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quebec angry over lack of french at games

Postby Edward Kennedy » 02/ 15/ 10 9:36 pm

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By The Canadian Press, thecanadianpress.com, Updated: 15/02/2010

Quebec angry over lack of French at Games

MONTREAL - A Quebecer's moment of Olympic glory is being tempered by a bitter feeling in his home province that the language he speaks has been treated like an also-ran at the Games.



MONTREAL - A Quebecer's moment of Olympic glory is being tempered by a bitter feeling in his home province that the language he speaks has been treated like an also-ran at the Games.

Celebration over Alexandre Bilodeau's Olympic freestyle skiing victory risked being overshadowed by a torrent of criticism over a perceived lack of French at the Olympics.

The issue is receiving major media coverage in Quebec just as the country celebrates its first gold medal on Canadian soil, delivered Sunday by a French-speaking Quebecer.

There's a two-page spread in Monday's La Presse newspaper with headlines like: French as Rare as Snow in Vancouver; and Only 15 Per Cent of 25,000 Volunteers Speak French; and there was one mocking column in the paper partly written in English, titled Proud to be 'Canadian' — with the word Canadian written in English.

A stream of negative viewer comments was being aired on TV talk shows.

Several commenters argued that French — which is not only one of Canada's official languages, but actually one of the Olympics' official languages — was heard more often at the Beijing Games in 2008 than at Vancouver's opening ceremonies.

Federal Heritage Minister James Moore and Quebec Premier Jean Charest have both noted their frustration over the lack of French spoken at the opening ceremonies.
On Quebec's TV talk shows, questions were being raised about whether official bilingualism in Canada was actually a facade.

Denis Coderre, the federal Liberal critic for official languages, said francophone concerns were being ignored in English Canada.

Coderre, who habitually sprinkles his own political speeches with a few phrases of Haitian Creole or Italian, poked fun at the Vancouver organizing committee CEO's failure to do the same.

He said John Furlong could have bothered, over the last several years, to learn a few phrases of French — other than tossing out a token, mispronounced, "Bienvenue" during his address at the opening ceremonies.

"I don't accept being a second-class citizen," Coderre told a talk show on LCN network.

"The reality is not to find something negative about the games, it's to say look, respect me."

Another former cabinet minister said she watched the opening ceremonies with a group of federalist friends — all people who believe in Canada — and that they were aghast at what they saw.

"We were really disappointed on the one hand, and hurt on the other," said Liza Frulla, who was once minister responsible for sports.

Quebec nationalist groups quickly pounced the issue to argue their case that Canada doesn't work.

They said that federal policies on bilingualism had obviously failed to protect the French language. One ardent sovereigntist said that he expected Games organizers to at least try keeping up the charade that Canada is a bilingual country.

"It seems like the atmosphere of indifference, if not intolerance, of French has reached the point where there wasn't even an effort to save the appearance of bilingualism," Mario Beaulieu, president of the Societe Saint-Jean-Baptiste de Montreal, said of the opening ceremonies.

"It's deplorable, but we're not surprised."

Canada's official languages commissioner, Graham Fraser, issued a report last fall that warned Olympic organizers they weren't doing enough to make the Games bilingual.

The Conservative government gave the Olympic organizing committee an additional $7.7 million in September to pay for French translation services and more French signs.
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Postby TomFoolery » 02/ 15/ 10 9:56 pm

Its time that Latin or some such language is revived, and only to be used in government run events.
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Postby Gerry T. Neal » 02/ 15/ 10 10:04 pm

TomFoolery wrote:Its time that Latin or some such language is revived, and only to be used in government run events.


Latin should be returned to schools and put there in place of French (or Spanish in the US). It is easier to learn both French and Spanish (and Italian and Portugese for that matter) if you know Latin, than to learn either on their own.
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Postby B. Max » 02/ 15/ 10 10:11 pm

For christ sakes Quebec hurry up and separate.
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Postby calgary clipper » 02/ 15/ 10 10:11 pm

Perhaps this will hammer home the point that, for the most part, the world does not communicate in French, much less Quebecois, - nor does Western Canada. QC will never be happy until everything is 100% French and this is not going to happen - despite the Feds sinking $billions into official bilingualism. James Moore sounds more like a Liberal than a Conservative in his criticism of lack of French.

To those wanting to hear/see everything in French, watch the Francophone network. The feds have supplied multi $millions to get the Francophone network in place so why arn't the whiners enjoying it. Perhaps there is to much French and not enough Quebecois on the network.
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Postby EdS » 02/ 15/ 10 10:45 pm

F*** 'em. A-holes. WTF? Français in frigggin' BC? They're lucky to have heard any French at all!
Denis Coderre, the federal Liberal critic for official languages, said francophone concerns were being ignored in English Canada.
No sh!t, really? :roll:

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Re: quebec angry over lack of french at games

Postby Lionhead » 02/ 15/ 10 11:13 pm

Why can francophones not come to grips with the fact that English is the most important international language and the Olympics are an international event?

Denis Coderre, the federal Liberal critic for official languages, said francophone concerns were being ignored in English Canada.

Right.

Just as Anglophone concerns are being ignored in Quebec.
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Re: quebec angry over lack of french at games

Postby EdS » 02/ 16/ 10 12:47 am

Lionhead wrote:Why can francophones not come to grips with the fact that English is the most important international language and the Olympics are an international event?

Because bigots and Franco-supremacists lost their grip on reality long ago.
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Postby Maikeru » 02/ 16/ 10 3:01 am

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Re: quebec angry over lack of french at games

Postby Edward Kennedy » 02/ 16/ 10 6:44 am

EdS wrote:
Lionhead wrote:Why can francophones not come to grips with the fact that English is the most important international language and the Olympics are an international event?

Because bigots and Franco-supremacists lost their grip on reality long ago.


This is the problem as in the case with many radicals of every movement, culture and race.

In my years working for an employer, I found generally the French fellows who were my peers to be hard working, industrious and very amenable. Fact is, I got along famously with them, as I did Indians.

The mindset of quebec is the mentality of those who have been educated and somehow infected with the lieberal disease that makes them insist that they are entitled to their entitlements".

If a brick wall was put up around quebec and it seceded, losing all the benefits and handouts from the rest of canuckistan, they would be a financial mess within a year.
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Postby Maestro_T » 02/ 16/ 10 6:59 am

What little of the opening ceremonies I did see in fact showed French being spoken before English.

And I know there was at least one horrible, horrible singer there who was French, and his awfulness surely made up for any lack of French representation there might have been (and there probably wasn't any lack).

I'm sure if the Olympics are ever held in Quebec City, we'll see lots and lots of Anglo representation. Riiiiight.

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Postby RedDog » 02/ 16/ 10 7:17 am

Indeed. I got home and flipped on the box while the opening ceremonies were on and I thought I had a French channel. They didn't even provide translation for Jacques Rogge's speech which was delivered in French only. Disgusting.
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Postby Dacre » 02/ 16/ 10 7:57 am

I'm just shocked I tell you. And here I thought we were all getting along so well. Nothing like the Olympics to bring on the hard feelings and resentments. I just hope we can get some spoiled brat whiney antics to add to the riots and demonstrations. Afterall the Olympics are unifying aren't they? If Parliament was sitting we could listen to non stop grievences from the party of traitors and their left wing brethren in the other parties.
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Postby Eddy » 02/ 16/ 10 9:06 am

Maestro_T wrote:What little of the opening ceremonies I did see in fact showed French being spoken before English.

And I know there was at least one horrible, horrible singer there who was French, and his awfulness surely made up for any lack of French representation there might have been (and there probably wasn't any lack).

I'm sure if the Olympics are ever held in Quebec City, we'll see lots and lots of Anglo representation. Riiiiight.

Another day, another whine.


The Olympics are hosted by cities, not countries; the bilingualism of Canada has nothing to do with the linguistic status of Vancouver. And 25% of volunteers speak French? In a city where what - 2% of the population speaks French? Sounds pretty good.
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Postby Fairwarning » 02/ 16/ 10 10:21 am

I read one person's complaint on a newspaper comment section that said 'what french was spoken wasn't even pronounced correctly'

Oh really I say...how about I say this.."I ham pro desting my tax dallere payhing da BQ" That could enough for ya?
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