If FDers aren't voting for CPC who are you voting for?

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Postby Connie Fournier » 04/ 16/ 11 2:23 pm

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drummer wrote:My biggest beef with CPC is that the main promise of the formation reform party -grassroot politics- have all but disappeared. If you want a party where decisions are made by a handful of party operators and PMO with no regard for what the constituents want, where a candidate can be parachuted into a riding against the opposition of the local riding association, where promises to the grassroot supporters are broken because the top brass don't like them, where the political machinery is more important than the people they should be serving, then what exactly is the difference between CPC and LPC? Just gun registery? Rest assured that a party which is not operating based on principles will not honor any promises made to you.


Who's fault is that :-k

If it has disappeared it did so because it was allowed to and we have only ourselves to blame.


I refuse to take the blame for that. I have done all of the kicking and screaming and ranting and raving I could do. I put my name forward for the policy committee and got pushed out, I ran for the nomination and had enough of my voters turned away at the door to lose it for me. I brought a motion to the first Convention and had Stephen Harper put the kibosh on it before it could even hit the floor. I helped organize a campaign at the Winnipeg Convention to encourage delegates for vote for the policy to abolish Section 13, and it was wildly successful, but Harper ignored it.

Short of grabbing Stephen Harper by the scruff of the neck and stuffing him in a closet, I can't think of ANYTHING else I could have done to prevent what has happened.

The only think I know to do is try to make sure he isn't given the unlimited power of a majority.
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Postby Jean » 04/ 16/ 11 10:42 pm

it was so much easier to decide back when it was black and white. Liberals BAD, Conservatives GOOD.

Now it's more like deciding in beetween black and grey. Every party have serious flaws.

Perhaps the best thing would be a CPC minority kept in check by an NDP opposition...
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Postby Angleland » 04/ 16/ 11 11:29 pm

Jean wrote:it was so much easier to decide back when it was black and white. Liberals BAD, Conservatives GOOD.

Now it's more like deciding in beetween black and grey. Every party have serious flaws.

Perhaps the best thing would be a CPC minority kept in check by an NDP opposition...


I find myself agreeing with you frequently these days.

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Postby JOE HUEGLIN » 04/ 17/ 11 12:54 am

"The only think I know to do is try to make sure he isn't given the unlimited power of a majority."


Agreed 100%

"Perhaps the best thing would be a CPC minority kept in check by an NDP opposition..."

A CPC minority May 2nd will see probably the Harper Government unable to command a majority in the House of Commons. Why? The other parties will face the option of a continuance of being played with one against the other and the CPC agenda furthered thereby with little compromise and tactics of an antagonizing nature.

It would be cleaner if there was a Liberal minority forming a Government. with or without this there would be a Liberal government working with other parties to pass legislation on a consensus basis should the Harperites not obtain the majority.

There could be a coalition, a Government/Cabinet with NDP Ministers as well as Liberal but not as likely.

Most interesting will be how the now CPC controlled Senate will act.

If a CPC majority, a rubber stamp of Harper's Commons agenda. If what I suggest as the likelihood if no majority, what would y'all think would be the 'structions coming from the OPO?

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Postby Charles J. White » 04/ 17/ 11 4:48 am

Charles J. White wrote:I would like to vote for this guy, he understands fried chicken and racing better then anyone I know

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Postby westcoast woman » 04/ 17/ 11 12:33 pm

I have to hold my nose and vote CPC for one reason only, Liberal Justice Ministers have all been so terrible. I will not donate time or money for this gutless crew.
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Postby Neocon Recovery » 04/ 17/ 11 10:13 pm

I have a slightly different choice: I live in Winnipeg North, usually a yellow dog NDP riding, and at best an NDP v Liberal dogfight. Voting CPC is a minority vote anyway, with the only real consequence of my vote is which party receives my electoral subsidy. Still undecided, but leaning CPC unless we get a last minute Libertarian candidate. Currently we have Liberal MP Kevin Lamoreux, NDP Rebecca Blaikie (Bill's daughter), a relatively unknown CPC candidate and Green and Communist bottomfeeders.
Almost not worth going out.
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Postby Connie Fournier » 04/ 18/ 11 4:57 am

Neocon Recovery wrote:I have a slightly different choice: I live in Winnipeg North, usually a yellow dog NDP riding, and at best an NDP v Liberal dogfight. Voting CPC is a minority vote anyway, with the only real consequence of my vote is which party receives my electoral subsidy. Still undecided, but leaning CPC unless we get a last minute Libertarian candidate. Currently we have Liberal MP Kevin Lamoreux, NDP Rebecca Blaikie (Bill's daughter), a relatively unknown CPC candidate and Green and Communist bottomfeeders.
Almost not worth going out.


My personal preference would be to see the CPC go back in with pretty much exactly the same number of seats. I'm not opposed to the CPC, just to the idea of Harper wielding majority power. If I had a good Conservative MP, I would vote for him/her. But, I'm in a riding where I have nothing in common with the CPC candidate, and a vote for her could result in a CPC pickup. So, I'm not voting for her.
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Postby JOE HUEGLIN » 04/ 18/ 11 6:40 am

My personal preference would be to see the CPC go back in with pretty much exactly the same number of seats. I'm not opposed to the CPC, just to the idea of Harper wielding majority power. If I had a good Conservative MP, I would vote for him/her. But, I'm in a riding where I have nothing in common with the CPC candidate, and a vote for her could result in a CPC pickup. So, I'm not voting for her.


Those in closely contested Ridings must consider do they wish a majority or minority for Harper May 2nd .

Select which candidate, Dipper or Lieberal, is the strongest contender, hold your nose and vote for that person-liking as an individual or not.

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