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PostPosted: 12/ 04/ 08 5:58 am    Post subject: 15 Liberals Who Can Make A Difference Reply with quote

December 4, 2008

To: Wayne Easter, Mark Eyking , Judy Foote, Albina Guarnieri , Jim Karygiannis, Lawrence MacAuley, Dan McTeague , Shawn Murphy, Paul Szabo, Alan Tonks, Borys Wrzesnewskyi, Derek Lee, John McKay, Massimo Pacetti, Bryon Wilfert

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In this time of political crisis for our nation, it is imperative that the Members of Parliament consider the good of the country over their own immediate political interests. The long-term implications of the proposed socialist-separatist agreement of the three opposition parties will have dire political and economic consequences to the Liberal Party and the unity and survival of Canada itself.

By accepting this Coalition, you are inviting financial abuse by the socialists in a time of economic uncertainty and instability. A recession calls for prudent financial management of the country’s finances, not a ballooning of the federal deficit, caused by irresponsible spending initiatives. The Liberal Party should not exacerbate our recession by forming a coalition with extreme left wing ideologues who have no concept of financial responsibility or restraint. It is bizarre how we can believe that the proposed ballooning of our deficit will overcome our current difficulties, when spending money we didn’t have was the reason for our financial collapse in the first place! Please don’t throw more fuel on the fire.

You are also, wittingly or not, unleashing regional forces in both Quebec and the West that will threaten Canada’s confederation. The West will not sit idly by while this Coalition, which has very little representation from the West, panders to the Bloc’s financial extortions. The Liberal Party had long prided itself in being a centrist party which stood for a strong federal government and eschewed any co-operation or compromise with the separatists from Quebec. Yet, over a mere weekend, that whole legacy has been thrown under the bus, as the once champion of Canada’s unity and federalism has sold out for a few months of extreme socialism, propped up by a Party whose very existence is to break up Canada.

I have decided to write this letter to 15 Liberal MPs who I have identified as having moderate to strong social conservative values. I ask you to look around the proposed Coalition of MPs and ask yourself honestly if these politicians reflect your views of life, family, and freedom. In truth, the Coalition can only be described as godless, socialist revolutionaries who will be intent on pushing forward their destructive agenda, regardless of the cost to our nation’s social and financial fabric.

For the good of our country, and on behalf of all social conservatives in this country who have supported you in your political vocation in the defense of the unborn and the Canadian family, I implore you to consider the good of our nation and its families over your Party’s leadership. I encourage you to discuss this matter with other socially conservative Liberal Party members because the hesitation that you are most certainly experiencing right now is being shared by them also.

For the good of our country, don’t let this Coalition happen.

Yours truly,

John Pacheco
Social Conservatives United
www.socon.ca

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PostPosted: 12/ 04/ 08 6:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OTTAWA — Frank Valeriote does not favour a coalition government and instead hopes Prime Minister Stephen Harper can work toward rescuing the Canadian economy.

“I believe in working toward a solution, not working toward a coalition,” Guelph’s Liberal MP said Wednesday.

Valeriote added he does not believe a Liberal-NDP coalition, with support from the Bloc Quebecois, will unseat the Tories.

“I have given no thought to that,” Valeriote said when asked whether he saw himself in a cabinet role under such an arrangement. “I am not, frankly, anticipating moving into government.” (Source)

Opponents of the Socialist-Separatist Coalition:

Conservative Party MPs = 143

Frank Valeriote, Liberal MP (Guelph) = 1

Total = 144

Total MPs Needed = 154

Additional MPs Required = 10

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PostPosted: 12/ 04/ 08 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

do not forget the 2 independants, Bill Casey in NS & André Arthur QC who normally vote Conservative.

143 + 2 independants + Valeriote = 146

Additional MP's needed = 8

Also rumours are out there that 1 or 2 Bloc members are very unhappy with the Bloc.. Cardin a Bloc MP who voted against gay marriage plus maybe one or 2 more.
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PostPosted: 12/ 04/ 08 7:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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do not forget the 2 independants, Bill Casey in NS & André Arthur QC who normally vote Conservative.

143 + 2 independants + Valeriote = 146

Additional MP's needed = 8

Also rumours are out there that 1 or 2 Bloc members are very unhappy with the Bloc.. Cardin a Bloc MP who voted against gay marriage plus maybe one or 2 more.


Yes, I just was about to add that.

We are down to 8!

We need to focus and keep this number in front of us.

We have to focus on MPs who can still think and have Canada's interest at heart. I listed 15 of them who might be.

Those are the ones I am going to be focusing on....
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PostPosted: 12/ 04/ 08 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Surely we can find 8 Liberal MPs.
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PostPosted: 12/ 04/ 08 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have heard Casey will back a coalition government.
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PostPosted: 12/ 04/ 08 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have heard Casey will back a coalition government.


I wonder how that will go over in his constituency.
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PostPosted: 12/ 04/ 08 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Forget John McKay from that list, he stood up in the House on tuesday to pledge his support for it.
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PostPosted: 12/ 04/ 08 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bill Casey is already blathering about how the Liberals will respect the Atlantic Accord.

Sadly, I expect he is safe, much as Scott Brison is.
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PostPosted: 12/ 04/ 08 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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FriedmanForever wrote:
I have heard Casey will back a coalition government.


I wonder how that will go over in his constituency.


Well because the coalition won't run anybody against him (voteforenvironment endorsed him last time).

The guy won 69% of the vote last time, so I'd say he's very safe. The person I blame for that whole imbroglio is Peter Mackay (who I have disliked since the PC leadership race). Why did he tell Casey that voting on the budget wouldn't result in expulsion?

(As for that breaking the Atlantic Accord stuff... his initial reaction to the budget: "I have never seen a budget that has had more in it for the people of my riding than this one does.")
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PostPosted: 12/ 04/ 08 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look for Liberal and NDP MP's in marginal ridings for the most likely to bolt.
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PostPosted: 12/ 04/ 08 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm wondering if there are any CPC MP's that SUPPORT the coalition?
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Bedrock Lib weighs in: Realist Liberals should cross the floor
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