, or should I say justice is sadly lacking in hrc inquisatorial kangaroo court leftist trash...we need a garbage truck to pull up in front of their office, and the hrc employees thrown in and disposed of in the oversize trash collector.

Pray to the God you hrc trash do not believe in or serve that any of you bigots never trespass on MY property and fall under my system of justice...hint - I have some tar and feathers stored in the shed just in case...

[Lucille]

Maikeru

'Human rights' law in Canada is a legal 'pyramid sc[a]eme', and the only real solution is to disband the CHRC/T, and start over, one day at a time.

Human Rights Commissions should be dismantled and retooled back to their ROOTS. However, wait a second, don't quote me on that because that's how I'd feel about the Commission IF it had any sense of fairness, justice, integrity, intelligence, common sense, rationality, which it has proven, it hasn't -- judging by their decision re the McDonald's Employee in the excerpts below, so I'm with Maikeru, it should be disbanded completely and chucked back into the pits of hell where it came from in the first place -- and then rebuild it minus the mistakes that turned it into ashes.

I found this piece in at an American Media site and am cautious to only post certain excerpts because although Americans enjoy free speech, we don't, and some bureaucratic puppet at the CHRC/T actually blurted that out point blank in our (Canadian's) faces at one of the blasphemy tribunals.

"Canadian Human Rights Commission

Be careful. The name is a misnomer. These organizations have little to do with protecting "human rights" at all. They are quasi-judicial, politically-correct bodies that have the authority to pursue anyone if a complaint is made based on one of the "prohibited grounds of discrimination" listed in the enabling legislation -- race, ethnic origin, age and sex, for example. The law goes on to state specific examples of illegal discrimination, such as communicating anything that "is likely to expose a person or persons to hatred or contempt.

Standard rules of procedure and due process are not followed, and just about any complaint is admissible for consideration – as long as the feeling of being wronged is there.

The list of cases that have been heard by the commission's tribunals is baffling – as are their rulings, which almost always come down on the side of the plaintiff. (To cite just one egregious example, a British Columbia human rights tribunal ruled in favor of a McDonald's employee who refused to wash her hands.)"

CHRC/T ROOTS

Those who originally conceived of the human rights commissions never intended for them to be used to limit speech.

They have strayed far from their original purpose, which was to protect minorities from discrimination in situations like job hiring and renting an apartment.

Of course we Canadians who 'foster' and 'action' survival instincts in regards to freedom of speech know of the Commission's many injustices, but I was very pleased to find an American Media Site speaking in solidarity on our behalf.

[westcoast woman]

I have been following the story of the human rights industry on this site as well as anywhere else I can find out about it. As a tax payer I would like to see the financial statements, generous amounts were paid out to various experts who also have an interest in keeping the gravy train going. The federal and provincial bureaus need to be open with this information.

[Edward Kennedy]

Lucille comments on an American source which accurately defines the hrc bigot, and like her, I have found that American sources of the right are generally accurate and true. One cannot overstate what many see as the deep degree of leftist bigotry one finds in the hrc manure pile, it is too apparent and the stench of hypocrisy is always present.

In all my trips down there, I have engaged but one demoncrap, and he certainly represented the odious bigotry of the left well. I was unaware of his leftist ugliness but soon found out by probing his opinions, and he provided ample opportunity for me to change gears from talking the talk to walking the walk. Such opportunities are precious, as one has the enemy of justice, freedom and decency in close proximity to one, where appropriate treatment can be downloaded on the beast.


Watching a lieberal stammer, stutter and wilt from the onslaught of the truth is a gratifying and warming experience.

[Edward Kennedy]

Westcoast woman is aware, as we all are, that with lieberals, it is always about the money...their greed, selfishness, avarice, and corruption has no equal.

[Maikeru]

Irwin Cotler is still huge spokesperson for the Jewish Community in Canada.

All the more reason to challenge Mr. Cotler's activism if opposed to his statements - especially if Jewish.

CHRC/Warman v. Citizen/Lemire has dragged on longer than WW2.
The case itself is the true face of 'human rights' activism - creating 'legal' precedents through blasphemy hearings activated by Sec 13.1 legislation.

There is a 'web of hate' active in Canada, known as'Anti-Racist Canada', which would have the public believe that Marc Lemire is spokesperson for the Nazi community in Canada.
'Freedom of Speech' as practiced by that site includes public examination of chat room messages from a decade ago, found on computer equipment seized in a police investigation which did not result in any criminal charge.

Never mind trifles such as how it migrated from police files to cyberspace, the purpose is to generate the impression that Mr. Lemire is as prominent among Nazis as Mr. Cotler is among Jews. Canada's Hyde and Jeckell.

A recent BC Hate Crimes press conference stretched the reach of 'white supremacists' to include incidents of 'international' violence.
This is the migration of CHRC/T' 'hate-speech' speech, based upon blasphemy hearings, into the criminal system.

More damage is being done to Canadian society by the actions of CHRC/T than would be the case if it were gone entirely.

Disband the CHRC/T. Open their books. Compensate their victims.
Move on.

[Hubert Mitchell]

The CHRC/T & Warman are winning because of all the money being spent in courts by people who can't afford it. They leave just enough room in their decisions for people to keep spending more in the courts. This has already happened in family, business & environmental court cases. We are dealing with the Hegelian Dialectic again.

[Narrow Back]

The CHRC/T & Warman are winning because of all the money being spent in courts by people who can't afford it. They leave just enough room in their decisions for people to keep spending more in the courts. This has already happened in family, business & environmental court cases. We are dealing with the Hegelian Dialectic again.

You're right. All of this nazis behind every rock is manufactured. The reality is very boring. But that doesn't stop these bastards.

[Maikeru]

CHRA Sec 13.1, the solution in search of problems, is founded on the word 'likely'.
Watch, as 'likely' migrates from CHRC to CHRT to Federal Court, where it becomes fact:

September 7, 2003 - CHRC employee Richard Warman files a CHRC Complaint on against Tomasz Winnicki.
Dec 12, 2003 - MP Irwin Cotler named Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada
July 11, 2005 - CHRTribunal accepts amendments to CHRC/Richard Warman v Winnicki
August 8/9 2005 - CHRTribunal Hearings CHRC/Richard Warman v Winnicki
August 8 - 12, 2005 - Federal Court Injunction Hearings CHRC v. Winnicki
October 4, 2005. - Federal Court issues an interlocutory injunction against Winnicki, pending outcome of CHRC/Richard Warman v Winnicki, stating, inter alia:

[42]In conclusion, ... the words complained of are so manifestly contrary to the letter and the spirit of section 13 of the CHRA that any finding to the contrary would be considered highly suspect. ... I am prepared to affirm that a reasonable panel of the Tribunal will most likely find the words to be in breach of section 13.
[43]...Considering the abject nature of the messages and their likely impact ... a delay of a few months before being able to utter such nonsense ...would be a small price to pay
[44]...despite the cardinal importance to be accorded to freedom of expression in our democracy,...

Dec 12, 2005 - CHRTribunal Hearing closing arguments CHRC/Richard Warman v Winnicki
Feb 6, 2006 MP Vic Teows named Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada
April 13, 2006 - CHRTribunal ruling released - Thomas Winnicki fined $6000, ordered to pay Richard Warman $5500, and to stop posting hateful messages on the internet
July 4, 2006 - Federal Court Hears CHRCommission v Winnicki Contempt of Court proceedings for period Oct 4, 2005 to April 13, 2006
July 12, 2006 - Federal Court judgment issued:

[49]In this case, TW ... has posted material that is entirely disrespectful of the Canadian judicial system let alone the Federal Court.... Given this, I find that his behaviour justifies a term of imprisonment of nine months.
JUDGMENT
1. I find Tomasz Winnicki guilty ... in that he continued to communicate, by means of the Internet, messages that are likely to expose persons to hatred or contempt... contrary to subsection 13(1) of the Canadian Human Rights Act..
2. As an appropriate penalty for this contempt of court, this Court orders that Tomasz Winnicki be sentenced to a nine month term of imprisonment.
3. This court further orders that Tomasz Winnicki pay the Applicant its costs on a solicitor and client basis

The spirit and intent of the SEC 13.1 'CHRC/Warman v. Winnicki 'solution' to blasphemer Thomaz Winnicki was to expose him to hatred and contempt

[Maikeru]

Bump for Justice Minister and Attorney General Rob Nicholson...