The Use of Fascist Tactics by the System

Postby Fabulous Fred » 08/ 02/ 10 5:45 pm

You are onto something big Edward. You have my respect for your work and your dedication.

The reports you are making to us demonstrate what many people know but will not confront because of the David/Goliath aspect of it.

Land Owners Associations are far far more than I ever suspected them to be. I may need to become involved with one.
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Postby Edward Kennedy » 08/ 02/ 10 8:58 pm

Fabulous Fred wrote:You are onto something big Edward. You have my respect for your work and your dedication.

The reports you are making to us demonstrate what many people know but will not confront because of the David/Goliath aspect of it.

Land Owners Associations are far far more than I ever suspected them to be. I may need to become involved with one.


I have some helpers in this who I am finding are indispensable.

Latest find is on Trevor Dagilis the KIngston area manager of the MOE.

Read this and note the email.

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Just wanted to let you know that you have an awesome web site…I never knew that warm fuzzy people also had a sense of humour!!! (I love the jokes section—as politically incorrect as they are!)

As non-commercial as I am, your website has tempted me to find your magazine (after all, if your website is this good, your magazine must be outstanding!!)…

Trevor Dagilis, dagilis@civil.queensu.ca

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Funny, seems like a civil engineer? What credentials would this MOE manager have applicable to MOE work if this is in fact the one and same Trevor Dagilis?

Hmmmmmm....trail of the serpent seems to get slimier and slimier. :-k
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Postby Edward Kennedy » 08/ 02/ 10 8:59 pm

...forgot the link...right here...scroll down to read his comments posted above.


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Postby Edward Kennedy » 08/ 02/ 10 9:03 pm

What is this? Is this the one and same Trevor Dagilis? If so what credentials could he have from this vocation that would qualify him to be an MOE manager?

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Postby Edward Kennedy » 08/ 02/ 10 9:08 pm

Gee, wonder what the dirt is on Gayla the domineering matrix of the MOE?

Have to wait awhile for that one. This is so sad, all that she or trevor had to do was answer a simple question. well I wonder if at this juncture it appears to the readership if the credential aspect of these two has been answered?

Do we have a bunch of incompetent dolts working for the MOE, passing off unqualified judgments that cost hundreds of thousands to innocent landowners? I can smell a lawsuit but there needs to be more of an investigation here? Up to it my fine friends and helpers?

You have been more than indisensable at this point in time.

Gotta go to bed now though, have two trees to remove tomorrow and three to trim, need to keep fit, the dominatrix may attack me. :lol:
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Postby Edward Kennedy » 08/ 03/ 10 4:34 am

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Scroll down to page 137 in the index and the same name Trevor Dagilis appears again. :-k
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Postby Edward Kennedy » 08/ 03/ 10 4:41 am

Facebook:
QPID was started back in 1990 by a Civil Engineering student named Trevor Dagilis... I was at the UN, bt invited to sit as an advisor to the new group. CUPID at Columbia was started by two social work students in 2004.

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?v=wall&gid=2256066629



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Scroll down to the comments by Brock Dickinson to see the magic name Trevor Dalilis and the evidential reality seems to indicate that he was a civil engineering student.

Back to the question, what has civil engineering have of any value to contribute to qualification to be an MOE employee? Huh?
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Postby Edward Kennedy » 08/ 03/ 10 5:02 am

http://www.fin.gov.on.ca/fr/publication ... ies06.html

I see Campney made over $ 106, 000 in 2006, which is about that amount more than someone who cannot even answer a simple question deserves. :D
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attn Clancey, Dagilis, Campney, Gerretsen

Postby Edward Kennedy » 08/ 03/ 10 11:41 am

Now if you can all stash your bs attempted intimidation/bullying, etc, I would like you all to read this and then put your collective INCOMPETENT(?) heads together and answer this concern expressed to me by a private emailer who differs far from the herd you are used to dealing with and impressing with your bs. This is a DEMAND for an answer to legitmate concerns I asked last year which you were not interested in answering FOR WHATEVER REASON.

At that time I said we could do this the easy way or the hard way, and it seems you like the hard way. I have not even started my publicity campaigns with the printed media yet and here we are with some serious issues that seem to prove you in violation of your own rules and directives. (so what else is new)

Being stupid is not against the law but violating your own directives of employment can bring grief, not to mention embarrassment and discreditation, as if you do not already suffer from the latter. What is going to happen when this goes political, and I have already taken that first step?

You, the MOE sure has a great director. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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this is sort of interesting ...


each ministry had to make a Statement of it's Environmental Values (SEV)

this is the MOE's:

3. APPLICATION OF THE SEV

The Ministry of the Environment is committed to applying the purposes of the EBR when decisions that might significantly affect the environment are made in the Ministry. As it develops Acts, regulations and policies, the Ministry will apply the following principles:

* The Ministry adopts an ecosystem approach to environmental protection and resource management. This approach views the ecosystem as composed of air, land, water and living organisms, including humans, and the interactions among them.
* The Ministry considers the cumulative effects on the environment; the interdependence of air, land, water and living organisms; and the relationships among the environment, the economy and society.
* The Ministry considers the effects of its decisions on current and future generations, consistent with sustainable development principles.
* The Ministry uses a precautionary, science-based approach in its decision-making to protect human health and the environment.
* The Ministry’s environmental protection strategy will place priority on preventing pollution and minimizing the creation of pollutants that can adversely affect the environment.
* The Ministry endeavours to have the perpetrator of pollution pay for the cost of clean up and rehabilitation consistent with the polluter pays principle.
* In the event that significant environmental harm is caused, the Ministry will work to ensure that the environment is rehabilitated to the extent feasible.
* Planning and management for environmental protection should strive for continuous improvement and effectiveness through adaptive management.
* The Ministry supports and promotes a range of tools that encourage environmental protection and sustainability (e.g. stewardship, outreach, education).
* The Ministry will encourage increased transparency, timely reporting and enhanced ongoing engagement with the public as part of environmental decision making.

link - MOE environmental registry
http://www.ebr.gov.on.ca/ERS-WEB-Extern ... Name=10001

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look at the last statement:
* The Ministry will encourage increased transparency, timely reporting and enhanced ongoing engagement with the public as part of environmental decision making.


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now have a look at the Environmental Commissioner's Office of Ontario
http://www.eco.on.ca/blog/2010/03/12/st ... al-values/


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What is a Statement of Environmental Values?



Each of the ministries subject to the Environmental Bill of Rights (EBR) has a Statement of Environmental Values (SEV). The SEV guides the minister and ministry staff when they make decisions that might affect the environment. You can find each Statement of Environmental Values on the Environmental Registry website.

Each SEV should explain:

* how the ministry will consider the environment when it makes environmentally significant decisions
* how the ministry will apply the purposes of the EBR when it makes environmentally significant decisions
* how the ministry will integrate its environmental values with social, economic and scientific considerations when it makes environmentally significant decisions. Each minister also makes commitments in his or her ministry’s SEV that are specific to the work of that particular ministry.

You can use the SEV to see how each ministry complies with the EBR. For example, you may be concerned about a proposed ministry policy. You can use the ministry’s SEV to see if the proposal reflects the goals of the EBR and is consistent with the ministry’s stated environmental values.

The Environmental Commissioner of Ontario (ECO) also reviews how the ministries apply their SEVs to their decision making. If you think a ministry has made a decision that isn’t consistent with its SEV, contact the ECO.

The Ministry of the Environment is in the process of reviewing and updating the SEVs. Stay tuned for the results!




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now going back to the MOE SEV:


Quote:
4. INTEGRATION WITH OTHER CONSIDERATIONS

The Ministry of the Environment will take into account social, economic and other considerations; these will be integrated with the purposes of the EBR when decisions that might significantly affect the environment need to be made. In making decisions, the Ministry will use the best science available. It will support scientific research, the development and application of technologies, processes and services.

The Ministry will encourage energy conservation in those sectors where it provides policy direction or programs.



5. MONITORING USE OF THE SEV

The Ministry of the Environment will document how the SEV was considered each time a decision on an Act, regulation or policy is posted on the Environmental Registry. The Ministry will ensure that staff involved in decisions that might significantly affect the environment is aware of the Ministry’s Environmental Bill of Rights obligations.

The Ministry of the Environment monitors and assesses changes in the environment. The Ministry reviews and reports, both internally and to the Environmental Commissioner’s Office, on its progress in implementing the SEV.



6. CONSULTATION

The Ministry of the Environment believes that public consultation is vital to sound environmental decision-making. The Ministry will provide opportunities for an open and consultative process when making decisions that might significantly affect the environment.



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first have a gander at #4 INTEGRATION WITH OTHER CONSIDERATIONS
Quote:
The Ministry will use the best science available ....


this raises the question of the credentials of Rhonda and company - what are their qualifications and what "Best Science Available" did they use in their decision making process?

"I REASONABLY BELIEVE" seems to fall a little short of science -
"I REASONABLY BELIEVE" sounds more like a religion ....


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now go to #5 MONITORING USE OF THE SEV

Quote:
The Ministry of the Environment will document how the SEV was considered each time a decision on an Act, regulation or policy is posted on the Environmental Registry. The Ministry will ensure that staff involved in decisions that might significantly affect the environment is aware of the Ministry’s Environmental Bill of Rights obligations.



- now I don't know the specifics of the case or if it has reached the EBR stage, but one would think that the same principles apply to work orders etc. ans to final decisions for the EBR

- or don't they ?

- do these kind of work order scenarios not require documentation as to how decisions were arrived ?
- where are the documents that support the MOE being consistent with their SEV? - ie: trasparency, best science, consultation etc
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Postby Edward Kennedy » 08/ 03/ 10 11:53 am

Well it appears that I shopuld be the last of the MOE and especially Gayla's worries, this individual has a vast scope of analytical and investigative skills, bolstered by logic, perseverance, and the love of freedom, democracy and justice.

Well here you go Gayla, this explains your cozy relaitonship with the police and why you tried to sic em on me. Don't worry, some of those boys are under scrutiny by the OLA also. I do not think they would take kindly to you getting them into trouble by trying to get me into trouble. Indeed, just what is illegal about asking some legitimate questions? Huh?
Freaking huh?

Wait til I post my letters to you here, that will demonstrate how to treat an MOE minion of perceived fascism.

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this is kinda cool ...


Galya Campney's father was a local mayor and chair of Police Services Board





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Robert J. Campney building dedicated


Posted Jan 21, 2010
By Kate Everson

The OPP building in Trenton has been renamed the Robert J. Campney Police Services Building. A dedication took place outside the building on January 15 with members of the Campney family attending along with several dignitaries and councillors.

Mayor John Williams gave a brief history of the 1985 police building which replaced the one at King and Division Street which was "totally inadequate." The $800,000 building was constructed when Bob Campney was chair of the police services board and Neil Robertson was mayor of Trenton.

Williams also gave some background on Bob Campney who was born in Trenton and worked at Domtar for 40 years, 30 as mill manager. He was chair of the board for Trenton PUC, Albert College and served on the Trenton Kiwanis Club for 40 years. In 1998 he served a term as councillor, followed by two terms as mayor from 2000 to 2006.

"He worked hard and he got things done," Williams said. He admitted some of his decisions were controversial but he brought good changes for Quinte West including a new city hall in 2004. He was involved in the relocation of the cenotaph in 2005 from Centennial Park to near the Legion. He saw VIA passenger train service reinstated to Trenton junction. The arena was renovated in 2004 and he revitalized the Trenton Farmers Market. The contract with the OPP from April 1, 2004 has resulted in "excellent service."

Former Quinte MLA Hugh O'Neil spoke for MPP Lou Rinaldi. He said he has known the Campney family for many years. "They are a great family," he said, "and very hard working." He acknowledged that if Bob had something to say, he'd say it. He got things done.

Jim Alyea, chair of the Police Services Board, and Inspector Earl Johns, detachment commander, spoke highly about Campney. "He was a true gentleman and a true leader," Johns said.

Regional Commander Chief Superintendent Gary Couture of the OPP also brought his regards.

Gayla Campney said, "Our father loved this community. He was dedicated to making this a safe, prosperous place to live."

He resolved problems and advocated for accountability. He was champion for the OPP, but he also admired and supported the local police. "He always had the best interests of Quinte West," she said.

Padre Sid Horne, named "everybody's padre" by Bob Campney, said Bob worked hard to raise money to move the cenotaph. "He browbeat people to come across with the money!' he laughed.

An official unveiling and ribbon cutting took place followed by a reception at city hall.


http://emcquinte.ca/20100121/news/Rober ... +dedicated



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*** now have a look at Gayla's telltale statement:

Quote:
He resolved problems and advocated for accountability.


Accountability - hummm !

Gayla - do you subscribe to your father's values?
Galya - do you advocate accountability?
If so - why are you avoiding accountability on this issue?




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oh how the worm turns, Edward ...............
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Postby Edward Kennedy » 08/ 03/ 10 12:04 pm

Well it seems the rot always starts at the head, and now with the focus on the perceived lack of credentials of those at the top, an allegation is NOT worth the paper it is written on without facts. Well it sems that Gayla has some explaining to do, about her switching around the different fascist agencies of the system.

My inside contact told me this several months ago and that the top echelons opf these fascist orgs need to be cleaned out. Seems he was right, as proven by the great sniffer of the investigater of the MOE. The OLA should hire this individual, look at what the sleuth has come across now.

Note that there are no smears, lies, defamation, or other lieberal tactics here. Gayla should take note and try to emulate in future, it might give her a bit of much needed class.

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http://www.icestorm98.info/Interviews/K ... Moore.html



Gayla Campney, is Kathy Moore’s executive assistant, who “looked after everything Kathy wasn’t, and who was a volunteer in her own community.

1998:
Kathryn Moore was Ministry of Transportation (MTO) Regional Director, Eastern Ontario, MTO Office, Counter Street, Kingston


OH NO SAY IT ISN'T SO GAYLA BABY!!!!!! :x

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so in '98 Gayla was an exec assistant ( secretary?) at the MTO
in 10 years she becomes Regional Director for MOE

- interesting to see her qualifications other than her father being mayor



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http://kingston.cioc.ca/record/KGN1140
shows Galya as Primary Executive of the MOE Eastern Division ---------------------------



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nowhere can I find a P Eng designation for Gayla
Other MOE employees that are P Engs have theirs shown in correspondence
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Postby Edward Kennedy » 08/ 03/ 10 12:11 pm

wife and I having discussion about this woman's credentials ...


wife says at first I'm picking on Gayla because she was a woman who was a secretary who rose up in the ranks - maybe she worked hard and well to deserve it ..

and that she is not alone but has a whole staff of techies, engineers to assist her


answer:

fine and dandy, but Gayla is primary exec at MOE - Eastern Division
- she has to oversee and be responsible for complex technical and scientiic decisions made by her staff, regarding agriculture, food, water, environment, business, etc

how can she do this - does she have the credentials?
does she have any credentials ?


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Is this why she was so quick to switch the topic off credentials and onto the mean and evil, wicked and nasty lil ole Edward?

Is there enougfh here yet for a full blown investigation/hearing into the MOE, the MTO, and other gubmit agencies? Are they all run by fascists with no credentials, with many of those under them also credential-less?

What about this jumping around from one agency to another? Is it widespread? My inside sources say yes.

My my my, what a big mess has come from the refusal if a flunkie to answer a simple question...but perhaps he WAS TOLD how to deal with me.

Well, they should have known better, AND THIS IS JUST THE START.

Yup Gerretsen, you have a great bunch under you, they sure know how to deal with the public.

...and now I am really pissed! :x :x
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Postby Edward Kennedy » 08/ 03/ 10 12:16 pm

So the next act, now that the coconut has cracked, is to beat it against the rock of truth more and hard enough to make it leak.

Of course the fascists could also try to lie and smear me, or sic the police on me.

There is nowhere though to hide, to turn or run without serious damage to the damned MOE and the other agencies I am sure are involved. There are also questions of nepotism, favortism, etc.

...and the trail of the slimy serpent gets slimier and slimier....but the real dirt remains to be uncovered. :-k

Stay tuned as the super sleuth, the unnamed but unknown ferrets out more goodies on the system, and the named targets of the investigation.

:D
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Postby fourhorses » 08/ 03/ 10 12:16 pm

Holy bamboo Batman, what a jungle ...
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
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Postby Edward Kennedy » 08/ 03/ 10 1:04 pm

I was contacted by the MNR from Peterborough this morning about my land patent and seems it is on it's way, it has been three months but that is alright.

By way of qualification, dealing with agencies seems to depend on the actual people you are talking to. The gal I was talking to this morning was a great gal, as have been others in the Quinte COnservation Authority, the OSPCA, etc.

My dealings with the MOE on two occasions in my opinion have been unacceptably characterized by lies, smears, intimidation, defamation, bullying, and sheer incompetence.

The posting of the letter Gayla Campney sent me, I am sure, will enlighten the reader to the malicious and lieberal bent to defame and put people on the defensive, if not to make them run for cover. You can be the judge, and if I am out of the field you can let me know.

Her copy to the president was met with his reply of accusing her of a thinly veiled attempt at intimidation. He saw it quickly.

Well, I am not intimidated, that has been tried too many times to be effectual.

Such battles carry a price, and if one uses PI's it can become very expensive, although the evidenc eis always worth the cost.

Agencies are supposed to work WITH the landowner, not seek to financially ruin him. Games played by agency field officers are well known, in fact, I was told that after a visit to his farm, one landowner was asked by the agent if he would take her on a tour of the operation.

He accommodated and after a few days, he received a pile of orders form her by mail...seems she had been sneaking pictures on the sly on the tour. You can guess her name. I know of no other field worker who has been the object of more hatred, verbal abuse, and complaints than Rhonda Clancey. My visit to my MPP's office and the mention of her name brought an instant response, and he was very familiar also with her.

My land patent is on the way, and a sign will be posted to any agency officer to stay the bloody hell off my property or suffer the legal consequences for trespassing and expect to be the object of a citizen's arrest.

This is the OLA answer to the bs too many of these damned fascists have been pulling on landowners, thus "ENTER AT OWN RISK"
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