CHRC's Newest Victim - Free North America / Bill Whatcott

[Connie Fournier]

Several weeks ago, with Bill Whatcott's permission, I sent an Access to Information request to the CHRC for all of the information they have on Bill Whatcott.

I received the package last night and I have made it into a pdf document which is available <a href=http://www.freedominion.com.pa/images/whatcott.pdf>here</a>.

The first thing I noticed is that the pages are so heavily redacted they are nearly useless.

The first two documents they provide show that they were interested in the flyer campaign that Bill did on the subject of Islam. We knew that, because a complaint was later lodged against us for it. One weird thing is that the documents say there was a website listed on the flyer, but we don't see evidence of that on the flyer that Bill linked to. Free North America didn't exist at the time, so I don't know what site they are referring to.

There are two letters included from that time period in late March of 2006.

There is another flurry of activity almost exactly one year later over the same issue, but it seems to have been dropped again for some reason. I really don't think we are in possession of all of the documents related to this case (surprise!). In any case, I am not sure why this particular flyer came to their attention again in early April of 2007, but there were several emails exchanged amongst the CHRC staff.

Finally, on January 14, 2008, the CHRC decided to make Bill Whatcott an official respondant, and a complaint was filed the same day.

Almost all of the information in the complaint is redacted (which is stupid because Bill should be entitled to this information and a letter from him was included with this request).

But, we know that Bill Whatcott and the Free North America site are now officially being attacked by the CHRC over the exact same flyer they attacked us over in the summer of 2007.

Questions:

Why did they wait this long to file a complaint against Bill?

Why did they suddenly decide to do it on January 14, 2008?

When are they planning on giving Bill the information in this complaint so he can plan his defence?

Why did they think they were entitled to keep information about the complainant and the contents of the complaint secret from Bill when he clearly wanted the information?

Who is the complainant? Is it Gentes again, or did they dig up someone else to file this one? Is it Warman, or his western counterpart Rob Wells?

There are so many questions, but we will never get the answers if the unaccountable and corrupt CHRC has their way!

Where is Rob Nicholson??

[J.B. Stone]

Questions:

Why did they wait this long to file a complaint against Bill?

Why did they suddenly decide to do it on January 14, 2008?

When are they planning on giving Bill the information in this complaint so he can plan his defence?

Why did they think they were entitled to keep information about the complainant and the contents of the complaint secret from Bill when he clearly wanted the information?

Who is the complainant? Is it Gentes again, or did they dig up someone else to file this one? Is it Warman, or his western counterpart Rob Wells?

There are so many questions, but we will never get the answers if the unaccountable and corrupt CHRC has their way!

Why did they wait this long to file a complaint against Bill?


....uh, because they are inept and work mostly on emotions, not logic...???

Why did they suddenly decide to do it on January 14, 2008?

I believe you'll find the answer by discovering what actions they dropped/lost/were embarassed out of on January 13th or thereabouts....

When are they planning on giving Bill the information in this complaint so he can plan his defence?






Why did they think they were entitled to keep information about the complainant and the contents of the complaint secret from Bill when he clearly wanted the information?

They are clearly ABOVE the law...."fairness" is NOT a doctrine they espouse.

[Connie Fournier]

Interestingly, the complaint was filed against Bill the day before the Lemire Federal Court hearing where the CHRC had to admit that Dean Steacy was Jadewarr. Something smells.

[J.B. Stone]

I think, just for clarity's sake, that Bill should file an identical request and see if they give HIM the same package......could be differences in redaction or even actual content.

[Heartofsong83]

Where is Rob Nicholson??

Muzzled by Stephen Harper.

[TomFoolery]

The storyline is pretty empty...given the natural of the developments.

I suspect that as long as the flyers were being distributed by hand, the CHRC never had jurisdiction, but as soon as Bill posted them on his website, they became CHRC jurisdiction.

This file was a lot more active than they are letting on. My guess is that they have an outside lawyer acting as an investigator in order to argue client-solicitor priviledge.

[TomFoolery]

One can now better understand the legal loopholes of a government body that can simultaneously being an investigator, complainant and judge. They borrow the common law that is convenient to their agenda, and just as convenientyly disregard principles of justice.

[chlorine]

Sounds an awful lot like the movie Judge Dredd.

[Red]

The arrogance of the CHR astounds me, they hide behind so called client priviledge so when did the complainant become their client? Why don't they just persecute people in abstentia, no one believes they operate by treating all parties as equals. Because the public is outraged by their immoral and unethical behavior I suspect they'll pass new rules where everything but the verdict is secret. The defendant/respondant won't even be allowed to know the identity of the complainant, like this complaint, they'll find you guilty on evidence they mostly likely planted and they'll financially destroy you in the name of "Tolerance and Diversity".

Can we trust any evidence that passes through their slimy little hands? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Fire them all.

[Fabulous Fred]

Had enough? It appears that history is getting ready to repeat itself:

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[BlawBlaw]

One can now better understand the legal loopholes of a government body that can simultaneously being an investigator, complainant and judge. They borrow the common law that is convenient to their agenda, and just as convenientyly disregard principles of justice.

The commission investigates and acts as a party, much the same as the cops investigating crimes and the crown attornies prosecuting crimes. As far as I know, human rights tribunals are the only administrative body that works this way. Other bodies such as employment standards and rental housing will undertake investigations and issue penalties for noncompliance with the applicable statute, but none of them will actually go to bat for a private party.

The tribunal that actually hears the case is separate from the commission, although I am sure that tribunal members tend to be drawn from the same circles that the commission employees come from. The tribunal members don't have to be lawyers but I believe that most are.

Administrative tribunals traditionally do not follow all of the common law principles nor are their rules of procedure as detailed as a court of law. However, they have to follow what is referred to as "natural justice" in terms of their conduct.

A good summary of the principles of natural justice can be found here:

http://www.adm.uwaterloo.ca/infoprov/Ha ... stice.html

[Red]

I just saw the flyer at Socon's blog, LOL there is absolutely nothing on that flyer that isn't the truth. In fact if it were me I'd make the tribunal head sit through a hundred hours of youtube videos where so called Moderate Muslims call us infidels and the Jews pigs and dogs in MOSQUES no less. If they want to defend Political/Radical Islamists at the CHRC then let them see the blood of innocents flow off the hands of the Islamists as they stand there Allah Akbaring while holding a human head. The battle against the Political Islamists began with Ezra continues with Steyn and will end with us crushing the HRCs. A Progressive Canadian Muslim would be as offended as I am at the actions of the Political and Radical Islamists not filing snot and bawling complaints that we have a psycological condition coined by their "ILK" the Jihadist Islamists.

I'm so disgusted I'm almost mute.

[TomFoolery]

BlawBlaw - Thanks. By my observation - the very act of being both the official investigator and prosecutor party to the action - they violate natural justice.

When you suggest they are bound to follow natural justice - is this stipulated by law, or is it an informal understanding of "English Gentlemen " ?

[Edward Kennedy]

chrc cowards, bullies, tyrants and bigots function in a manner that gives anyone who appears before them just cause to ridicule, criticize, and verbally abuse them. They set the rules, it is time those they persecuted played by the same set.