Hundreds block Ontario road to support prison farms

[styky]

Hundreds block Ontario road to support prison farms


Postmedia News July 23, 2010 12:02 PM



KINGSTON, Ont. — Hundreds of farmers, local residents and prison-rights advocates who want the Conservative government to keep Canada's prison farms open set up a blockade to the regional headquarters of the Correctional Services of Canada in Kingston, Ont., on Friday morning.

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[Shibumi 2]

I think it was a poor decision to close all the farm annexes. It was one of the few ways that serving inmates could be productive instead of being a constant drain on the taxpayers. However I think the real reason they shut them down is so they have the room to build more Institutions.

[RedDog]

I love seeing the highway work gangs out in Alberta. Excellent service to the taxpayers feeding and housing them. Days like today there shouldn't be a single person shooting pool or watching movies in prisons. Every last one of them should be out in the sun working off their debt to society.

[backhoe]

I love seeing the highway work gangs out in Alberta. Excellent service to the taxpayers feeding and housing them. Days like today there shouldn't be a single person shooting pool or watching movies in prisons. Every last one of them should be out in the sun working off their debt to society.

I'm with you- as long as the men are treated humanely- good food and water, rest breaks, etc., it is far better than being cooped up in a cage with a bunch of other criminals.

If I were a prisoner, this is exactly what I would do, given the option.

[Shibumi 2]

"If I were a prisoner, this is exactly what I would do, given the option."

No you wouldn't . The other inmates would set you straight quick enough. If you still insisted on this course of action, you would wake up in healthcare or not at all.

There was an exceptionally heinous murder that took place just west of my city about four years ago. It involved several men and a young girl who was raped and bludgeoned to death on a golf course. When one of those perpetrators finally found their way into the Federal system he was a model inmate. Everything was yes sir, no sir, bed made by 6:00am, trays cleaned off and washed, etc. That lasted a week before he was set straight by the other inmates. Then it went to F**k off, i am going to kill you, not standing for the count, etc.

Trust me when I write this...inmates for the large majority spend their time trying to figure out ways to play the system.

[J.B. Stone]

Hundreds block Ontario road to support prison farms

So, arrest them and put them to work....

[Edward Kennedy]

[quote="Shibumi 2"]"If I were a prisoner, this is exactly what I would do, given the option."

No you wouldn't . The other inmates would set you straight quick enough. If you still insisted on this course of action, you would wake up in healthcare or not at all.

There was an exceptionally heinous murder that took place just west of my city about four years ago. It involved several men and a young girl who was raped and bludgeoned to death on a golf course. When one of those perpetrators finally found their way into the Federal system he was a model inmate. Everything was yes sir, no sir, bed made by 6:00am, trays cleaned off and washed, etc. That lasted a week before he was set straight by the other inmates. Then it went to F**k off, i am going to kill you, not standing for the count, etc.

Trust me when I write this...inmates for the large majority spend their time trying to figure out ways to play the system.[/quote]

Yup.

[backhoe]

"If I were a prisoner, this is exactly what I would do, given the option."

No you wouldn't ...

Speak for yourself, mister.

[Connie Fournier]

I think it was a poor decision to close all the farm annexes. It was one of the few ways that serving inmates could be productive instead of being a constant drain on the taxpayers. However I think the real reason they shut them down is so they have the room to build more Institutions.

I agree with this. I recently read that the need more prison room because the Conservative "tough on crime" agenda will see a rise of 30% in the prison population.

I don't think I'm alone in thinking that I don't trust a government that wants to increase the prison population by that much. Crime rates are going DOWN, for crying out loud!

[J.B. Stone]

I think it was a poor decision to close all the farm annexes. It was one of the few ways that serving inmates could be productive instead of being a constant drain on the taxpayers. However I think the real reason they shut them down is so they have the room to build more Institutions.

I agree with this. I recently read that the need more prison room because the Conservative "tough on crime" agenda will see a rise of 30% in the prison population.

I don't think I'm alone in thinking that I don't trust a government that wants to increase the prison population by that much. Crime rates are going DOWN, for crying out loud!

ANOTHER argument for the death penalty....start with jaywalking and move up from there.....VOILA...!!!.....no crowding issue.



I wonder what has to say on this....???

[centrestage]

And whatever one does, dont pick up that bar of soap in the shower rooms.

[One Truth]

I don't think I'm alone in thinking that I don't trust a government that wants to increase the prison population by that much. Crime rates are going DOWN, for crying out loud!

I'm not sure the increase will come from more convictions. I think the idea is just to keep criminals in prison for a reasonable period instead of the offensively short sentences currently given.

But you're right. Nobody trusts the government anymore. It has nearly reached the point of illegitimacy.

[Connie Fournier]

This "tough on crime" schtick would be reasonable if Canada was becoming a hotbed for crime. But, the fact is that the crime rate is going down, and there is a lot of concern that citizens are now being bullied by some of the people who are supposed to be protecting us. We don't need the prison population to increase by 30% when the crime rate is going down!

And, prison farms allow inmates to contribute to their own upkeep. I'm surprised that a Conservative government wouldn't take that into consideration.

Anyway, I joined a facebook group to save the prison farms. It looks like Stephen Harper has managed to find yet another issue that I can agree with the lefties about. He's a uniter, for sure!

The most important action you can TAKE! is to send a handwritten letter expressing your views on the value of Canada's six prison! COME ON GUYS! how much time do we waste on facebook, or other things, lets just pick up a pen and write a letter that will take 10 minutes and SAVE SO MUCH!
-Send it to Public Safety Minister Vic Toews 8-227 Main street, Steinbach, Manitoba, R5G 1Y7 or contact him @ p(204) 326-9889 f:(204) 346-9874
- Write or call Prime Minister Stephen Harper toll free @ 1-866-599-4999 1-866-599-4999 (ask for the office of the Prime Minister) or F: 1-613-941-6900 or e-mail pm@pm.gc.ca
-Write or call Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff at toll-free 1-866-599-4999 1-866-599-4999(ask for the liberal leaders office) or email ignatm@parl.gc.ca
-Write or call NDP Leader Jack Layton at 613-947-0867 613-947-0867 or email laytoj@parl.gc.ca
- Write or call Green Party Leader Elizabeth May @ 1-866-868-3447 1-866-868-3447 or e-mail leader@greenparty.ca
COME ON GUYS! It will only take 5 minutes of your time and make a huge difference, if everyone contacted the papers in your area and wrote an article on this...We need to make this Nation Wide to make a difference, every newspaper across Canada! We need your help WRITE & CALL your politicians today! What there worried about is Votes and if enough people stand up and show that we care about our prison farms we can make a difference!

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=3 ... ref=search

[Fabulous Fred]

Harper is a master of making himself look like a fool.

That is for one of two possible reasons:

1. He is being a phony and betraying his intellectual and philosophical conservative beliefs in order to try to be popular, ...and he's screwing it up rather well.

or

2. He has always been a liberal and his conservative persona was the phony Harper, therefore being a liberal at heart he really is a screwed up fool.

[RadicallyLiberal]

If anything we should be lessening the incarceration rates for non violent criminals.

Make fist or second time time non violent criminals pay an extra 25% in Federal taxes for a few years and make them live in semi locked down housing projects and restrict them to their units for 12 hours a day with electronioc monitoring. A lot cheeper than the 65K+ a year to incarcerate.

There are way too many stupid reasons to be jailed for in Canada. Lets incarcerate violent felons for double and triple length sentences and actually do something that WILL make society safer.