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Postby dpwozney » 04/ 27/ 11 4:37 pm

Fairwarning wrote:And some I know are not evangelicals in the 20s but older. I know of husband and wives being members of Baptist, Free Methodist, even Pentecostal churches who vote liberal both federally and provincially just about every election. I have a friend who is retired, a Baptist, who votes NDP...makes me want to :barf:

I know another man in his early 50s, works at a Christian rehab center near Ottawa ON, a real holy roller type, member of the Brethren Chruch(I'm not even sure of all their beliefs) and told me he votes liberal or NDP. This is a person who gives you the impression that God has placed a halo over his head but yet he is sympathetic towards islam, believes in pro-choice, hates Harper and his right wingers etc etc....confusing moron really to talk to in my opinion and in the end a person you want to walk away from or slap.

In my opinion, a lot of "Christians" have no social causes and have very weak political ideologies.

Are you claiming that any of the individuals, that you refer to above, really are Christians? If so, why?
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Postby RedDog » 04/ 27/ 11 4:58 pm

Evangelical voters are never going to elect anyone again in this country, not even in Alberta. It's a hollow and pointless threat. They carry virtually no power, possibly less than ravers or homosexuals now.
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Postby Connie Fournier » 04/ 27/ 11 5:09 pm

RedDog wrote:Evangelical voters are never going to elect anyone again in this country, not even in Alberta. It's a hollow and pointless threat. They carry virtually no power, possibly less than ravers or homosexuals now.


Perhaps we don't have enough power to elect anyone. But, perhaps we have the power to see that someone doesn't get a majority.
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Postby RedDog » 04/ 27/ 11 5:15 pm

Connie Fournier wrote:
RedDog wrote:Evangelical voters are never going to elect anyone again in this country, not even in Alberta. It's a hollow and pointless threat. They carry virtually no power, possibly less than ravers or homosexuals now.


Perhaps we don't have enough power to elect anyone. But, perhaps we have the power to see that someone doesn't get a majority.


Good point.
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Postby tanpro » 04/ 27/ 11 5:35 pm

Connie Fournier wrote:
RedDog wrote:Evangelical voters are never going to elect anyone again in this country, not even in Alberta. It's a hollow and pointless threat. They carry virtually no power, possibly less than ravers or homosexuals now.


Perhaps we don't have enough power to elect anyone. But, perhaps we have the power to see that someone doesn't get a majority.


Yes - and by the looks of it, that would mean an NDP/Lib coalition with Taliban Jack in charge.

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Postby Connie Fournier » 04/ 27/ 11 6:01 pm

tanpro wrote:
Connie Fournier wrote:
RedDog wrote:Evangelical voters are never going to elect anyone again in this country, not even in Alberta. It's a hollow and pointless threat. They carry virtually no power, possibly less than ravers or homosexuals now.


Perhaps we don't have enough power to elect anyone. But, perhaps we have the power to see that someone doesn't get a majority.


Yes - and by the looks of it, that would mean an NDP/Lib coalition with Taliban Jack in charge.

Thanks again.


I've been very clear about the things I want from the CPC...at a minimum, that they leave our free speech and our privacy alone. They didn't care enough about my vote to do what is right, so they don't get it this time.

Don't blame me.
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Postby Soulforger » 05/ 01/ 11 8:21 pm

tanpro wrote:
Connie Fournier wrote:
RedDog wrote:Evangelical voters are never going to elect anyone again in this country, not even in Alberta. It's a hollow and pointless threat. They carry virtually no power, possibly less than ravers or homosexuals now.


Perhaps we don't have enough power to elect anyone. But, perhaps we have the power to see that someone doesn't get a majority.


Yes - and by the looks of it, that would mean an NDP/Lib coalition with Taliban Jack in charge.

Thanks again.


Sorry but your wrong. Iggy can't support Hack because that would further weaken the Libs. Iggy was clear last week that he is willing to prop up Harper if Harper gets a minority.
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Postby Charles J. White » 05/ 01/ 11 8:26 pm

Listen, last time I checked, abortion was legal in Canada - this is never going to change, why not choose a different battle?
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Postby Gerry T. Neal » 05/ 02/ 11 8:20 am

Charles J. White wrote:Listen, last time I checked, abortion was legal in Canada - this is never going to change, why not choose a different battle?


Mr. White, the last time I checked, Canada, the United States, and every other country in the world were socialist welfare-states - this is never going to change, why not choose a different battle?

Indisputable Facts:

When a sperm fertilizes an egg and mitosis begins a new life has begun.

If the sperm and egg are human the new life is also human - it possesses a complete set of human chromosomes.

Abortion is therefore the termination of a human life. Terminating a human life is murder except in a handful of very specific circumstances (when it is accidental, when it is punishment carried out by the state for capital crimes such as murder, when it is done by an individual in self-defense, or when it is done by soldiers in war in defense of their country).

The very purpose of their being law in the first place is undermined if the law tolerates murder. The present situation in Canada, where abortion is not only legal, but available to whoever wants it at the taxpayers expense, is intolerable. As bad as socialism and welfarism are, they are second, even third or fourth rate concerns, behind the problem of legal murder.
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Postby T.G. » 05/ 02/ 11 10:32 am

Gerry T. Neal wrote:The very purpose of their being law in the first place is undermined if the law tolerates murder. The present situation in Canada, where abortion is not only legal, but available to whoever wants it at the taxpayers expense, is intolerable. As bad as socialism and welfarism are, they are second, even third or fourth rate concerns, behind the problem of legal murder.


Thank you, sir. You laid it out nicely in black and white. The right to life must always be the primary issue. It wouldn't take much more the Supreme Court or a national legislature to arbitrarily disenfranchise any other segment of humanity at will since they have done so with the preborn -- perhaps people with blue eyes could be executed at will, etc. We've already seen that happen with those of color and women, who weren't considered "persons" in a legal sense and thus were treated as less than human. The GDP, taxation, etc. have to take a backseat to dire issues like these.
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