Mexico's Gun Supply and the 90 Percent Myth

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Postby backhoe » 10/ 08/ 11 6:58 am

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27. stoicheion

“And I’ve got complete confidence in the process to figure out who, in fact, was responsible for that decision [to launch Fast and Furious] and how it got made.”

Translation; We have a scapegoat lined up and as soon as the negotiations to buy his co-operation in falling on his sword are done, we’ll toss him off the wagon, Until then the wolves can just go hungry. Any wolf, er….journalist attempting to climb in the wagon will meet my attack dogs;
http://www.whitehousedossier.com/2011/1 ... -reporter/

I find it ironic that the response to ‘Fast and Furious’ is some fast and furious covering up. It has never worked in the past. Just ask Senator Hart why he wasn’t POTUS.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Hart

No, once the media sinks it teeth into a professional politician, it’s over. Even if teh won can pull CBS and it’s wolf off, the pack has the scent. It will take more then a strap hanger or three to feed the pack.
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Re: Mexico's Gun Supply and the 90 Percent Myth

Postby backhoe » 10/ 08/ 11 11:13 am

My, my, my- Komrade Zer0 is stepping all over his male equipment...http://pajamasmedia.com/instapundit/

BOB OWENS: Gunwalker: Dems Abandoning Ship? “The typical gun-control advocates don’t have the president’s and attorney general’s backs this time.”http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/gunwalker-dems-abandoning-ship/

1. waterwillows

If I understand this correctly, then it would appear that the democrats in the Oval Office are looking to undo the Constitution they are sworn to uphold?

Gun control…..or is it the sneaky attempt to disarm the people? Why is it so very important to the democrats that the people should be disarmed? They have risked a great deal, only to be caught.

There are some high places that smell very foul indeed.

PERSONALLY, I BLAME RACISM: Mark Steyn: Why don’t CNN, NPR, NY Times care about ‘dead Mexicans’?http://dailycaller.com/2011/10/07/mark-steyn-why-dont-cnn-npr-ny-times-care-about-dead-mexicans/
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Re: Mexico's Gun Supply and the 90 Percent Myth

Postby backhoe » 10/ 08/ 11 5:38 pm

I recommend going to the source because there are corroborating links embedded in the article. It's a cesspit:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/10/fast_and_furious_in_a_rotten_nutshell.html

October 7, 2011
Fast and Furious in a Rotten Nutshell
By Ronald Kolb

The latest in a series of revelations in the ongoing saga of the Fast and Furious scandal -- where more than 2,000 rifles were knowingly and willfully allowed to be transported untracked from the United States into Mexico -- is truly stunning.

A series of damning memos from 2010 was recently obtained by CBS News, and they indicate that Attorney General Eric Holder -- as well as several senior Justice Department officials -- were aware of the deadly program.

In one of Mr. Holder's weekly briefings in July of last year from Michael Walther, the director of the National Drug Intelligence Center, Mr. Walther had written Holder that the Phoenix-based operation was "responsible for the purchase of 1,500 firearms that were then supplied to Mexican drug trafficking cartels."

That October, Jason Weinstein, the deputy assistant attorney general of the Criminal Division, sent a colleague a memo concerning an upcoming press conference that his boss, Assistant Attorney General Lanny Breuer (who is a longtime friend and associate of Holder), would be attending.

"It's a tricky case, given the number of guns that have walked," wrote Weinstein.

Then, in October, Breuer himself reported to Holder that "Operation Fast and Furious" would soon be ready for a "takedown."

Fox News then obtained four more weekly briefings in July and August 2010 sent from Mr. Walther to Holder discussing Fast and Furious.

The problem for Mr. Holder is that just this past May, he told Congress while under oath that he had "probably heard about Fast and Furious over the last few weeks."

And only recently, Holder stated that no one in the upper levels of his department was involved. Since the release of the damaging memos, Justice Department spokespeople have given several spurious reasons to explain Holder's statements: that he was confused during his testimony, that he thought he was being asked about another investigation, that he doesn't see every memo that passes his desk. And after calls from Congress for a special counsel, a Justice spokesman attempted to fend off that plan by saying that once Holder had learned of the operation's "questionable tactics" earlier this year, he then "promptly asked the inspector general to investigate the matter."

Cynthia A. Schnedar is the acting inspector general, and just this past month, in yet another stunning revelation, it was discovered that she had released secret audio tapes of candid conversations from last March between Hope McAllister, an ATF (Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms) agent in the Phoenix office, and Andre Howard, owner of a Phoenix-area gun shop, who had been authorized by the ATF to sell weapons to known Mexican cartel members in the botched sting operation.

On one of the tapes, they discuss a third Fast and Furious rifle that was found at the scene of the murder of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry in a remote area of southern Arizona last December. It had been widely reported that only two rifles were found at the scene, but recent reports tell of a cover-up. The third rifle would have led to an FBI informant.

As for the tapes, it was discovered by congressional investigators that Schnedar had inexplicably given a copy to the U.S. attorney's office in Phoenix before she had even reviewed them. The tapes then ended up being shared with the ATF office there. Both those agencies are among the many entities under investigation in the ever-expanding scandal.

So just who, one may wonder, is Acting Inspector General Cynthia Schnedar?

Until last January, she was deputy inspector general at the Justice Department, having served in that post since June of 2010. When longtime Inspector General Glenn Fine retired from his post in January of this year, Schnedar, as had been expected, was named as acting inspector general on January 29.

But, as luck would have it, two days earlier, Iowa Senator Chuck Grassley went public in a letter to Assistant Attorney General Ronald Weich with his concerns about the killing of Brian Terry, which was immediately followed by another letter to Acting ATF Director Kenneth Melson on the 31st.

On February 1, the first press reports emerged on what would become a growing scandal.

On March 10, Attorney General Eric Holder made his first of many comments about the internal investigation, telling Texas Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison that he had "asked the Inspector General to try to get to the bottom of it."

"An investigation, an inquiry, is now underway," Holder added.

But should Cynthia Schnedar be the person to conduct the investigation?

It turns out that Ms. Schnedar has long and close ties to Mr. Holder. According to her biography on the Justice Department website, she became assistant U.S. attorney in Washington, D.C. in 1994. Eric Holder had become the U.S. attorney in Washington the previous year, so he in effect was Schnedar's boss from 1994 until 1997, when he left to become President Clinton's deputy attorney general. Holder would become a key player in the scandalous pardons of fugitive billionaire Marc Rich and members of the Puerto Rican nationalist terrorist group known as FALN.

But during Ms. Schnedar's tenure before Holder had departed, it happened that they had ended up working a number of cases together. According to the LexisNexis website, there were at least fourteen of them, usually at the appellate level. For Holder, it was more than just "in name only"; in some of those cases, they apparently co-filed legal briefs.

In one case, they had represented the ATF. In another, they represented both the ATF and DEA (Drug Enforcement Administration), an agency that has now also been linked to Fast and Furious.

Whenever either Eric Holder or President Obama is pressed on Fast and Furious, both refer to the Justice Department's internal investigation that happens to be headed by Ms. Schnedar.

After Holder's comment to Senator Hutchinson in March, he was later questioned by California Representative Darrell Issa at the now-infamous hearing of May 3, when he declared that he had only recently learned of Fast and Furious. He then added defensively that "there's an investigation underway." At that same hearing, when Utah Representative Jason Chaffetz began focusing on the death of Agent Terry, Holder said, "I asked the inspector general to look into that, and I'm waiting -- awaiting that report." Chaffetz then focused on ways to find out who may have known about or authorized the disastrous program. Holder said that that is "part of what the inspector general will be looking at -- who exactly was involved, what the level of knowledge was, who should be held accountable, if in fact there were mistakes that were made."

On May 4, Holder twice told Senator Grassley that the matter had been "referred to the inspector general for inspection."

Then, at a press conference on September 7, Holder proclaimed his innocence and attacked the congressional investigation. "The notion that somehow or other this reaches into the upper levels of the Justice Department is something that, at this point, is not supported by the facts." Holder added that "it's kind of something that certain members of Congress would like to see."

Holder then noted that he "took very seriously the allegations that were raised and asked the inspector general to conduct an investigation."

President Obama has also noted the internal investigation. In his first known public comments about the scandal on March 22, he told Jorge Ramos of Univision that neither he nor Holder had authorized the operation. Obama then stated, "[S]o what he [Holder]'s done is he's assigned an I.G., an inspector general, to investigate what exactly happened[.]"

At that point, Ramos interrupted and asked, "So who authorized it?" Obama answered that, "[w]ell, we don't have all the facts. That's why the I.G. is in business. To collect the facts."

At a press conference on June 29, Obama was asked by Chilean journalist Antonieta Cadiz about Fast and Furious. "The investigation is still pending. I'm not going to comment on a current investigation...we got to find out how that happened. As soon as the investigation is completed, I think appropriate actions will be taken."

At another press conference on October 6, and just days after the damaging new memos concerning Holder were released, Obama told Jake Tapper of ABC News that he had "complete confidence" in Holder, and that "he [Holder]'s assigned an inspector general to look into exactly how this happened...and I've got complete confidence in the process to figure out who, in fact, was responsible for that decision and how it got made."

And revelations continue to emerge about Fast and Furious. Three members of the White House national security staff, including Kevin O'Reilly, knew about the operation, but it's unclear just how much they knew. Recently released e-mails between ATF Agent William Newell and O'Reilly, however, show a deeper White House knowledge than previously thought.

Newell had e-mailed O'Reilly an arrow chart showing the flow of the "ultimate destination of firearms" which led from Arizona and extended throughout Mexico. Intriguingly, O'Reilly responded, "[D]id last year's Texas effort produce a similar graphic?" This follows reports from earlier this year of weapons being run through Houston ATF.

Twelve high-ranking current and former members of the Justice Department, including Holder's confidant Lanny Breuer, have also been asked for information by the House Oversight Committee.

In March 2010 (and seven months before the recently discovered memo was sent to Holder), Breuer was asked to attend a video conference at ATF headquarters in Washington which focused on Fast and Furious. He sent Justice Department attorney Joseph Cooley instead, and at that meeting Cooley stated that running guns into Mexico was an "acceptable practice."

Just five days later, Breuer authorized wiretaps for the operation, and then later traveled to Mexico to discuss the operation with ATF personnel. Mr. Cooley has refused to comment for this article; Mr. Breuer's office also had no comment.

Last summer, three key members of the Phoenix ATF were reassigned, but they still remain on the payroll. This was also the fate of Acting ATF Director Kenneth Melson. In June, numerous reports suggested that Melson would be served up as "the fall guy" by the Justice Department. However, on July 4, and without Holder's permission, he met with congressional investigators.

On July 21, Holder sent a letter to Congressman Issa and Senator Grassley demanding copies of Melson's testimony -- not only for himself, but strangely (and inappropriately) for Ms. Schnedar, who is supposedly independent of Holder.

In September, it was reported that ATF Agent John Dodson (who had serious qualms about the operation) had been ordered to purchase guns -- using taxpayer funds -- and sell weapons directly to suspected cartel members in an effort to "dirty him up."

And days after the incriminating memos involving Mr. Holder were released, B. Todd Jones, the new acting ATF director and friend of Holder since the 1990s, "reassigned" 11 more ATF personnel, adding that people need to "calm down" about the barrage of revelations.

Meanwhile, the horrors keep on growing. Two thousand grenade parts were allowed to cross the border. They could be used to construct at least 500 hand grenades.

In the fall of 2010, Mario Gonzalez, the brother of then-Chihuahua state prosecutor Patricia Gonzalez, was abducted and then eventually killed. A Fast and Furious weapon was allegedly used. Mexico's Attorney General Marisela Morales has still received no response from the Obama administration or any other U.S. official concerning the deadly operation.

In February of this year, U.S. Immigration Agent Jaime Zapata was killed south of the Texas border, and it's suspected that a Fast and Furious weapon was used. And the Los Angeles Times has reported that Fast and Furious weapons were linked to crimes in Mexico where 150 people have either been killed or injured.

The number of known violent crimes in the U.S. connected to the operation keeps increasing. By early September, the count had reached 21, including the killing of Brian Terry.

And in a separate (but strangely similar) program out of Tampa ATF dubbed "Operation Castaway," guns were run to violent gangs in Honduras. This led to a number of violent crimes in Puerto Rico and a homicide in Colombia.

As for Acting Inspector General Cynthia Schnedar, Congressman Issa told Greta Van Susteren of Fox News that Schnedar's action of releasing the tapes had betrayed the investigation. (He also noted that cooperation from the Justice Department was virtually nonexistent.)

In a recently released letter to Schnedar, Issa and Senator Grassley noted that the investigator's actions had "undermined and obstructed" their investigation (the Oversight Committee had also obtained copies of the tapes), and they demanded answers concerning her behavior.

After the first tape was made public by CBS News as a result of Schnedar's actions, her office released a highly dubious explanation: that the U.S. attorney's office in Phoenix needed them for the pending prosecution of drug traffickers.

There are several questions about Ms. Schnedar that beg to be answered.

First, as she well knew, the U.S. attorney's office in Phoenix was also a target of the investigation. Both the U.S. attorney and the assistant U.S. attorney have since left because of the scandal.

Second, should Ms. Schnedar have immediately recused herself from the Fast and Furious investigation because of her long and deep ties to Mr. Holder?

Third, when Ms. Schnedar began her employment as assistant U.S. attorney in Washington in 1994, was it Mr. Holder (then the U.S. attorney) who hired her?

Lastly, Federal Election Commission records show that Schnedar donated to the Democratic National Committee in 2005. Does she now think that was proper?

On a related note: I recently contacted Ms. Schnedar to ask those very questions. She angrily told me to call her office. No answers have been forthcoming from either source, including her spokesman, Jay Lerner.

And Mr. Obama and Mr. Holder are apparently leaving nothing to chance. On July 29, Obama nominated Michael Horowitz (who had previously worked at the Justice Department) to become the full-time inspector general. It turns out that in 2009, when Lanny Breuer was facing confirmation hearings before the Senate Judiciary Committee, Horowitz had sent them a personal recommendation on Breuer's behalf.

Finally, the Fast and Furious scandal has now become a large-scale criminal investigation. It has enveloped several agencies, including the Justice Department; the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms; the Federal Bureau of Investigation; the Drug Enforcement Administration; the U.S. attorney's office in Arizona; and now even the White House.

The fact that Eric Holder will likely never appoint a special counsel makes it even more imperative that the office of the Justice Department inspector general should be above reproach.
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Re: Mexico's Gun Supply and the 90 Percent Myth

Postby backhoe » 10/ 09/ 11 3:38 am

Look, we have a rogue, criminal "administration" in office.

Yeah, we tried to tell you before Zer0 conned his way in to office with all that Hopi Changi BS.

You called us RAAACIST! for pointing out the fraud had no accomplishments besides being a shakedown artist, running for office, and writing books about himself...

Now, besides spending all of your money, he's gotten a pile of Brown People killed- what are you going to do about it?

http://pajamasmedia.com/instapundit/

L.A. TIMES: Fast and Furious weapons were found in Mexico cartel enforcer’s home.http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-atf-guns-20111009,0,6431788.story

http://minx.cc/?post=322357

Under The Radar [John E.]

A lot of people are having a hard time embracing the theory that Operation Fast & Furious was nothing more than a backdoor attack on the second amendment. I understand why. It seems like too large a conspiracy to be believable and it's hard to wrap your head around that level of corruption and evil.

Then you read a story like this one.

http://minx.cc/?post=322354

A Fast & Furious Flashback [John E.]

Back on July 8th of this year, Kirsten Powers appeared on Special Report with Bret Baier and blindly defended the Administration's position on Fast & Furious. The interview struck me because I was surprised how cavalierly Powers admitted she was simply parroting what the Administration told her and she didn't seem to have any interest in learning anything beyond that. I made a mental note to revisit it when Fast & Furious gained a little more media attention.
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Re: Mexico's Gun Supply and the 90 Percent Myth

Postby backhoe » 10/ 09/ 11 3:17 pm

http://minx.cc/?post=322379

Eric Holder Throws a Hissy Fit [John E.]

Attorney General Eric Holder fired off a 5-page letter to congressional leaders yesterday. It was the healthy mix of whining, blame shifting, deliberate misrepresentations and bumbling incompetence we've come to expect from our fine Attorney General.

Senator Grassley has suggested that I was aware of Operation Fast and Furious from letters he provided to me on or about January 31, 2011 that were addressed to the former Acting Director of the ATF. However, those letters referred only to an ATF umbrella initiative on the Southwest Border that started under the prior Administration -- Project Gunrunner -- and not to Operation Fast and Furious.


So, Bush's fault?

Much has been made in the past few days about my congressional testimony earlier this year regarding Fast and Furious. My testimony was truthful and accurate and I have been consistent on this point throughout. I have no recollection of knowing about Fast and Furious or of hearing its name prior to the public controversy about it.


Eric, do you know who Sharyl Attkisson is? If not, you will.( links at source )

I simply cannot sit idly by as a Majority Member of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform suggests, as happened this week, that law enforcement and government employees who devote their lives to protecting our citizens be considered "accessories to murder." Such inflammatory rhetoric must be repudiated in the strongest possible terms.


Representative Paul Gosar shot back at Holder in an interview with the Daily Caller.

“It [Holder’s letter] is rhetoric. I think it’s funny that that’s the heat we take now when we’re in the focus of hearings and the focus of calls for his resignation,” Gosar told The Daily Caller. “[He says] ‘oooh, we want to sing Kumbayah and bring everybody together so that we can diffuse that.’ It’s also interesting that he and leadership in the Justice Department didn’t really exercise that in Arizona by reaching out and really trying to work on issues – they just continue to dictate accordingly."


Darrell Issa had a good line on Hannity Friday night when he said he wanted "change we can believe in at the Justice Department."

I wrote yesterday about the "under the radar" comment made by Obama to Sarah Brady regarding gun control. Well, Holder's letter had a similar eyebrow-raising comment.

As I have said, the fact that even a single gun was not interdicted in this operation and found a way to Mexico is unacceptable. Equally unacceptable however, is the fact that too many in Congress are opposed to any discussion of fixing loopholes in the laws that facilitate the staggering flow of guns each year across our border to the South.


What's interesting, beyond the staggering level of hypocrisy, is that Holder knows there are people that already suspect this was more about the second amendment and gun control than it ever was about investigating illegal gun trafficking. For him to take this position publicly, in a letter to Congress leads me to believe this might end up being his primary defense of the program. The walls are starting to close in on him and maybe that's all he has left. If that's the case, expect a lot of mud-slinging. Eric Holder doesn't strike me as the type of person to willingly fall on the sword.

Unthinkable corruption executed with criminal incompetence.

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2 Holder would be nice get, but this goes higher. And yes I mean to Obama.

8 The last quote is the kicker. It is the admission that this is about creating evidence to close the 'loopholes" that allow Americand to buy 'assault weapons' or indeed any weapon.

40 It was April 2009 that Obama in a Mexican visit started what appeared to be an attack on the Second Amendment leading with as usual a lie claiming that 90% of the arms in the hands of the Mexican murdering drug lords came from the US. The usual leftist Democrats took up the lead and used this as a new basis to attack the NRA and the Second Amendment. It appears that because this 90% figure was in danger of easy exposure as another Obama falsehood that perhaps was the reason Fast and Furious was started to retroactively support the gun control effort.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/10/fast-and-furious-high-powered-assault-weapons-were-seized-at-drug-cartel-enforcers-home/#comment-459558

#27 October 9, 2011 at 12:50 pm
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No way Fast and Furious is going away. It’s oBama’s and Holder’s ‘working on it under the radar’ gun control op and spells the beginning of the end for this corrupt/to/the/core administration. Apparently, Issa is issuing new subpoenas in its investigation of F/F this week:

http://thehill.com/video/in-the-news/18 ... un-program
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Re: Mexico's Gun Supply and the 90 Percent Myth

Postby backhoe » 10/ 10/ 11 3:31 pm

http://minx.cc/?post=322413

Read the whole, beautiful thing. It's a long-form version of "you lie!"

Issa to Holder: “You Own Fast and Furious”

Eric Holder: The GOP is being so mean about Operation Fast and Furious. Can't we just drop this thing and all get along. Look ... squirrel!

Darrell Issa: Please, continue, you were saying something about best intentions. What's the matter?

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For those who haven't seen it, here is a "Downfall" parody for Operation Fast and Furious:
http://tinyurl.com/69wya8l

37 The bad thing about this for SCOAMF is that no matter whether the economy improves or not, the longer he keeps Holder in position, the more damage it does him. Hundreds of people murdered will hang around to haunt him for a very long time. Plus there is Solyndra that will keep kicking him in the groin. SCOAMFcare costing more and more and death panels being revealed as distinct possibilities. If the economy somehow does miraculously improve, it will do so in spite of SCOAMF and his policies and he won't be able to spin it any other way. And hundreds of people will still be dead either by the malicious design of this administration or through abject incompetence.
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Re: Mexico's Gun Supply and the 90 Percent Myth

Postby backhoe » 10/ 11/ 11 10:33 am

BOB OWENS: Gunwalker: Issa Reveals Drug Enforcement Administration Involvement. “It was a joint operation in which DEA knew more than ATF.”http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/gunwalker-issa-reveals-drug-enforcement-administration-involvement/

2. HUSKY

“create a murderous reality to match White House rhetoric” – Isn’t this what goes on at the WH on a daily basis? Set the narrative (like the 90% lie) and then proceed to make it a reality by any means possible – the end justifies the means.

That’s the underlying principle of Gunwalker isn’t it?

Let’s look a little more closely at the stealth jihad in which all these appointed czars of Obama’s are engaged while we supposedly we have to sit by idly and pretend they’re doing something quite innocent. “Under the radar” are Obama’s own words; if he can attempt things like Gunwalker then he’s doing far more I reckon.
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Postby backhoe » 10/ 11/ 11 5:41 pm

http://pajamasmedia.com/instapundit/

Ruh-Roh! This is on CBS news. Guess the MBM can't ignore it any longer:

ANOTHER UPDATE: CBS News: “Gunwalking” Subpoena For Eric Holder Imminent.http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/10/11/earlyshow/main20118456.shtml

by borakobama October 11, 2011 4:48 PM EDT
It was a planned operation. You dont put weapons in the Mexican drug cartels hands without tracking devices if your tracking them. Also if you are not allowed to follow them into Mexico how would you track them?
The plan was suppose to be under the radar as Obama stated,
bought & paid for with funds in the stimulus. Schumer, Clinton, Obama, Holder & the like pushed the untruth that the majority of weapons that were killing people in Mexico were coming from the US. They had to put the weapons in their hands to make it so...
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Re: Mexico's Gun Supply and the 90 Percent Myth

Postby backhoe » 10/ 12/ 11 4:01 am

A little bird told me...

Issa to Holder: “You OWN Fast and Furious;” Resignation Calls Grow
http://michellemalkin.com/2011/10/10/is ... d-furious/


Having worked in every organization from blue collar to white collar, I can tell you this:

The Boss Man sets the level of corruption.

Every.

Single.

Time.

A good one won't tolerate any. A bad one? Lets it ride and hopes his underlings don't get caught.

When they do?

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Holder is about to go under the bus. Will it save Teh JEF?
( The Jug Eared F*ckstick, for those of you not in the know... )

That depends on how much The Make Believe Media is willing to reveal now that their cheapjack New Improved Black Jesus has been shown to be a fraud.

We tried to warn them...

I denounce myself for noticing that both Holder & Bammy are sorta black... when it suits them...

RAAACIST!

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Breaking: new evidence shows Hillary a mastermind behind Gunwalker

http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in ... -gunwalker
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We tried to tell you...
You screamed RAAACIST!

The Bamster is the most corrupt that a corrupt Chicago Machine could produce...

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October 12, 2011

ROBERT FARAGO: Gunwalker Is Only The Tip Of A Scandal Iceberg. “For one thing, the ATF didn’t ‘lose’ some 2,000 firearms to Mexican gun smugglers. The bureau intentionally allowed firearms to “walk” from U.S. gun stores to members of the Sinaloa drug cartel. For another, Fast and Furious is only one spoke in an entire wheel of extralegal intrigue.”http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/oct/12/gunwalker-is-only-the-tip-of-a-scandal-iceberg/
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Re: Mexico's Gun Supply and the 90 Percent Myth

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Obama Spoke About “Fast & Furious” Before Holder Claimed He Knew.http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/10/13/obama_spoke_about_fast__furious_before_holder_claimed_he_knew.html

IT’S NOT JUST “GUNWALKER:” CBS: Don’t forget Grenadewalker, too. “ATF let thousands of grenades cross the border into Mexico at roughly the same time the Mexican drug cartels were using grenades to blow up a casino and kill dozens of people.”http://hotair.com/archives/2011/10/14/cbs-dont-forget-grenadewalker-too/
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Re: Mexico's Gun Supply and the 90 Percent Myth

Postby backhoe » 10/ 14/ 11 7:18 pm

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/10/say-good-bye-eric-obamas-march-interview-undermines-holder-testimony-to-congress-video/

Say Good-Night, Eric… Obama’s March Interview Undermines Holder Testimony to Congress (Video)
Posted by Jim Hoft on Friday, October 14, 2011, 4:11 PM


In May 2011, Attorney General Eric Holder told a Congressional committee under oath that he had just heard about Fast and Furious operation “in the last few weeks.” It later was revealed that Eric Holder had received at least 5 different emails, addressed to him, in 2010 concerning the gun-running program.

Then there’s this…
Back in March 2011, President Obama told CNN Espanol this:

“I heard in the news about this story where, uh, Fast and Furious, uh, allegedly, uh, guns were being run into Mexico and ATF knew about it but didn’t apprehend those who had sent it. Eric Holder, the Attorney General has been very clear he knew nothing about this. We’ve assigned an IG, an Inspector General, to investigate it.

The president’s interview months before Holder’s testimony directly conflicts with the AG’s testimony under oath.
Not good.

Breitbart TV has the video:

Links & video at source...

#11 October 14, 2011 at 4:50 pm
progressoverpeace commented:

Does anyone really doubt, at all, that something as stupid and clarly illegal as Fast and Furious came from anywhere but the top of this America-hating adminsitration?

THEG: Remember that "under the radar" crack the Jug Eared Jesus made to the Brady Bunch?
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Re: Mexico's Gun Supply and the 90 Percent Myth

Postby backhoe » 10/ 15/ 11 9:37 am

Just remember- Zer0's "nice little war" in Uganda is to distract you from this:

BRAD KOZAK: ATF Death Watch 104: Timelines and Truthiness. “The first thing to know when you’ve dug yourself into a deep hole is to stop digging. My father wasn’t the first to say these words, but he used to say them to me. A lot. And it’s good advice. It seems though, that every time Eric Holder opens his mouth, he’s so busy sticking his foot in it, that he can’t win for losin.’ Case in point, that whole timeline thing.”http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2011/10/brad-kozak/atf-death-watch-104-timelines-and-truthiness/

...and a few other things. Like why you can't find a job, despite all the trillions he's bribed his friends with...
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