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 Heartofsong83Joined: 29 Apr 2005 Total posts: 13130 Location: Up in the woods... Age: 26 Gender: Male
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 Posted: 11/ 22/ 09 10:44 am Post subject: Ignatieff slips further behind in poll (CPC 38, LPC 23) |
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Ignatieff slips further behind in poll
Bill Curry
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/blogs/bureau-blog/ignatieff-slips-further-behind-in-poll/article1371546/
Michael Ignatieff is surely hoping this is rock bottom.
A new public opinion survey shows support for the Liberals has slipped to 23 per cent – well back of the 38 per cent support for the front-running Conservatives.
The survey was taken from Nov. 14 to Nov. 16, which is before news broke this week regarding the treatment of Afghan detainees.
It shows the Conservatives are essentially at the same level of support, 37.6 per cent, they received in the 2008 election, while the Liberals under Mr. Ignatieff are now three points lower than the 26.2 per cent the party received in 2008 under previous leader Stéphane Dion.
Support for the NDP has remained constant at 17 per cent this fall, which is one point below the party’s 2008 results.
The Angus Reid/Toronto Star survey polled 1,005 Canadian adults who are part of an Angus Reid Forum online panel. The margin of error is plus or minus 3.1 per cent, 19 times out of 20.
In contrast to the same survey company’s results for Oct. 23-24, the Tories are down two points, the Liberals are down three points, the NDP are unchanged, the Bloc Québécois is up two points and the Green Party’s support jumped from seven per cent to 11 per cent. |
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| Heartofsong83 Joined: 29 Apr 2005 Total posts: 13130 Location: Up in the woods... Age: 26 Gender: Male
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| Posted: 11/ 22/ 09 10:46 am Post subject: |
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Seems fairly reasonable, but the Green number I think is seriously inflated considering their by-election debacles and that climate change is, at best, a non-issue right now except among activists and the media.
The real numbers right now I believe:
Conservative 38
Liberal 25
NDP 19
Bloc 11
Green 5
Others 2 |
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| Posted: 11/ 22/ 09 10:50 am Post subject: |
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Liberals fire all the young blood and bring back the selective few from the Chretien Martin years and the people respond.
I take it this is not the response the party was looking for.
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| Heartofsong83 Joined: 29 Apr 2005 Total posts: 13130 Location: Up in the woods... Age: 26 Gender: Male
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| Posted: 11/ 22/ 09 10:52 am Post subject: |
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By region, my guess for the real numbers:
British Columbia
CPC 46 - NDP 32 - LPC 13 - GPC 7
Alberta
CPC 64 - NDP 14 - LPC 9 - GPC 9
Saskatchewan/Manitoba
CPC 57 - NDP 25 - LPC 10 - GPC 4
Ontario
CPC 42 - LPC 34 - NDP 17 - GPC 5
Quebec
BQ 44 - CPC 19 - LPC 18 - NDP 15 - GPC 3
Atlantic Canada
CPC 38 - NDP 30 - LPC 25 - GPC 5 |
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| TomFoolery Joined: 18 Dec 2005 Total posts: 5371
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| Posted: 11/ 22/ 09 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Heartofsong83 wrote: | By region, my guess for the real numbers:
British Columbia
CPC 46 - NDP 32 - LPC 13 - GPC 7
Alberta
CPC 64 - NDP 14 - LPC 9 - GPC 9
Saskatchewan/Manitoba
CPC 57 - NDP 25 - LPC 10 - GPC 4
Ontario
CPC 42 - LPC 34 - NDP 17 - GPC 5
Quebec
BQ 44 - CPC 19 - LPC 18 - NDP 15 - GPC 3
Atlantic Canada
CPC 38 - NDP 30 - LPC 25 - GPC 5 |
I would venture to guess you are overstating the CPC support in Atllantic Canada. Even though most Atlantic Canadians I have met are more like Alberta conservatives than most, the "Conservatives are dangerous" media-programming seems to sink into their mindset the easiest. |
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| BO Supporter Joined: 21 Jul 2009 Total posts: 163 Gender: Unknown
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| Posted: 11/ 23/ 09 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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Maybe this is the one poll where QB has appeared nationwide, rather than a Quebec-only option like the vast majority of the polls...
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styky
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| Posted: 11/ 23/ 09 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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Here's the link to Nodice with listings of all the lastest polls
http://www.electionalmanac.com/canada/polls.php
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| ChangingColours Joined: 26 Oct 2007 Total posts: 484 Location: Moscow, ON Age: 42 Gender: Unknown
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| Posted: 11/ 23/ 09 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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And the game goes on!
Will Ezra be right in his predictions of the gap narrowing with the firing of Kinsella? Will the electorate really step away from the LPoC? Could the LPoC be gone and we are stuck with the choice of Taliban Jack or The Right Honourable Stephen Harper?
Not sure what it is about polls that get me excited ... regardless of what they say. Maybe I'll chat to my doctor about this. |
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| BO Supporter Joined: 21 Jul 2009 Total posts: 163 Gender: Unknown
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| Posted: 11/ 23/ 09 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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| ChangingColours wrote: | And the game goes on!
Will Ezra be right in his predictions of the gap narrowing with the firing of Kinsella? Will the electorate really step away from the LPoC? Could the LPoC be gone and we are stuck with the choice of Taliban Jack or The Right Honourable Stephen Harper?
Not sure what it is about polls that get me excited ... regardless of what they say. Maybe I'll chat to my doctor about this. |
And more and more angry federalists going to the sovereigntist camp!
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| Posted: 11/ 23/ 09 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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| BO Supporter wrote: | | ChangingColours wrote: | And the game goes on!
Will Ezra be right in his predictions of the gap narrowing with the firing of Kinsella? Will the electorate really step away from the LPoC? Could the LPoC be gone and we are stuck with the choice of Taliban Jack or The Right Honourable Stephen Harper?
Not sure what it is about polls that get me excited ... regardless of what they say. Maybe I'll chat to my doctor about this. |
And more and more angry federalists going to the sovereigntist camp! |
You may have missed this...
http://www.freedominion.com.pa/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=125713
Laytons busy putting fires out in his own camp.
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| kowalski Joined: 15 May 2004 Total posts: 2935 Location: Seeking a safe seat. Gender: Unknown
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| Posted: 11/ 24/ 09 4:08 am Post subject: |
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| Justrin is being groomed until theese are Ignatieff's free health care numbers then he will rise to save Canada. |
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