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Postby styky » 02/ 04/ 11 1:13 pm

Supreme Court sides with unilingual traffic ticket claim
Friday, February 4, 2011
Alberta man should have received ticket in both official languages


http://www2.macleans.ca/2011/02/04/supr ... ket-claim/
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Postby RedDog » 02/ 04/ 11 1:14 pm

Alberta has to get out.
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Postby dwday » 02/ 04/ 11 2:01 pm

As usual, the media has completely misrepresented the case. The ruling on the traffic ticket was made by an Alberta provincial court in June 2007 and was not appealed by the province, and was not at issue before the Supreme Court. That decision was based on guarantees in the "north-west territories act" & other constitutional documents that date to before Alberta existed as a political entity, and has nothing to do with 'official bilingualism'.

The only thing the Supreme Court ruled on in this case was whether the plaintiff was entitled to costs for the case he won in Alberta provincial court. He was.
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Postby RedDog » 02/ 04/ 11 2:10 pm

That's fine and dandy except that I'm no more interested in the Northwest Territorial Act or whatever the colonizing rape of this region took place under what name in the past than I am of the pretend Troot-Owe constitution.
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Postby winespius » 02/ 04/ 11 2:12 pm

The french take over continues....Alberta started issuing bilingual birth certs last year...even though french is #4 in usage and the jurisdiction is unilingual english ...
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Postby dwday » 02/ 04/ 11 2:23 pm

RedDog wrote:That's fine and dandy except that I'm no more interested in the Northwest Territorial Act or whatever the colonizing rape of this region took place under what name in the past than I am of the pretend Troot-Owe constitution.


Wasn't trying to suggest otherwise, RedDog, just wanted to keep the facts straight. The media is absolutely pathetic when it comes to reporting on legal matters...

...and science, and religion, and history...ah, forget it. I don't much care about their opinions, but it pisses me off when they can't even look up a fact. In this case, the author of the article obviously didn't even take ten minutes out of his busy day to read the decision he was writing about.
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Postby Smaug » 02/ 04/ 11 2:28 pm

dwday wrote:As usual, the media has completely misrepresented the case. The ruling on the traffic ticket was made by an Alberta provincial court in June 2007 and was not appealed by the province, and was not at issue before the Supreme Court. That decision was based on guarantees in the "north-west territories act" & other constitutional documents that date to before Alberta existed as a political entity, and has nothing to do with 'official bilingualism'.

The only thing the Supreme Court ruled on in this case was whether the plaintiff was entitled to costs for the case he won in Alberta provincial court. He was.


So, the Alberta government, quite sensibly, never spent a dime on the case. The weirdo was fined as much as it took for him to get his ten bucks back from the provincial court case. Next time I'll bet he just pays the traffic fine.
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Postby dwday » 02/ 04/ 11 3:05 pm

Smaug wrote:
dwday wrote:As usual, the media has completely misrepresented the case. The ruling on the traffic ticket was made by an Alberta provincial court in June 2007 and was not appealed by the province, and was not at issue before the Supreme Court. That decision was based on guarantees in the "north-west territories act" & other constitutional documents that date to before Alberta existed as a political entity, and has nothing to do with 'official bilingualism'.

The only thing the Supreme Court ruled on in this case was whether the plaintiff was entitled to costs for the case he won in Alberta provincial court. He was.


So, the Alberta government, quite sensibly, never spent a dime on the case. The weirdo was fined as much as it took for him to get his ten bucks back from the provincial court case. Next time I'll bet he just pays the traffic fine.


No, the Alberta government fought the case in provincial court, and the 'weirdo' racked up huge legal bills in the course of winning it. It's a long and convoluted story, all spelled out in the decision, but the short version is that the provincial court ruled in his favour, and order the province to cover his legal costs, in excess of $120,000. The province accepted the decision on the ticket, but appealed the costs. They lost.

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Postby PoliticallyIncorrect » 02/ 04/ 11 4:09 pm

In a similar case last week, a New Brunswick judge acquitted a man of drunk driving after he claimed he wasn’t offered the option to be arrested in English. That’s despite the fact that the man, Donat Robichaud, is a francophone who lives in a predominantly French-speaking area of the province and he understood the police’s instructions.

Each day I have more and more contempt for the legal system.
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Postby centrestage » 02/ 04/ 11 6:25 pm

PoliticallyIncorrect wrote:
In a similar case last week, a New Brunswick judge acquitted a man of drunk driving after he claimed he wasn’t offered the option to be arrested in English. That’s despite the fact that the man, Donat Robichaud, is a francophone who lives in a predominantly French-speaking area of the province and he understood the police’s instructions.

Each day I have more and more contempt for the legal system.


Same thing is going on in Acadian New Brunswick since they have taken over at the expense of Anglos.

Dont believe it. Just read the following NB Anglo Society website for the discrimination/hatred against anything anglo.
http://www.asnb.ca/
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Postby Harry » 02/ 04/ 11 11:49 pm

PoliticallyIncorrect wrote:
In a similar case last week, a New Brunswick judge acquitted a man of drunk driving after he claimed he wasn’t offered the option to be arrested in English. That’s despite the fact that the man, Donat Robichaud, is a francophone who lives in a predominantly French-speaking area of the province and he understood the police’s instructions.

Each day I have more and more contempt for the legal system.


I feel the same way. I would love to see French excluded in every province but Quebec. I would love to see all the other provinces boycott Quebec until they leave the country and form their own little country.
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