Harper Conservatives' relentless attack on the internet

Documenting free speech attacks by Richard Warman, Warren Kinsella, the Human Rights Commissions and others who would seek to silence conservative discourse in Canada.

Postby CdnRepublican » 05/ 28/ 10 12:06 pm

All these new laws - if these bills are passed - basically end the warrant system.

A few of them are to 'protect the children' - but we all know how elastic that will become [just like the RIDE programs are becoming quite elastic].

Connie is right the CRTC will be monitoring content of digital comms at some future point.

This must have an impact on costs, application/internet innovation, usage patterns, and of course freedoms.

The state is becoming more powerful, the people, far weaker.

Remember when the really smart people said that increased trade, technology and financial interdependence meant the end of the nation state and governmental power ?????

Remember that ?

The opposite has occurred.

But then again those really smart people are behind the Green Fascist, HRC, Islam is peace, cult.
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Postby Hodgson » 05/ 28/ 10 12:20 pm

We need a Wildrose Alliance.....Federally.
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Postby ChangingColours » 05/ 28/ 10 12:28 pm

Hodgson wrote:We need a Wildrose Alliance.....Federally.


Indeed. We need it now. The CPC isn't going to cut it (regardless if there are those who think Harper will pull through if he gets a majority.)
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Postby styky » 05/ 28/ 10 12:35 pm

ChangingColours wrote:
Hodgson wrote:We need a Wildrose Alliance.....Federally.


Indeed. We need it now. The CPC isn't going to cut it (regardless if there are those who think Harper will pull through if he gets a majority.)


There's no one else worth voting for so many feel stuck with the don't vote or vote for the least despicable and Harper wins that coin toss.

As for we need a Wildrose Alliance federally, we had one and we all know how that went. :roll:
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Postby Conservative Boy » 05/ 28/ 10 1:35 pm

Connie Fournier wrote:
Conservative Boy wrote:
Connie Fournier wrote:
Charles J. White wrote:Don't blame me, I didn't vote for the "Conservatives" or Harper


I just heard today that the CHP membership is growing by leaps and bounds. That isn't the way for Harper to win a majority.


But unless the CHP can influence the vote in a significant way, I don't think Harper is going to worry about it too much.


Why does everyone think that Harper can win his majority when his socon base is leaving? It's basic math!

But, even if he can, what do you think about the legislation his government has been pushing through in regard to the internet? Are you comfortable with it?


I'm not familiar enough with the legislation to comment on it in detail. I will have to take a look at it.

I agree with you that Harper cannot afford to lose the socon base, but I don't think there is much evidence of that happening so far. Where is it going to go? It's not going to vote for the Liberals or the NDP.

I don't think Harper can win a majority right now anyway. The polls show he is stuck in minority territory again. But until the Liberals get a more competent leader, Harper doesn't have to worry about losing power, even though he will probably only get another minority.
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Postby Connie Fournier » 05/ 28/ 10 1:36 pm

So, is anyone interested in actually doing something about this, or do we sit around and wait to be picked off because we don't want to hurt Harper's feelings?

I have to say, I'm frustrated.
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Postby styky » 05/ 28/ 10 1:55 pm

Connie Fournier wrote:So, is anyone interested in actually doing something about this, or do we sit around and wait to be picked off because we don't want to hurt Harper's feelings?

I have to say, I'm frustrated.


A plan of action is needed because this :yak: only gets you so far.

We need ideas but those ideas may have to be discussed by PM. What say you. :-k
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Postby Yoda » 05/ 28/ 10 2:01 pm

As an observer said on ZH

" We are several bananas past a republic"

Working with the system is not viable
Working within same system is not possible

But surviving the system is
"Plunderers of the world, when nothing remains of the lands to which they have laid waste by indiscriminate thievery, they search out across the seas. The wealth of another excites their greed, and its poverty their lust of power. Nothing from the rising to the setting of the sun can satiate them. They alone are as compelled to attack the poor as they are the wealthy. Robbery, rape, and slaughter they falsely call empire; and where they create a desolate waste, they call it peace."
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Postby styky » 05/ 28/ 10 2:17 pm

Yoda wrote:As an observer said on ZH

" We are several bananas past a republic"

Working with the system is not viable
Working within same system is not possible

But surviving the system is


Might I suggest Image
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Postby Connie Fournier » 05/ 28/ 10 2:27 pm

The government isn't going to need Section 13. With this new assortment of legislation, they will have a virtual buffet of options for shutting down the online speech of anyone they want to.
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Postby styky » 05/ 28/ 10 2:37 pm

Connie Fournier wrote:The government isn't going to need Section 13. With this new assortment of legislation, they will have a virtual buffet of options for shutting down the online speech of anyone they want to.


I am sensing what I can only describe as fatigue. It appears the government may win because they have, if we let them, beaten us into a shoulder shrug. That's what I'm picking up any way :-k
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Postby Godwin » 05/ 28/ 10 2:54 pm

styky wrote:
ChangingColours wrote:
Hodgson wrote:We need a Wildrose Alliance.....Federally.


Indeed. We need it now. The CPC isn't going to cut it (regardless if there are those who think Harper will pull through if he gets a majority.)


There's no one else worth voting for so many feel stuck with the don't vote or vote for the least despicable and Harper wins that coin toss.

As for we need a Wildrose Alliance federally, we had one and we all know how that went. :roll:




The quote is approximately


The lesser of evils is not necessarily the same as marginally acceptable.


Don't vote.
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Postby styky » 05/ 28/ 10 3:01 pm

Godwin wrote:
styky wrote:
ChangingColours wrote:
Hodgson wrote:We need a Wildrose Alliance.....Federally.


Indeed. We need it now. The CPC isn't going to cut it (regardless if there are those who think Harper will pull through if he gets a majority.)


There's no one else worth voting for so many feel stuck with the don't vote or vote for the least despicable and Harper wins that coin toss.

As for we need a Wildrose Alliance federally, we had one and we all know how that went. :roll:




The quote is approximately


The lesser of evils is not necessarily the same as marginally acceptable.


Don't vote.


Many years ago I proclaimed to the family that I was not going to bother voting in the up-coming election. My son at the time was about 12 and angerly turned to me and said "you have an obligation as a citizen of this country to participate even if you have to swallow hard to do it". Shocked me back to my senses
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Postby Godwin » 05/ 28/ 10 3:51 pm

Your son uttered nonsense. But he was 12 and should be commended for thinking about it.

You however were the adult.

But perhaps we are talking aboutd two different things. There is a difference between not bothering to vote and refusing to vote.
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Postby styky » 05/ 28/ 10 4:43 pm

Godwin wrote:Your son uttered nonsense. But he was 12 and should be commended for thinking about it.

You however were the adult.

But perhaps we are talking aboutd two different things. There is a difference between not bothering to vote and refusing to vote.


I'll take his advise over your's any day.
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