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 Posted: 06/ 29/ 08 12:30 pm Post subject: An Abortion Conspiracy Against Canada (Morgentaller OoC) |
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I’d like to make this humble request that Canadians from coast to coast consider boycotting Canada Day celebrations this year because of the disgraceful and outrageous act of awarding the Order of Canada to the notorious abortionist and baby killer, Henry Morgentaller.
IT IS BEING ALLEGED... that the Governor General, Michaëlle Jean, and our Chief Supreme Court Justice, Beverly McLachlin, along with others of the pro-abort cabal have allegedly conspired against any sort of procedural fairness and defied the convention of selecting the recipients of the Order of Country on an unanimous basis.
Aside from the inexcusable selection of Morgentaller, what is even more disturbing was the complete undercover operation of his selection. By refusing Canadians the right to debate such a controversial choice well beforehand, it is clear that we have lost any sort of trust or respect we should have for our appointed leaders. It is very apparent that those responsible for this alleged atrocity knew full well that Morgentaller’s selection would have resulted in a highly antagonistic, partisan, and acrimonious debate, and there would not have been the political momentum to allow him to receive the award. Rather than risk this possibility, this Star Chamber, who is apparently unconcerned with the overwhelming rejection of Morgentaller as a national hero (see Globe & Mail Poll here), has allegedly decided to arrogantly change the rules in mid-flight and award him national hero’s status on behalf of ALL the citizens of Canada.
We must spread the word concerning this insult to the existing members of the Order of Canada who are either pro-life or have the common decency to understand the divisive nature of awarding the Order to a notorious and unrepentant abortionist. It is my hope that, even now, enough public pressure can be summoned to reverse this provocative and violent decision. In the event that this “ceremony” goes ahead, we must encourage past recipients to turn in their Award for the sake of either the unborn or basic decency itself.
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| Posted: 06/ 29/ 08 12:34 pm Post subject: |
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Remember this this poll?
The Order of Canada Star Chamber sure has the support of Canadians alright. 
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 Edward Kennedy
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| Posted: 06/ 29/ 08 1:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Paycheck wrote: | Remember this this poll?
The Order of Canada Star Chamber sure has the support of Canadians alright. |
Fascism seems to be sprading from hrc's to other places.
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| Posted: 06/ 30/ 08 1:29 am Post subject: |
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How dare someone even consider bestowing a Dominion honour upon someone who is vastly divisive in the national context?
This is the equivalent of giving the Order of Canada to Jacque Parizeau, Rene Levesque, Bernard Landry, Pauline Marois, or Lucien Bouchard, Michel Gaultier, or Gille Duceppe.
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Peter O'Donnell
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| Actually, I would say it's far worse. I would disagree with the politics of the people on that list, but only in the sense that I wish Quebec were an enthusiastic part of the Canadian federation. I can hardly blame anyone for wanting out of it at this point, but Morgentaler stands for unnecessary death and surely that is far worse than separatism. And there is no chance of any of those separatists being awarded the Order of Canada either, nor would they seek it. |
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| TomFoolery Joined: 18 Dec 2005 Total posts: 5371
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| Posted: 06/ 30/ 08 3:18 am Post subject: |
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| My spidey senses tell me this Morgentaler charade is premeditated interference by the Liberal Party as a way to kickstart an election campaign and get the public issues raised that will speak to their core constituents comprised of irresponsible whim worshippers. |
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| BigAl12 Joined: 16 Nov 2005 Total posts: 22 Gender: Unknown
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| Posted: 06/ 30/ 08 6:09 am Post subject: |
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| Any chance somebody like Jean Vanier would give up their order of Canada medal? |
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| Heartofsong83 Joined: 29 Apr 2005 Total posts: 13130 Location: Up in the woods... Age: 26 Gender: Male
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| Posted: 06/ 30/ 08 10:52 am Post subject: |
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From this article, it seems MP's are trying to block the nomination - doesn't say any names though:
Confirmed: Advisory Council Has Voted to Award Order of Canada to Abortionist Henry Morgentaler
Pro-life organizations and the public appear to have been deliberately blind-sided by sudden decision for major holiday weekend
OTTAWA, June 29, 2008 (LifeSiteNews.com) - LifeSiteNews has received confirmation through various sources that the Order of Canada Advisory Council has indeed voted to award the Order of Canada to notorious abortionist and militant atheist Henry Morgentaler today or tomorrow. There is reported to be a movement among Members of Parliament and others to attempt to stop the award or at least protest it as being inappropriate and against the opinion of a majority of Canadians.
In an article in the National Post today, columnist Douglas Farrow reports that "The decision, which is to be announced in time for Canada Day, is clearly not driven by popular demand. For example, an online poll by the Globe and Mail, with over 300,000 respondents, went 92% to 8% against giving the award to Morgentaler."
The public and leaders of various organizations opposed to the granting of the Order of Canada to Morgentaler seem to have been deliberately blind-sided by this sudden development over Canada's major annual holiday weekend when most are pre-occupied by family and community activities. Nevertheless, pro-life organizations are scrambling to get as many people as possible to inundate the Governor General, the Prime Minister and Canada's MPs with emails and telephone calls protesting the decision.
http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2008/jun/08063001.html |
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| T.G. Joined: 08 Dec 2006 Total posts: 2929 Location: Ontario Gender: Male
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| Posted: 06/ 30/ 08 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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| BigAl12 wrote: | | Any chance somebody like Jean Vanier would give up their order of Canada medal? |
For sure. Maybe not Vanier, but others will turn them in. |
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I suspect Harper will be opposed to this decision. After all, Morgentaller's opposition to partial birth abortion is just too right-wing for abortion absolutist Harper. Here's an excelllent opinion piece on the issue of Morgentaler's anticipated "honour".
http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fullcomment/archive/2008/06/29/douglas-farrow-quot-henry-morgentaler-s-canada-is-not-my-canada-quot.aspx
| Quote: | Douglas Farrow: "Henry Morgentaler’s Canada is not my Canada"
Posted: June 29, 2008, 7:16 PM by Yoni Goldstein
Word on the street is that, barring an unlikely 11th-hour intervention, Dr. Henry Morgentaler, our country’s most famous abortionist, will be inducted into the Order of Canada.
The decision, which is to be announced in time for Canada Day, is clearly not driven by popular demand. For example, an online poll by the Globe and Mail, with over 300,000 respondents, went 92% to 8% against giving the award to Morgentaler.
Nor, I've been told, was the decision a unanimous one, as is normally the case. No doubt we will be hearing much more about this in the next few days — talking points were being circulated among MPs as early as Friday — and perhaps the facts will find their way out in spite of the spin. If and when we have the facts, here are four questions I believe must be addressed:
First, did the Chief Justice of Canada, Beverley McLachlin, who is chair of the awards committee, preside over this decision? And if so, why did she not recuse herself? The award to Morgentaler is not only linked to the subject of abortion — a matter on which Canada has been in legislative limbo for many years — it is a clear endorsement of the practice of abortion. But the constitutionality of some new legislation limiting that practice may yet be raised before her court. If it is, will she then recuse herself?
Second, how successful will the government be in distancing itself from this decision, which (if word on the street is to be trusted) it is preparing to do? The government has two members on the committee, one of which is a deputy minister. Perhaps these members were opposed to the selection of Morgentaler, for whatever reason. But if there was a change of procedure, did they consent to it, knowing what the result would be? (If there was a change, and they did not consent, that makes our first question still more poignant.)
Third, what business has the committee making such a controversial award, when it so gravely affronts a very substantial number of Canadians and, indeed, deeply offends their consciences? Some argue that this “brave” man must not be denied his reward for bringing down an unjust law restricting abortion. But many others argue that the real injustice is that Canada, thanks in large part to Morgentaler and his disciples, has no law at all against cutting up babies in the womb — indeed it is the only “civilized” country without such a law. Does the committee presume to settle this national argument for us? How else are we to read their decision to make the award? And what does that say about the state of democracy in Canada?
Last but not least, how will the living members of the Order of Canada — those, that is, who believe, for whatever reason, that a great wrong is being done here — respond to the situation? Will they return their own medals in protest? How will MPs and, for that matter, the Prime Minister respond? How will the bishops and religious leaders respond? How will the people of Canada respond, those who cannot in good conscience bear the burden of being told that abortion is a “Canadian value”?
I can tell you that I myself am pondering this last question very seriously. Henry Morgentaler’s Canada is not my Canada. I’m with the late Louis-Philippe de Grandpré, sometime justice of the Supreme Court of Canada: “Abortion at any stage of pregnancy is murder, and any attack against the fetus is a crime. To kill a fetus is murder.” |
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In the other thread on this topic I suggested that (rather than emailing or phoning or writing the Governor General, the Prime Minister, etc. etc., all of whom have been emailed before, ignored us before, and will ignore us again now), perhaps we might try THIS :
Either, as Paycheck suggests, we just boycott Canada Day celebrations tomorrow, OR ...
We spend ALL day at such celebrations, wearing prominent BLACK ARMBANDS, to serve as a sombre contrast to our fellow-idiot Canadians' Pollyanna flag-waving.
If we have a matching sombre look on our faces it should surely provoke others to ask "Why so glum, chum, on this happiest of all days?"
Which of course gives you the opportunity to explain to your oblivious fellow-citizen just what a bunch of creeps, liars and manipulators we are led by.
(You might use the opportunity to segue briefly into a short lesson to fellow-Canuck about what's going on in this excuse for a country, viz. the HRC debacles, Steyn, Levant, and esp. Boissoin.)
Perhaps that might serve as a little bit of a wake-up call to your interlocutor, and though he may initially resent having his parade rained on, it just might provoke him to wonder :
"Just what the Hell am I celebrating for, anyway? This country has gone to the dogs (Morgentaler being one of them) and I'd better get off my butt and do something about it!"
Of course if this protest is to have any visiiblity then, since time is so short, it may require more than just scrounging up some black cloth for your armband. We'll all have to be firing off emails and making calls to friends all this evening, to spread the word.
But at least the result will be LOCAL, and VISIBLE ... as opposed to an email to the Governor-General.
(You KNOW her flunkies have already re-coded her spam-blockers to filter and delete any incoming email with the key word 'Morgentaler' in it, don't you?)
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| Eddy Joined: 25 Jan 2006 Total posts: 1385 Gender: Male
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| Posted: 06/ 30/ 08 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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| freenewf wrote: | In the other thread on this topic I suggested that (rather than emailing or phoning or writing the Governor General, the Prime Minister, etc. etc., all of whom have been emailed before, ignored us before, and will ignore us again now), perhaps we might try THIS :
Either, as Paycheck suggests, we just boycott Canada Day celebrations tomorrow, OR ...
We spend ALL day at such celebrations, wearing prominent BLACK ARMBANDS, to serve as a sombre contrast to our fellow-idiot Canadians' Pollyanna flag-waving.
If we have a matching sombre look on our faces it should surely provoke others to ask "Why so glum, chum, on this happiest of all days?"
Which of course gives you the opportunity to explain to your oblivious fellow-citizen just what a bunch of creeps, liars and manipulators we are led by.
(You might use the opportunity to segue briefly into a short lesson to fellow-Canuck about what's going on in this excuse for a country, viz. the HRC debacles, Steyn, Levant, and esp. Boissoin.)
Perhaps that might serve as a little bit of a wake-up call to your interlocutor, and though he may initially resent having his parade rained on, it just might provoke him to wonder :
"Just what the Hell am I celebrating for, anyway? This country has gone to the dogs (Morgentaler being one of them) and I'd better get off my butt and do something about it!"
Of course if this protest is to have any visiiblity then, since time is so short, it may require more than just scrounging up some black cloth for your armband. We'll all have to be firing off emails and making calls to friends all this evening, to spread the word.
But at least the result will be LOCAL, and VISIBLE ... as opposed to an email to the Governor-General.
(You KNOW her flunkies have already re-coded her spam-blockers to filter and delete any incoming email with the key word 'Morgentaler' in it, don't you?) |
I emailed the info@ address half a dozen times since Saturday evening, and have not gotten any sort of reply. Does Her Honour count as a public servant? I guess not. |
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Edward Kennedy
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| Eddy wrote: | | freenewf wrote: | In the other thread on this topic I suggested that (rather than emailing or phoning or writing the Governor General, the Prime Minister, etc. etc., all of whom have been emailed before, ignored us before, and will ignore us again now), perhaps we might try THIS :
Either, as Paycheck suggests, we just boycott Canada Day celebrations tomorrow, OR ...
We spend ALL day at such celebrations, wearing prominent BLACK ARMBANDS, to serve as a sombre contrast to our fellow-idiot Canadians' Pollyanna flag-waving.
If we have a matching sombre look on our faces it should surely provoke others to ask "Why so glum, chum, on this happiest of all days?"
Which of course gives you the opportunity to explain to your oblivious fellow-citizen just what a bunch of creeps, liars and manipulators we are led by.
(You might use the opportunity to segue briefly into a short lesson to fellow-Canuck about what's going on in this excuse for a country, viz. the HRC debacles, Steyn, Levant, and esp. Boissoin.)
Perhaps that might serve as a little bit of a wake-up call to your interlocutor, and though he may initially resent having his parade rained on, it just might provoke him to wonder :
"Just what the Hell am I celebrating for, anyway? This country has gone to the dogs (Morgentaler being one of them) and I'd better get off my butt and do something about it!"
Of course if this protest is to have any visiiblity then, since time is so short, it may require more than just scrounging up some black cloth for your armband. We'll all have to be firing off emails and making calls to friends all this evening, to spread the word.
But at least the result will be LOCAL, and VISIBLE ... as opposed to an email to the Governor-General.
(You KNOW her flunkies have already re-coded her spam-blockers to filter and delete any incoming email with the key word 'Morgentaler' in it, don't you?) |
I emailed the info@ address half a dozen times since Saturday evening, and have not gotten any sort of reply. Does Her Honour count as a public servant? I guess not. |
No but she qualifies as a lot of other things, ALL BAD.
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Cod Father
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It is nice to see folks being pro-active on this matter however, 11th hour things have been known to occur before.
It would make the right-wing look like extremists if folks showed up to protest something that was only a rumor and never happened. The right-wing would end up looking like a laughing stock on Canada Day!
I haven't seen the official press release yet. But damn, I'd come prepared and as soon as the announcement has been made, the protest begins.
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