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Hartung wrote back on March 7, 2008:

Lemire's March 25th Hearing to be a Secret Star Chamber!

As many of you know, Marc Lemire's Canadian Human Rights Tribunal hearing is scheduled to resume on March 25, 2008.

The defence team is planning to question Dean Steacy, a Human Rights Commission investigator, about why he registered on Free Dominion when we were not under investigation (something he claimed never to have done), and to ask about the CHRC complaint that was lodged against us over a post that was made just days after Steacy registered here.

I sent the following email to Carol Ann Hartung on March 6th:

Posted: 03/ 08/ 08 1:30 pm Post subject:

Well we do get to pay for it:)
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Posted: 03/ 08/ 08 2:31 pm Post subject:

We need to make a stink about this.
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Posted: 03/ 08/ 08 2:33 pm Post subject:

All Standard operating policy for a soviet-styled star chamber.
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Posted: 03/ 08/ 08 2:34 pm Post subject:

Posted: 03/ 08/ 08 2:41 pm Post subject:

The transcripts will be public, but who knows how long it will take for the CHRT to release them.

If anyone thinks of any good questions, send me a PM (I'm sure they read here).
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"...single men must have access to donor eggs and “gestational carriers.” - David Johnston, Governor General Appointee
(The man Stephen Harper calls "the best of Canada")

Posted: 03/ 08/ 08 2:46 pm Post subject:

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Posted: 03/ 08/ 08 3:29 pm Post subject:

The ruling regarding who was entitled to attend the CHRC members' testimony is here.

From what I understand, the CHRC originally wanted to keep Lemire outside the hearing room when the CHRC witnesses were testifying. The CHRT rightly denied that request - imagine being a defendant in a criminal case and not being entitled to participate in your own defense. That's what the CHRC tried to do here in a quasi-criminal case.

I'm not 100% sure that an order to hold the CHRC witnesses' testimony in camera was entered as part of that written decision, though - just an order that no one brings a camera into the hearing room.

Posted: 03/ 08/ 08 3:54 pm Post subject:

So far there have been ten hearing dates / decisions recorded in over a two year period the Warman vs Lemire case before the CHRT:

1 - 22/02/2006 - 2006 CHRT 7 - PDF
2 - 23/02/2006 - 2006 CHRT 8 - PDF
3 - 14/03/2006 - 2006 CHRT 13 - PDF
4 - 16/08/2006 - 2006 CHRT 32 - PDF
5 - 26/10/2006 - 2006 CHRT 48 - PDF
6 - 29/11/2006 - 2006 CHRT 53 - PDF
7 - 06/12/2006 - 2006 CHRT 58 - PDF
8 - 07/05/2007 - 2007 CHRT 16 - PDF
9 - 17/05/2007 - 2007 CHRT 21 - PDF
10 - 17/08/2007 - 2007 CHRT 37 - PDF

The links above will take you to a PDF document outlining the CHRT decision in each case.
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Posted: 03/ 08/ 08 3:55 pm Post subject:

Posted: 03/ 08/ 08 3:59 pm Post subject:

I snuck this picture out of the last hearing.

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Posted: 03/ 08/ 08 6:41 pm Post subject:

Posted: 03/ 08/ 08 8:05 pm Post subject:

CBC needs to broadcast this in real time. The
mandate of the CBC has always been to draw us
together. Broadcasting this hearing would bring
us all together in appreciation of the good work
our tax dollars do for us.

If safety is a concern those in charge could follow
procedures used in trials of biker gangs.

Connie Fournier doesn't look scary to me, but I
come from the west.

Posted: 03/ 08/ 08 10:27 pm Post subject:

The CHRT's in camera ruling was made before any CHRC witnesses were heard on May 9. It appears that the Tribunal was worried about pictures of the CHRC investigators being posted on the Internet. Paul Fromm raised objections to the motion, but was overruled.

I suppose a media organization or bloggers could file some sort of motion to open the proceedings to the public. Given the CHRT's ruling and concerns about keeping investigators' physical attributes secret, allegedly for their safety, it might make more sense to request the ability to listen to oral testimony in some sort of overflow room.

By the way, according to the CHRT's website, the Tribunal is no longer making written transcripts available in the normal course. Instead, a CD-Rom of audio testimony will be provided to the parties upon request.

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