Edmonton Police hate crimes unit - a model for best practice

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Edmonton Police hate crimes unit - a model for best practice

Postby fourhorses » 06/ 13/ 08 10:17 am

Edmonton Police hate crimes unit - a model for best practice

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B'Nai Brith Audit 2005 Analysis
by Richard Warman
The wealth of action and success by the Edmonton Police hate crimes unit in addressing the problem of hate, both on the Internet and elsewhere within Edmonton, stands as a model for best practices in effective community policing.

http://www.bnaibrith.ca/audit2005Analysis.html#s2





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then:
Composition and analysis notes of Paul Fromm



The Edmonton Police "Hate Squad" & the Warman Connection On Stormfront.Org:




* Sgt. Stephen Camp the head of the Edmonton Police "Hate Crimes" unit was posting calling himself "Estate"
* Richard Warman was posting using the name "Pogue Mahone"


Now you might think on a message board that receives upwards of 500 new posts a day, their paths would never meet. yet:





In a discussion thread entitled: Re: Vancouver Zundel Protest?

Sgt. Stephen Camp posted on 08-06-2004, 01:42 PM:
Hey ss-88. It's too bad u werent still here in alberta. You would have a strong turnout. Hope plans in BC go well.




Then a few hours later Richard Warman comes along and posts on 08-06-2004,
06:12 PM:
It's good to see the organising in the West is continuing. Keep it up
brothers!




Sgt. Stephen Camp posted on 06-22-2004, 12:43 PM:
Would have been there. Did not even know about it. Looks like a decent turnout for short notice. Is their anyway to send notice earlier?





Richard Warman comes along again a few hours later on 06-22-2004, 08:21 PM and posts:
Congratulations to all who made it out and thanks for showing that Zundel is not alone in his struggle!!!





Sgt. Stephen Camp posted on Shiria/Islamic law in Canada on 08-06-2004, 02:03 PM and said:
Did anyone see the CBC newscast on Islamic Law in Canada. The notorious Liberal Federal Gov't has allowed disputes, and other matters to be resolved through a tribunal from the Islamic community, based on their own religious beliefs. The libs say it is to divert the caseload from our courts.

To me, all criminal and civil matters should be resolved through the Canadian Courts, and not based on some foreign, radical, backward, medieval and extreme religous beliefs. My kids are going to be living in a Muslim Country at this rate. Praise freaken Allah, eh!




Richard Warman is the next poster in the thread on 08-08-2004, 10:40 AM and posts:
Yeah I hear you this is not good news.





So this raises the question, did Richard Warman know that Estate" was actually Sgt. Camp, the head of the Edmonton Hate crimes unit? And if he did know, were Richard Warman's posts meant to help establish the "Estate" identity on Stormfront as a "legitimate" person? Why is Richard Warman involved in so many threads that Sgt Camp is also involved in? Most of Sgt. Camps posts had to do with Edmonton. But of course, Warman has no connection to Edmonton, yet he is posting on those threads.



Richard Warman clearly knows Sgt. Camp. In Warman v Glenn Bahr & Western Canada for Us, Sgt. Camp told Paul Fromm, agent for Mr. Bahr, that he called Richard Warman -- in far off Ottawa -- to ask about an ARA poster denouncing Glenn Bahr that was being slapped up in Red Deer, Alberta. Why wouldn't he call the local Reds Deer detachment of the RCMP?



Warman filed THREE Section 13 complaints in Edmonton area. Those are:
1. Glenn Bahr
2. Western Canada for Us [Bahr and Western Canada for Us was ONE
hearing with two named respondents]
3. Peter Kouba



Guess who was the star witness at both Canadian Human Rights Tribunal hearing to uphold Warman's complaints? Sgt. Stephen Camp.



In both the decisions of the CHRT, Sgt. Camp is quoted extensively. See the decisions:
<a href=http://www.chrt-tcdp.gc.ca/search/vi...=_e&isruling=0 >[Bahr and WCFU]</a> and <a href=http://www.chrt-tcdp.gc.ca/search/vi...=_e&isruling=0 >[Peter Kouba]</a>



It seems to be coming together that we are seeing the tip of the iceberg of the spying / infiltration operation that was used against Stormfront, Freedomsite, and Free Dominion. This rag tag group included Warman, the Edmonton Police hate squad, the CHRC and other "anti-racist" activists like communist Shane Ruttle-Martinez (who, like Warman, pretended to be a woman online, and even went as far as to talk dirty to men on message bards.) Keep in mind, Richard Warman testified that "Pogue Mahone" was only ONE of the accounts he uses on Stormfront.Org. When my lawyer asked Warman the other names he used. Warman claimed to forget all of them! (talk about a super selective memory)


With that as the background, guess who is offering their "expertise" to train Police Forces and others on how to infiltrate and be "proactive" on Internet message boards. The Simon Wiesenthal Centre! Since the mid-1990s, the Wiesenthalers have been ferocious enemies of free speech on the Internet and, in the late 1990s leaned on Canadian ISPs to cut off White nationalist dissenters who might have their websites there.

See their website: http://www.fswc.ca/



Infiltration of websites such as Stormfront is part of an organized and darker tactic that is now employed by politicized Police agencies and censorship enforcers. The Friends of Simon Wiesenthal Center for holocaust Studies is now offering a new course aimed at Canadian Law inforcement agencies and "investigators" entitled "Investigating Internet Extremism".


According to the Wiesenthal Centre's website:
"The workshop works from the premise that in order for law enforcement to be effective in the arena of hate, it must be proactive rather than reactive." The course description continues "Investigating Internet Hate consists of three components; namely infiltration, Internet tools and legalities. In the first section, police officers are introduced to the most frequented web forums, allowing them to become 'part of the community' and investigate varying groups and their activities." [Emphasis added]

(Copied from Wiesenthal website: http://www.fswc.ca/dth_law_enforcement.aspx )


Among some of the Police forces that the Wiesenthal Centre list as recipients of their "training" includes: Ontario Provincial Police, Owen Sound Police Service, Kingston Police Service, Ottawa Police Service, Barrie Police and the Vancouver Police Service.





CHRC is not interested in Edmonton Police HATE.



In 2006, Glenn Bahr tried to have a Section 13 complaint laid against Sgt. Stephen Camp for posting of hate messages. The CHRC always happy to protect it's friends, ruled on August 10, 2006 that he could not even file a complaint against Camp. "Members of the Edmonton Police perform their duties pursuant to the Criminal Code of Canada, as as such, are protected under that code when performing duties undercover as part of an investigation"


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Postby fourhorses » 06/ 13/ 08 10:36 am

Steno Trans page 16

During the course of the hearing, the evidence will show that the Respondent, Peter Kouba, has posted discriminatory in two websites, an American based website called Stromfront and a Canadian website called Western Canada For Us

The evidence will also show that the Respondent posted discriminatory messages using the alias proud18 in Western Canada For Us using the pseudonym WhiteEuro Canadian

http://www.richardwarman.com/transcript ... lume_1.pdf




From reading the transcripts, it appears as though the evidence filed was circumstantial at best, linking Kouba under his admitted pseudonym to another poster pseudonym who also had or purported to have some sort of Czech background. Kouba denied being the other poster and there seemed to be no direct link to Kouba as the other poster. This was also the scenario for the "post-claim" evidence filed and provided to Kouba on day 2.

Additionally, if I read this transcript correctly, Warman was allowed to enter evidence as a handwriting expert.


BTW - the star witness in the Kouba case was Sgt Camp.







REASONS FOR DECISION
MEMBER: Karen A. Jensen


2006 CHRT 50
2006/11/22


[1] This complaint is about whether Peter Kouba, using the pseudonyms "proud18" and "WhiteEuroCanadian", communicated hate messages over the Internet, contrary to s. 13(1) of the Canadian Human Rights Act ("the Act").


[3] The Respondent denied that he communicated the messages. He alleged that the impugned messages were passed off as his own.


[14] The Respondent did not attend the first day of the hearing......



A. Question 1 - Can the Tribunal consider material that post-dates the filing of the complaint?


[19] Although the Respondent denied having communicated the post-complaint material, he did not object to its production on the basis that he had been given insufficient notice of the material. Given therefore, that the evidence relates to the ongoing nature of the alleged violations of the Act, and the fact that the Respondent had notice through the complaint form and the disclosure of the material that additional material would be presented during the hearing, I find that it is appropriate for the Tribunal to consider the evidence that post-dates the filing of the complaint.



http://www.chrt-tcdp.gc.ca/search/view_ ... isruling=1




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Postby fourhorses » 06/ 13/ 08 10:48 am


Karen Jensen:


(iii) The Respondent's Explanation


[115] In his Statement of Particulars and closing argument, the Respondent denied having communicated the hate messages on stormfront.org. He argued that his postings on stormfront.org had been subject to tampering. He stated that the Complainant had "picked through" the postings on the websites and presented only those that had been altered. The Complainant ignored the "many posts" where the Respondent asked why his postings and words were being changed by the website administrators.


[116] In his Statement of Particulars, the Respondent stated that he would bring with him to the hearing copies of postings to prove his defense. The Respondent did not follow through on that promise. Furthermore, he did not testify or lead any evidence in support of his allegation that the impugned postings were altered, edited or tampered with in any way. As the Tribunal noted in Warman v. Kulbashian, supra, at para. 115, it is not sufficient for the Respondent to make out a defense of this nature by hints and innuendo during the course of the hearing. If he is alleging that he has been the victim of a "set up", or that his messages have been tampered with, then it is incumbent upon Mr. Kouba to lead evidence in support of those allegations.


[117] Mr. Kouba claimed that he had no way of proving that he did not communicate the messages, because his postings on both websites were removed after he was banned. Whether this was the case or not cannot be established since there was no evidence presented on the issue of the removal of the messages. However, there were other means by which Mr. Kouba could have provided evidence that he did not make the postings. For example, he could have testified under oath that he did not make the postings or explained how he learned of the tampering and what he did about it. He could also have called other members of the stormfront.org Canadian Forum or the WCFU to testify that they had observed that his postings had been changed. Mr. Kouba's claim that he was unable to defend himself against the complaint rings hollow in light of the options that were available to him.


[118] The evidence of Sergeant Camp was that at no point during the conversation of March 29, 2005, did Mr. Kouba ever indicate that anyone had tampered with, edited or changed any of his postings on either the stormfront.org discussion forum or the WCFU website. Sergeant Camp further testified that the Edmonton Police's investigation of the members of the WCFU did not uncover any evidence that Mr. Kouba had complained to any of the WCFU members that his postings had been subject to tampering.


[119] Based on the fact that the Respondent did not lead any evidence regarding the allegation that his postings on the stormfront.org website were tampered with, and the testimony provided by Sergeant Camp that the Respondent did not complain earlier about any kind of tampering, I find that this allegation has no substance.


[120] The Respondent further argued, in his closing submissions, that there was no direct evidence that he was the communicator of the hate messages in this case. Direct evidence would involve testimony from a witness who actually saw the Respondent communicate the messages or a document that directly establishes that the Respondent communicated the messages. In cross-examination, the Complainant admitted that he did not have direct knowledge of whether the Respondent communicated the impugned material. The Complainant stated that his belief that this was the case was based on the circumstantial evidence that he had gathered over time.


[121] It is not a requirement in law that facts in issue in a case be proved by direct evidence. In many cases, the facts may only be established through the proof of other facts (Sopinka, Lederman and Bryant, The Law of Evidence in Canada, 2nd ed. (Toronto: Butterworths, 1999), at p. 38). This is what is known as circumstantial evidence.


[122] As has often been noted in human rights jurisprudence, discrimination is not a practice that one would expect to see displayed overtly (see for example: Morin v. Canada (Attorney General) 2005 CHRT 41 at para. 191). In fact, rarely are there cases where one can show by direct evidence that discrimination is being practiced. The Tribunal therefore, is often required to consider all of the circumstances in determining if discrimination has occurred. An inference of discrimination may be drawn where the evidence offered in support of it renders such an inference more probable than the other possible inferences or hypotheses.


[123] As in many cases of discrimination, there is no direct evidence in this case that the Respondent communicated the hate messages. Therefore, in making a determination regarding the identity of proud18 and WhiteEuroCanadian, the Tribunal must assess the circumstantial evidence that was presented.


[124] During the hearing, the Respondent objected to the introduction of some of the evidence on the basis that it was irrelevant and was hearsay. He also argued, at the end of the hearing, that all of the evidence regarding the identity of the communicator of the hate messages was hearsay and should, therefore, be accorded very little weight. At the hearing, I ruled that the evidence regarding the Respondent's identity was relevant, and that section 50(3)(c) of the Act authorized the Tribunal to accept hearsay evidence. On that basis, the evidence was admitted.


[125] The Tribunal is, however, mindful of the potential vulnerabilities of hearsay evidence. One such potential weakness is that the person who is said to have made the hearsay statements is not present at the hearing and therefore, his or her evidence cannot be tested. Another problem with hearsay evidence may be that its reliability and authenticity are not certain. The frailties of hearsay evidence may, however, be addressed by the weight that is accorded to it as the Tribunal makes its decision. The weight that is accorded to evidence also depends, to a large extent, upon its probative value, or the degree to which it tends to establish the facts in support of which it is presented.


[126] Some of the hearsay evidence adduced by the Commission with regard to the Respondent's identity was not particularly reliable or probative and therefore, I have given it very little weight. For example, the Commission produced copies of postings on stormfront.org regarding the alleged participation of the Respondent in a radio call-in show. It was alleged that in one of these postings the Respondent, writing as "proud18", responded to assertions by another member of the stormfront.org Forum that proud18 was "Peter Kuda" and that he had participated in the radio show. In the posting in question, proud18 admitted neither to being "Peter Kuda" nor to appearing on the radio station. Therefore, I find that the probative value of this evidence is weak, and I have accorded little weight to this evidence.


[127] However, Sergeant Camp's testimony, the Witness Statement Form, and the postings on stormfront.org and the WCFU website presented in the previous section are highly probative and reliable. Hence, for the following reasons, I have accorded this evidence significant weight.



[128] Sergeant Camp gave credible testimony about the basis for his conclusion that proud18 and WhiteEuroCanadian were the pseudonyms used by the Respondent. I find Sergeant Camp's testimony with regard to the meeting of March 29, 2005, to be particularly salient. During the meeting, Sergeant Camp referred to proud18's postings on stormfront.org and WhiteEuroCanadian's postings on the WCFU website. Sergeant Camp's evidence was that Mr. Kouba did not deny having made those postings and indeed, attempted to justify them by saying that he made them not for the purpose of promoting hatred, but to promote white nationalism and white pride.


[129] Mr. Kouba had the opportunity to challenge Sergeant Camps's evidence through cross-examination. He chose not to do so and in fact, was not in attendance on the day that Sergeant Camp testified. Moreover, he chose not to take the stand himself and provide his side of the story. Mr. Kouba can hardly then say, at the close of the hearing, that the truth of what Sergeant Camp reported about the meeting that took place on March 29, 2005 has not been tested and therefore, should not be given much weight. I find, therefore, on a balance of probabilities, that Mr. Kouba made the statements as recounted by Sergeant Camp in his testimony.


[130] During the hearing, the Respondent admitted that he authored the Witness Statement Form. Therefore, its authenticity is established. The Respondent argued, however, that the Witness Statement Form did not include an admission on his part that he was proud18 or WhiteEuroCanadian. I take the Respondent's point. However, the probative value of the Witness Statement Form lies in the fact that it establishes that Glenn Bahr expelled Peter Kouba from the WCFU because of ideological differences related to Bahr's espousal of neo-Nazi philosophy.


[131] When the contents of the Witness Statement Form are compared to the postings made by proud18 on the stormfront.org website and by SS-88 on the WCFU website, to the statements made by Peter Kouba in his meeting with Sergeant Camp on March 27, 2005, a strong inference arises that Peter Kouba was the individual using the pseudonyms "proud18" and "WhiteEuroCanadian" to communicate the hate messages.



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Postby fourhorses » 06/ 13/ 08 10:49 am

Witness Statement Form



Peter Kouba wrote:

A/ I have no affiliation with Glenn Bahr or WCFU.

b/ When the WCFU came on line G.B. kicked me out and I was banned due to severe ideological differences. I was locked out of the WCFU site by G.B.

c/ I had no influence on the content's of the WCFU site. G.B. had total control of the site.

d/ I left and at the same time got kicked out of WCFU because G.B's Nazi idealogy and intent to make the WCFU site a hate site. (sic throughout)


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(2) Penalty


[139] Section 54(1)(c) of the Act permits the Tribunal to order a respondent in a s. 13 complaint, where the complaint has been substantiated, to pay a penalty of up to $10,000. The Commission requested an Order that the Respondent be required to pay a penalty in the amount of $7,500 in this case.


[140] In deciding whether to order the Respondent to pay a penalty in this case, Parliament has directed, under s. 54(1.1), that the Tribunal take the following factors into account:
    1. The nature, circumstances, extent and gravity of the discriminatory practice;
    2. The willfulness or intent of the person who engaged in the discriminatory practice;
    3. Any prior discriminatory practices that the person has engaged in; and
    4. The person's ability to pay the penalty.


[141] I find that the numerous hate messages in this case that were communicated over a period of nearly three years were highly contemptuous and injurious. They portrayed members of the targeted groups as evil and criminal by nature. The especially troubling part about the Respondent's messages is not just that they were profoundly bigoted; they also willfully and intentionally exhorted readers to share their negative experiences with members of the targeted groups with other Forum readers. In so doing, the Respondent encouraged readers to participate in a campaign to convince the "White world" that members of the targeted groups are worthy of nothing but the highest degree of hatred and contempt. This active promotion of hatred and contempt towards members of the targeted groups is fundamentally at odds with the goal of the Canadian Human Rights Act, which is to promote a society in which all are free from discrimination and all are worthy of equal opportunity regardless of personal traits such as race, national or ethnic origin, colour, and sexual orientation.


[142] There was, however, no information that the Respondent had engaged in any prior discriminatory practices.


[143] Nevertheless, taking into account the nature, circumstances, gravity and intentional nature of the communication in the present case, the suggested penalty of $7,500 seems appropriate. The Respondent did not provide the Tribunal with any indication of his ability to pay the suggested penalty of $7,500. Therefore, in the absence of any such information from the Respondent, I find that there is no reason to reduce the penalty.


[144] Taking all of these factors into account, I order the Respondent to pay a penalty in the amount of $7,500. Payment of the penalty shall be made by certified cheque or money order, payable to the "Receiver General for Canada", and must be received by the Tribunal within 120 days of the Respondent's being notified of this decision.



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Karen A. Jensen

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Re: Edmonton Police hate crimes unit - a model for best prac

Postby Connie Fournier » 06/ 13/ 08 11:15 am

fourhorses wrote:Edmonton Police hate crimes unit - a model for best practice

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B'Nai Brith Audit 2005 Analysis
by Richard Warman
The wealth of action and success by the Edmonton Police hate crimes unit in addressing the problem of hate, both on the Internet and elsewhere within Edmonton, stands as a model for best practices in effective community policing.

http://www.bnaibrith.ca/audit2005Analysis.html#s2


Oh, my gosh! I made the mistake of clicking on this link and reading the article and it nearly made me puke! How did you find that, 4H?? :shock:
"Some of my policing friends would be horrified by the fact that I`ve come to speak to an Anti-Racist Action conference this morning. Some of you are probably horrified by the fact that I just used the words `police`and `friends` in the same sentence." - Richard Warman, July 6, 2005
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Postby Connie Fournier » 06/ 13/ 08 11:32 am

If you want to read something really disturbing, try <a href=http://www.canadianheritage.gc.ca/multi/plan_action_plan/pdf/action_long_e.pdf>this</a>. It is the text of A Canada for All: Canada’s Action Plan Against Racism, the plan that Lucy mentioned in his first paragraph. Page 47 talks about the Canadian Human Rights Act, with a special mention of Section 13.
"Some of my policing friends would be horrified by the fact that I`ve come to speak to an Anti-Racist Action conference this morning. Some of you are probably horrified by the fact that I just used the words `police`and `friends` in the same sentence." - Richard Warman, July 6, 2005
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Re: Edmonton Police hate crimes unit - a model for best prac

Postby fourhorses » 06/ 13/ 08 4:57 pm

Connie Fournier wrote:
Oh, my gosh! I made the mistake of clicking on this link and reading the article and it nearly made me puke! How did you find that, 4H?? :shock:


There's more to this story, Connie.
The Glen Bahr story connects to this one.

Sgt Camp gave his testimony in the Bahr case in May of '06, where according to Fromm's analysis, Camp refused to name the officer who posted on Stormfront. Camp then testifies at the Kouba case in July '06.

In the Kouba case, Camp is less than forthcoming with the truth. He reiterates, I think on several occasions, that he monitored the Stromfront site. Nowhere does Camp disclose that he is actually the poster posting and chatting with Warman, who is posting under a pseudo.

Moreover, in the bahr testimony, just 6 weeks prior, Camp refuses to divulge the name of the officer who posted as Estate, which is Camp, himself.



From the Bahr case we learn the following about the Edmonton Police methods and about Sgt Camp:

EDMONTON. The Canadian Human Rights Tribunal inquiry into "hate" charges against Glenn Bahr heard admissions of spying on STORMFRONT (a popular White nationalist website --www.stormfront.org) and the now defunct Western Canada for Us website by Edmonton "hate squad" operatives and by then Canadian Human Rights Commission investigator Richard Warman. After first pleading "ongoing police investigation," former Edmonton hate squad head cop Const. -- now newly promoted to Sgt. -- Stephen Camp admitted that an officer used the name "Estate" to troll on STORMFRONT. Despite repeated questions from Mr. Bahr's legal representative Paul Fromm, Camp refused to give the name of the officer, citing fear that his picture might be posted on the Internet and put him in danger.Mr. Warman, a professional anti-racist, who has now made more than 20 complaints against Internet posters or websites he doesn't like eventually admitted to posting under the name Pogue Mahone (Gaelic for "Kiss my Ass") on STORMFRONT.


Earlier Sgt. Camp admitted that he had threatened Mr. Bahr's girlfriend with the loss of her child. He promised to call and did call social services to investigate potential abuse because of the "poisonous" environment caused by Mr. Bahr's Western Canada for Us website work on the computer in their apartment. Mr. Fromm was not allowed to ask whether parents with other unpopular beliefs -- say, religions that promoted a subservient role for women -- might be threatened with loss of their children.


Sgt. Camp admitted providing false information to Mr. Bahr during the raid when he seized not just computer equipment authorized in the warrant but even personal jewellery and a bomber jacket. Camp had told Mr. Bahr that he could face up to 10 years for "hate" charges under Sec. 319 of the Criminal Code. Under cross-examination, he admitted the maximum was two years. He justified handcuffing Mr. Bahr during the raid carried on by five officers as being necessary for the "safety" of his officers, despite the fact that Mr. Bahr was unarmed, alone, polite and co-operative. To protect his girlfriend from losing her child, Mr.Bahr, "a decent and honourable young man," Mr. Fromm said in his opening statement, "took full responsibility" for what had been a collaborative website, involving the efforts and input of many people. Mr. Fromm, in his opening statement, accused the Edmonton "hate squad" of being a "political police" of bullies behaving like police thugs in places like Cuba and Guatemala.


Although, the Edmonton Police have a bad reputation for corruption. Tribunal Member (chairman) Julie Lloyd refused to allow Mr. Fromm to put to Sgt. Camp a recent news story that the U.S. State Department had cited the Edmonton cops for their violations of human rights in their handling of arrests.






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Postby fourhorses » 06/ 13/ 08 4:58 pm

Ooops!

source = <a href=http://www.canadianfreespeech.com/portal/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=121&Itemid=35>CAFE; Paul Fromm's notes</a>
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Postby fourhorses » 06/ 13/ 08 5:49 pm

Here's Mark Steyn's new Maclean's column about Tuesday's human rights hearing. My favourite part is when he laughs at all the "human rights activists" cruising the white supremacist Stormfront website together:


I'm sure many Canadians have found themselves in that embarrassing situation where you cruise an Internet dating site, hook up with a hot blond 17-year-old cheerleader and arrange to meet only to find that Candii is, in fact, a 54-year-old overweight male accountant. Alas, the problem's far worse for a neo-Nazi hoping to find a friendly website and meet a few kindred spirits. There must be a few genuine white supremacists whooping it up over at "Stormfront," but they seem to be thin on the ground. Mr. Steacy, the CHRC's lead investigator, is a member of Stormfront; Richard Warman, celebrated Canadian "human rights" crusader and plaintiff on every CHRC case since 2002, is a member of Stormfront; and Sgt. Stephen Camp is a member of Stormfront. What proportion of Canada's "white supremacists" are, in fact, government employees? On a quiet day, chances must be pretty good that you'll log on and find the joint deserted except for "jadewarr" (Mr. Steacy) trying to entrap "estate" (Sgt. Camp) while "estate" (Sgt. Camp) is simultaneously trying to entrap "axetogrind" (Mr. Warman). "There really should be a register of pseudonyms," urged lawyer Doug Christie, "so that investigators don't wind up investigating each other."


Welcome to the wacky world of Canadian "human rights." If it sounds like a fetish club for servants of the Crown, well, that would be a lot cheaper. This is a long battle to reform a secretive and decadent institution. But Keith Martin is right: Section 13 should be repealed. We need a royal commission. And "jadewarr" and chums might be encouraged to find more useful employment.



Ezra Levant <a href=http://ezralevant.com/2008/03/mark-steyn-on-tuesdays-hearing.html>post</a> on March 27, 2008
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Postby Dicks Dad » 06/ 13/ 08 6:26 pm

Stephen Camp and his anti-hate unit posted the most vile hate messages on the stormfront website. Yet nothing happened to him for doing it. He still works for the RCMP!!!! Why are our so called police posting hate messages all over the internet instead of taking on real criminals?

Stephen camp also funded a hate website then had it shut down.

Monday, April 21, 2008
Dear Chief Mike Boyd,

I'm writing this letter out of anger and frustration with certain members of the Edmonton Police Service and how I have been treated. I have witnessed first hand the bullying, the lies, the blackmailing and threatening actions certain members mainly Sergeant Stephen Camp use to obtain false statements, information and results.

You may be familiar with my cases and me because I have written you and filed a number of complaints with Internal Affairs regarding these concerns. On December 12, 2005 I filed my first complaint regarding the actions of reg. No. 1766 Sergeant Stephen Camp and Reg. No. 2062 Constable Dave Huggins with Internal Affairs. The file was finally investigated and reviewed by you on November 21 2006. The findings were that the officers had complied with police procedures and standards. In the report I was given such excuses as my complaint fell out of the timeline allowed for such complaints. It wasn't taken under consideration that I was scared to file any complaints against Camp for fear of angering him and in retaliation putting my roommates daughter at risk. Such are the ways of gangsters to instill fear and cooperation. I felt the investigation conducted by Mark Hilton was inconclusive and more investigation should have been done to find the truths so I filed an appeal with the Law Enforcement Review Board.

During my Canadian Human Rights Tribunal I addressed another letter to you asking you to sit in on the hearings to see how Sergeant Camp conducted himself. During the tribunal he provided evidence, which was under a publication ban from my preliminary hearings in my criminal case. In my letter to you I also addressed this issue and was ignored. During the proceedings Camp lied under oath numerous times and ignored the publication ban, as the tribunal was open to the public and the media.

On Saturday, December 2, 2006 shortly after the Canadian Human Rights Tribunal's decision ordering me to pay $10,000.00 I sent yet another letter to you asking for the Edmonton Police Service to pay part of the penalty since two of it's members Sergeant Stephen Camp and undercover officer Mathew Williamson helped create, organize and finance the group and website Western Canada For Us. Again I was ignored.

Internal Affairs is now conducting a second investigation into the conduct of Sergeant Stephen Camp because of new allegations that have risen and old ones in which I appealed.

After five years I am left with more questions than answers. Is it standard EPS procedure to threaten family members with the removal of their children in order to obtain written statements so that they can be charged and found guilty?

Is Stephen Camp above the law, where provincial judges, oaths and courtroom rules don't apply to him? During my preliminary hearings he lied under oath and didn't return after recess to continue the proceedings. Instead he returned to court the next morning admitting to his lies the day before. The judge and the crown were not impressed by this officer's lack of judgment. These can be checked with the crown prosecutor Tania Sarkar, my attorney Doug Christie or the court transcripts. Camp seems to have a short and vague memory about certain things so I wouldn't bother asking him.

During 2004 was Stephen Camp in charge of removing Canadian citizens from Edmonton because their political and or religious views didn't agree with him? Camp deported me from Edmonton for these very reasons then vilified me on CBC The National shortly after.

"That inferior group is not wanted, that they're ah should be despised and scorned. Umm that they are umm ah… They should be oppressed and removed or removed from society." – Stephen Camp on CBC The National.

This is viewable on www.youtube.com by doing a search for Glenn Bahr.

Again I will outline my concerns and how I was treated by Stephen Camp and the Edmonton Police Service. It is my belief that Stephen Camp wanted to make headlines with his newly formed and funded Hate Crime Unit. Glenn Bahr became the perfect target, but not without the financial and moral support of the EPS.

Before the website or the group had gotten off the ground the EPS had provided an undercover officer, "Matt" or "ESTATE" the pseudonym he used to willfully promote hate on the internet, to help get the "hate" group going. His real name was Officer Mathew Williamson. He attended all our meetings, protests and shared ideas about the website and organization, he was even kind enough to give me financial support to help pay for the website. More insight can be gathered by looking at "Estates" posts he made on www.stormfront.org and www.westerncanadaforus.com. We know that Stephen Camp took over the username "ESTATE" and continued posting as "Matt" after Mathew Williamson was taken off the case. These posts are still available at www.stormfront.org In order to view them search by username, "ESTATE" and all 44 posts will appear. I have sent a list of all the posts included with this letter.

ESTATE is replying to a thread titled "A Super idea"?

02-12-2004, 8:44PM

If and when u get that up and running, and u need help with accurate research. Let me know. I will help.

I can forward anything relevant.

By the way, …what's the site gonna be called.

Any suggestions?

Stephen Camp, (ESTATE) is starting a thread called "Bad Week". In this thread he is referring to the raid he did on my residence. He likes to rally the troops against the police.

06-17-2004, 8:33PM

I think I need a vacation from Edmonton. First, our outlet for free speech goes down the tubes with the hate pigs illegally bustin up his house. Now this week in Edmonton, there is Gay Pride Week.

I gotta get outta here!

In this thread "Estate" is replying to a thread I started about holding a Zundel protest in Vancouver. SS-88 was my username on the site www.stormfront.org before it was hacked. It's interesting because this is after I left Alberta under Camp's direction and was living in Langley B.C. Camp, under the name "ESTATE" is still trying to support me to be active, probably so he can gather more evidence against me. His friend Sean McGowan of the BC Hate Crime Unit paid me a visit after this post and told me I may be arrested if I held a Zundel protest. More police intimidation.

08-06-2004, 2:42PM

Hey ss-88. Its too bad u weren't still here in Alberta. You would have a strong turnout. Hope plans in BC go well.

Camp is replying to a thread about a newspaper article titled, "Mayoral hopeful Stephen Mandel wants more immigrants to come to Edmonton.

09-30-2004, 5:56PM

Bill Smith is the only real white out of the 3 of them. I think noce is Italian/Jew, and Mandel is Jew as well. I'm voting for Smith.

This outlines the depth of the involvement and participation of the EPS in Western Canada For Us now I will remind you of Camp's actions during the raid on May 7 2004 at my residence. Camp threatened my roommate and I that he would have her daughter taken away if I did not remove the website and leave Alberta at once. Camp proceeded to call Child Protective Services. He used the child as a pawn to force us to write written statements, have me leave the city of Edmonton and leave the province of Alberta. There were know drugs, weapons or abuse taking place and the child was well taken care of. The fact that this officer did not like my beliefs caused him to take these bullying actions. It was personal for him. I was not even charged or under arrest. I followed all of his orders in order to protect the child.

I believe Camp wasn't content on having me charged just once so he worked with Ontario Lawyer Richard Warman who filed two complaints against me and I was eventually found guilty before a Kangaroo court called the Canadian Human Rights Tribunal. Camp was a witness for Richard Warman and Richard Warman appeared to act as a witness during the preliminary hearings of my criminal trial. They exchanged evidence and intelligence on me. The Edmonton Hate Crime Unit even acted as security for Warman when he spoke about me and Western Canada For Us at the University of Alberta. The article titled, "Anti-hate lawyer to speak on campus" can be viewed here: http://www.expressnews.ualberta.ca/article.cfm?id=6716

I have been advised and verily believe that Mr. Christie informed the Crown Prosecutor in the case, Tania Sarkar, that "the fact that he has been fined by the Human Rights Tribunal already for the same circumstances, a fact of which your investigators were well aware, indicates to me that this case should never have proceeded as far as it has. It is estopped by res judicata." Mr. Christie relied on the case of R. v. Wigglesworth [1987] 2 S.C.R. 541. The charges against me have been stayed.

This process has cost me both time and money and I am hoping Stephen Camp will be held accountable for his actions. This type of police action should never have happened and I hope that other victims never have to be treated so unjustly and unfairly.

Sincerely,

Glenn Bahr
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Postby fourhorses » 06/ 13/ 08 6:33 pm

Before the website or the group had gotten off the ground the EPS had provided an undercover officer, "Matt" or "ESTATE" the pseudonym he used to willfully promote hate on the internet, to help get the "hate" group going.


His real name was Officer Mathew Williamson. He attended all our meetings, protests and shared ideas about the website and organization, he was even kind enough to give me financial support to help pay for the website. More insight can be gathered by looking at "Estates" posts he made on www.stormfront.org and www.westerncanadaforus.com.


We know that Stephen Camp took over the username "ESTATE" and continued posting as "Matt" after Mathew Williamson was taken off the case. These posts are still available at www.stormfront.org In order to view them search by username, "ESTATE" and all 44 posts will appear. I have sent a list of all the posts included with this letter.




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Postby Edward Kennedy » 06/ 13/ 08 6:49 pm

As I said before, my late uncle was an OPP detachment commander and he always told me "an asshole is still an asshole, even in uniform".

He was probably referring to the stephen camp types.

One wonders why the idiot is not ount chasing pimps, muggers, murderers, etc instead of harassing innocent people expressing their opinions. Maybe cowardice has something to do with it.

Would love to meet that ahole out of uniform.
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Postby fourhorses » 06/ 13/ 08 6:51 pm

Sgt Stephen Camp

"That inferior group is not wanted, that they're ah should be despised and scorned. Umm that they are umm ah… They should be oppressed and removed or removed from society."

– Stephen Camp on CBC The National.




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