Why do my son's books tell him all men are useless?

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Postby Maestro_T » 09/ 29/ 10 10:30 am

Very disappointing article. The guy craps out at the end and accepts that men are useless and a bunch of screw-ups.

I wonder, did he or others ever bother to think that maybe our societies are falling apart because men aren't acting like men anymore? Maybe because we're trying to include bullshit like "empathy" into systems that have no business having empathy in them? Or that women have had a negative effect in proportion to their increasing role?

Just sayin'....

Incidentally, it's no secret that the greatest female leaders (and there have been a few, and those that were, were often superior to their male counterparts) were/are said to act more like men than most men.
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Postby sturmgeshutz » 09/ 29/ 10 10:32 am

CrunchyCon wrote:
One Truth wrote:Good. Now teach them to spell favour with a u. We cannot allow the degradation of language, for it is on right language that right thought rests and on right thought that rests right action; and upon right action, salvation.


On their side of the border, there's no "u".
Borders are no excuse for proper english.
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Postby Maestro_T » 09/ 29/ 10 10:42 am

sturmgeshutz wrote:
CrunchyCon wrote:
One Truth wrote:Good. Now teach them to spell favour with a u. We cannot allow the degradation of language, for it is on right language that right thought rests and on right thought that rests right action; and upon right action, salvation.


On their side of the border, there's no "u".
Borders are no excuse for proper english.


And when a kid goes to class in the US, writes "favour," and gets marks deducted for writing it incorrectly because the teacher doesn't know any better, what then?

It's not like Canadian English is actually identical to British English; it mixes both American and British.

There was also the argument I read once, in the preface of a dictionary no less, that it would be questionable to assume that one country which has a larger number of speakers of a given language than the one from which the language originated is not actually speaking a proper version of it.

English spelling is a disaster anyway. Of all the languages I have studied, there isn't one that has as large a discrepancy between how a word is written and how it is pronounced. (Those who might use French as an example should note that for the most part, it follows given rules, whereas English does not.)
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Postby NeoLuddite » 09/ 29/ 10 12:12 pm

Maestro_T wrote:Very disappointing article. The guy craps out at the end and accepts that men are useless and a bunch of screw-ups.

I wonder, did he or others ever bother to think that maybe our societies are falling apart because men aren't acting like men anymore? Maybe because we're trying to include bullshit like "empathy" into systems that have no business having empathy in them? Or that women have had a negative effect in proportion to their increasing role?

Just sayin'....

Incidentally, it's no secret that the greatest female leaders (and there have been a few, and those that were, were often superior to their male counterparts) were/are said to act more like men than most men.


If one thinks about this - the subtle yet pervasive influence of the Judaic matriarchal culture upon western society is obvious. The pendulum has swung from misogony to misandry.

That said - Neither should be condoned.

<sigh>
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Postby One Truth » 09/ 29/ 10 1:55 pm

Maestro_T wrote:
sturmgeshutz wrote:
CrunchyCon wrote:
One Truth wrote:Good. Now teach them to spell favour with a u. We cannot allow the degradation of language, for it is on right language that right thought rests and on right thought that rests right action; and upon right action, salvation.


On their side of the border, there's no "u".
Borders are no excuse for proper english.


And when a kid goes to class in the US, writes "favour," and gets marks deducted for writing it incorrectly because the teacher doesn't know any better, what then?


It is within living memory that Americans spelled properly. The distortion of the language there is relatively new. And then, before you know it, everybody is stupid and Barack Obama gets elected.
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Postby mingless » 09/ 29/ 10 4:31 pm

sturmgeshutz wrote:
CrunchyCon wrote:
One Truth wrote:Good. Now teach them to spell favour with a u. We cannot allow the degradation of language, for it is on right language that right thought rests and on right thought that rests right action; and upon right action, salvation.


On their side of the border, there's no "u".
Borders are no excuse for proper english.


1) Don't forget to capitalize proper names (e.g., "English").

2) American and British English probably have at least an equal claim to the title of "Standard English" - not "proper English" as that term has no meaning. British English may have come first (albeit not in its current configuration), but the American version is more widely spoken and taught.

3) Our salvation rests on proper English?
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Postby PoliticallyIncorrect » 09/ 29/ 10 4:49 pm

If one thinks about this - the subtle yet pervasive influence of the Judaic matriarchal culture upon western society is obvious. The pendulum has swung from misogony to misandry.
How is Judaic culture matriarchal?
Perhaps you are confusing it with matrilineal?
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Postby Peter O'Donnell » 09/ 29/ 10 5:11 pm

Here's what you do -- you get a woman to tell him that men are not useless (because women communicate well and we don't).

(it's a joke)
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Postby Hubert Mitchell » 09/ 29/ 10 5:48 pm

The reason they bad mouth men is because they want the family destroyed. Control women and you can control many men, control children and you control women. The system needs to make women and children look down on men to have them be hyper-demanding of men. Then women will wait longer to have a family and children, while at the same time alienating men from such women.

Feminism is for depopulation for it makes women have jobs, do sports and play the field looking for Mr. Perfect (like of the Hollywood boob tube demands) while they are at their most attractive and capable of having kids. Then when they are older and less capable of having kids the time clock makes women less attractive to men in a host of ways and then women are toast. The hormones in food and products make young girls reach puberty sooner and make the same females barren to have kids sooner too. Thus time is not on women's side "to do it all" and they come for a family when they are jaded, demanding, barren and old. They have been duped by there need to be part of the group (herd) and follow fashion.

Men have been duped by the playboy lifestyle & porn into not thinking about what makes a nice woman on the inside. We must wake up or let 5th avenue lead the next generation into the "global governance" agenda further. The statists want it all and fund both parties and always move further down the road to destroying the family. Abortion will not be stopped by the conservative parties and the left will turn on women when the men are totally gone from women's lives.
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Postby NeoLuddite » 09/ 29/ 10 7:47 pm

Following comment are not mine! Excerpted from

http://news.mensactivism.org/articles/0 ... 5218.shtml

When women "vote," they transfer their expectation of protection and care from the men in their personal lives - fathers, brothers, beaus, husbands, sons - to the State; the inevitable result is a massive growth in State power, the destruction of the family, and the redundancy of males. The only human institution capable of resisting the power of the State is the family; when it is destroyed, the State becomes all-powerful, and men are reduced to slaves, providing the same goods and services as before, but for the State, which redistributes them to its favored friends...
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Postby One Truth » 09/ 29/ 10 10:15 pm

NeoLuddite wrote:Following comment are not mine! Excerpted from

http://news.mensactivism.org/articles/0 ... 5218.shtml

When women "vote," they transfer their expectation of protection and care from the men in their personal lives - fathers, brothers, beaus, husbands, sons - to the State; the inevitable result is a massive growth in State power, the destruction of the family, and the redundancy of males. The only human institution capable of resisting the power of the State is the family; when it is destroyed, the State becomes all-powerful, and men are reduced to slaves, providing the same goods and services as before, but for the State, which redistributes them to its favored friends...


This is exactly right. Nancy Pelosi has said before how her work in government is an extension of her motherhood.
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Postby Maestro_T » 09/ 30/ 10 2:25 am

NeoLuddite wrote:
Maestro_T wrote:Very disappointing article. The guy craps out at the end and accepts that men are useless and a bunch of screw-ups.

I wonder, did he or others ever bother to think that maybe our societies are falling apart because men aren't acting like men anymore? Maybe because we're trying to include bullshit like "empathy" into systems that have no business having empathy in them? Or that women have had a negative effect in proportion to their increasing role?

Just sayin'....

Incidentally, it's no secret that the greatest female leaders (and there have been a few, and those that were, were often superior to their male counterparts) were/are said to act more like men than most men.


If one thinks about this - the subtle yet pervasive influence of the Judaic matriarchal culture upon western society is obvious. The pendulum has swung from misogony to misandry.

That said - Neither should be condoned.

<sigh>


That's right, neither should be condoned. I cringe when I watch old programming and there are obviously misogynistic comments being made (if it's balanced with misandrous comments, then it's okay).

I can't say I understand what you're talking about regarding Judaic matriarchal culture.
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Postby BlawBlaw » 09/ 30/ 10 3:16 am

chainrock wrote:most TV commercials I've seen depict men as idiots who are incapable of functioning in society without a woman to guide the way, they generally the butt of jokes to the giggling female masses. These ads are not onlt selling a product, they are promoting a negative stereotype, it's another form of the 'Big Lie' in my view.


Women are more likely to be at home watching TV, and then spend their husband's paycheque. That's not a stereotype, just a statistical fact.
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Postby BlawBlaw » 09/ 30/ 10 3:22 am

mingless wrote:2) American and British English probably have at least an equal claim to the title of "Standard English" - not "proper English" as that term has no meaning. British English may have come first (albeit not in its current configuration), but the American version is more widely spoken and taught.


The Chinese are moving towards Canadian English. They want to use American pronunciation and vocabulary but without deealing with all the jingoist crap in US ESL textbooks. Previously, they relied on standard British English. Most of the CCTV 9 (China's English language television station) talk with British accents, but that is changing.
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Postby BlawBlaw » 09/ 30/ 10 3:50 am

NeoLuddite wrote:Following comment are not mine! Excerpted from

http://news.mensactivism.org/articles/0 ... 5218.shtml

When women "vote," they transfer their expectation of protection and care from the men in their personal lives - fathers, brothers, beaus, husbands, sons - to the State; the inevitable result is a massive growth in State power, the destruction of the family, and the redundancy of males. The only human institution capable of resisting the power of the State is the family; when it is destroyed, the State becomes all-powerful, and men are reduced to slaves, providing the same goods and services as before, but for the State, which redistributes them to its favored friends...


The voting patterns sort of bear that out. The further left you go on the political spectrum, the more women you find voting for that party.

Plus, you can play with this chart (government spending as as percentage of GDP):

http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/dow ... =c&local=c

Ignore the spikes for the the major wars: Civil, WWI and WWII. Note that women got the vote in 1920. I don't have the data set to do a proper linear regression, but you can eyeball the trendline from 1792 to 1920, and then another trend line from 1920 to present.

This one is even more pronounced (government spending per capita in constant 2005 dollars):

http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/dow ... =c&local=c

It's called the "nanny" state for a reason.
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