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PostPosted: 05/ 15/ 08 1:04 pm    Post subject: CHRC Seeking Hate Tip Line Reply with quote



You can read the whole letter here.

This tip line will foster an informal secret police in Canada made up of minority groups and leftist thugs.

My father told me about how the people feared the Secred Police in da’ old country.

Who’d ever thought that Canada would become like the countries where people are fleeing from?

http://www.socon.ca/or_bust/?p=950
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PostPosted: 05/ 15/ 08 1:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is reminiscent of the Stasi.
Reminds me of a recent commercial put out in Britian by BBC

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yy4sWMIPeQc
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PostPosted: 05/ 15/ 08 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tell me if you see a pattern forming.....

http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/cold.war/experience/spies/spy.files/intelligence/stasi.html
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PostPosted: 05/ 15/ 08 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What an utter and complete waste of resources.

Isn't it about time to start organizing against this sort of government? I'm probably getting flagged for even mentioning this here.
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PostPosted: 05/ 15/ 08 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CHRC Memo

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From: Helene Goulet
To: David Langtry

January 24, 2007



We have been in contact with Justice Canada with regard to the tip line. No action has yet been taken to implement the proposal, but a feasibility study is underway.





So Justice is running a feasibility study to block websites. The system will be automated.

Justice has moved into the business of pre-crimes.


It appears from this CHRC memo and the letter from Farber at CJC, that Justice Department is in cahoots with the CJC.






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PostPosted: 05/ 15/ 08 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The Commission has the expertise to analyse foreign websites.



Goldberg Transcripts


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MR. CHRISTIE: Do you have the authority under the Act to interpret what is an unlawful message?

MR. GOLDBERG: No, we do not.

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PostPosted: 05/ 15/ 08 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Goldberg Transcripts

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MR. GOLDBERG: In my understanding of the law and the jurisprudence, truth is near an irrelevant factor.

MR. CHRISTIE: Would you agree that in being guided by the jurisprudence you were quite correct to say that so far the jurisprudence has indicated that truth is irrelevant to the consideration of Section 13(1).

MR. GOLDBERG: Yes.





MR. GOLDBERG: In my understanding of the law and the jurisprudence, truth is near an irrelevant factor.
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PostPosted: 05/ 15/ 08 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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From: [Redacted]
To: [Redacted]
Date: 17/01/2006 4:17 PM

Hello:

As you are both aware, the Commission has signed a MOU with the RCMP. We are currently finalizing the terms of the action plan, and based upon previous conversations with [Redacted] I put forward an idea of a working group on hate crimes for the RCMP to consider, which they thought was interesting. In order to pursue it further, I'd like to get more information the tools you would be interested in having access to, as well your input on potential objectives for such a working group. Would you be available to meet tomorrow.
(Jan. 18th), from 2 to 3 o'clock?

Thanks !

[Redacted]

cc: [Redacted]






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From: [Redacted]
To: HARVEY GOLDBERG
Date: Wed, Jan 18,200612:07 pm
Subject: Re: Working Group on Hate Crimes - RCMP MOU

Great! I've just sent all of you a new invitation, we will now be meeting iN [Redacted See you this afternoon.

[Redacted]


»> HARVEY GOLDBERG 18/01/2006 11 :48 am >>>

I have a meeting from 1:30 to 2:30 wit~but could you join you after that if the meeting is being held
here.
Harvey Goldberg
Team Leader, Proactive Initiatives
Canadian Human Rights Commission
344 Slater Street
Ottawa, Ontario
K1A 1E1

[Redacted]
[Redacted]
[Redacted]

Toll free; 1 888214 1090

[Redacted]

www.chrc-ccdo.ca




>>>[Redacted] 18/01/2006 11:05:45 AM >>>

Hi [Redacted]

The main focus of this first meeting was to get a better idea of the tools you wanted to have access to in order to better conduct investigations in hate cases. I was unsure whether we needed to involve Harvey for this particular aspect, but by all means Harvey, I would be happy to have you join us this afternoon, if you are available. Additional invitations to following meetings are meant to be extended to other members of CHRC staff as well, as we want their input on the potential objectives of a working group on hate crimes ...

Harvey, may I ask you to confirm whether you wish to join us?

Thank you,
[Redacted]



>>> [Redacted] 18/01/200610:44 am >>>

Are you referring to Hate on the Net. Before we discuss any working group, I would want to involve Harvey as he is responsible for coordinating the Commission's overall stategy on Internet hate


[Redacted]
manager Investigations
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PostPosted: 05/ 15/ 08 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Goldberg's e-mail


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From: [Redacted]
To: [Redacted] HARVEY GOLDBERG [Redacted]
Date: Tue. Apr 18, 200611:19 am
Subject: Feedback Request - Working Group on Hate Messages Email


Hello:

Please find enclosed the emaill am planning to send the RCMP to formally request the creation of a working group on hate messages. Let me know jf there is anything else you would like to see added before it is sent on through the appropriate channels.

[Redacted]



Hello: [Redacted]

As you are aware. an Action Plan has been negotiated by the CHRC's Prevention Initiatives & Liaison Branch and the RCMP's Labour Relations & Human Rights Branch to support the Memorandum of Understanding signed by our respective organizations. As part of this plan. we have expressed interest during working meetings in the possibility of creating a working group on hate messages. Such a group would focus on finding ways to improve the level of efficiency and collaboration between CHRC and
ReMP officers in the processing of hate-related cases.

CHRC officers in charge of investigating hate messages complaints have outlined a few issues that might be the SUbject of potential working group's activities and/or discussions:

- Establishing direct contacts between CHRC and RCMP officers
- Improving the sharing of information between CHRC and RCMP officers
- Improving access to the provincial- and municipal-level information
- Obtaining a more direct access to CPIC anellor improving efficiency and speed in sharing information
- Improving coordination of human rights-related cases processing with police efforts
- Obtaining access to specialized training on investigating hate-related cases (Canadian Police College)

We are very interested in getting an opportunity to further discuss the creation of a working group with CCAPs, who you will be contacting on our behalf. Please let me know how they wish to proceed, and I will be happy to schedule a meeting or a conversation with them.

cc: [Redacted]


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PostPosted: 05/ 15/ 08 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Goldberg Transcript


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MR. CHRISTIE: Do you consider the policy of the Canadian Human Rights Commission to be consistent with exchanging private information about individuals with police forces?

MR. GOLDBERG: I don't know what policy you are referring to.

MR. CHRISTIE: I say the policy of the Canadian Human Rights Commission. Is that sufficiently clear?

MR. GOLDBERG: Are you speaking about a document or the Commission's general approach to things?

MR. CHRISTIE: Well, actually, sir, it could be a document. It could be its general approach to things. Who but you would know better the policy of the Canadian Human Rights Commission? Can you answer that question?

MR. GOLDBERG: No, I can't.


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MR. CHRISTIE: Have you advised as a matter of policy that the special mandate of the Canadian Human Rights Commission could be interpreted as assisting police in prosecutions under the Criminal Code?

MR. GOLDBERG: No, I have not.

MR. CHRISTIE: Have you ever participated in any such cooperation?

MR. GOLDBERG: No, I have not.

MR. CHRISTIE: Are you aware of other Commission staff participating in such cooperation?

MR. GOLDBERG: No, I'm not.






Goldberg Transcripts June 25, 2007
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As you are aware. an Action Plan has been negotiated by the CHRC's Prevention Initiatives & Liaison Branch and the RCMP's Labour Relations & Human Rights Branch to support the Memorandum of Understanding signed by our respective organizations.

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PostPosted: 05/ 15/ 08 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

With a tip line, you wouldn't need a complaint, just a tip. And you wouldn't need need a complainant.

I think a tip line is a good idea with respect to things like employment or housing. Despite the fact that retaliation against a complainant is illegal, a lot of people won't come forward because they worry about their job or their apartment.

However, it would be just one more recipe for disaster when applied in the context of so-called "hate speech". Just post something on a website that you don't like and then tip off the HRC who then does the dirty work of shutting them down.
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PostPosted: 05/ 15/ 08 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BlawBlaw wrote:
With a tip line, you wouldn't need a complaint, just a tip. And you wouldn't need need a complainant.


You wouldn't need a complainant either. They can be fabricated as needed.

Isn't is curious that the CJC and B'nai Brith are introducing and cheer leading and old concept! Perhaps this isn't such a bad idea to them as long as the victims are NOT from the members of a very select group.


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PostPosted: 05/ 15/ 08 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mounting evidence repeatedly reinforces that, individually and collectively, Bernie Farber and the CJC have conspired to manipulate Canadian government institutions, including but not limited to the CHRC, the RCMP, and the Justice Ministry - and that a reasonable person would conclude that through private meetings and communiques, considered in their historical and social context, the outcome of such an agenda is likely to make it more acceptable for others to manifest hatred or contempt against HRC/T 'Hate speech' Respondents.

When HRC/T 'Hate Speech' Respondents are Jewish individuals, care must be exercised to ensure that any hatred and contempt ensuing from the HRC/T complaint, investigation and conviction process does not in turn trigger hatred and contempt against Jews.

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