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PostPosted: 02/ 02/ 08 1:38 pm    Post subject: Contrary to MSM, Keith Martin (M-446) widely supported Reply with quote

Since it seems that Warman Kinsella is incapable of clicking past his Stormfront bookmark, I thought it would be beneficial to list some of the other sites that are expressing support for Keith Martin and M-446.

Perhaps, rather than relying completely on Kinsella, the google-challenged MSM could throw Lucy Warman a few bucks to do their research for them. His CHRC "Make Money from Home" business is about to hit the skids, and I'm sure there isn't another individual in the country who is more adept at googling "CHRC", "Section 13" and, especially, "Richard Warman". But, I digress.

Below is a non-exhaustive list of links to non-'Nazis' who support M-446:

Mark Steyn
Ezra Levant
Mike Brock
Jay Currie
Blazing Cat Fur
Small Dead Animals
The Canadian Sentinel
Joanne's Journey
Ubi re vera
Socon or Bust
Big Blue Wave
Atlas Shrugs
Just Right
Covenant Zone
Time Immortal
Five Feet of Fury
Dr. Roy's Thoughts
Dispatches from the Socialist Gulag
The Canadian Republic
1389 Blog
Magic Statistics
Project Alberta
Aloud in the Street
Free Mark Steyn
The Shotgun
Flander's Fields
Pundita
Seraphic Singles
Newsbeat 1
The Daily Bayonet
Jack's Newswatch
Vanpopta.ca
Stand Your Ground
Miss Political
Bear Diaries
Le ciel est bleu
Saskatchewan Liberty Train
Kerplonka
No Apologies
A Dog Named Kyoto
The National Review (Steyn)
Ghost of a flea
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Feel free to add links to this thread as you find them.

Meanwhile, we need to call our opponents on their dishonesty and let them know in no uncertain terms that the muck they are trying to hurl at us will not stick.

When they are resorting to painting Ezra as a Nazi and Keith Martin (the self-described 'brown guy') as a white supremacist, you know they are reaching the point of desperation.

Keep up the pressure!
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PostPosted: 02/ 02/ 08 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As is common with the left, they change the definitions of words to manage the political waters. Unfortunately for them - they can't change the REALITY that the original words represent. They can only spin words to confuse thier ignorant pawns - but only for a time: Reality eventually reaches through. The collateral damage to a nation only takes a few generations to repair.

The fundamental characteristic of Totalitarian States, whether of the Communist or Nazi/Fascist variety, rely on a few common precepts:

a) They must wield the Powers of the State.

b) They lack independence between legislative, investigative (eg. police), and judicial functions of the State;

c) They employ arbitrary and subjective laws and processes;

d) Governance is through a network of 'elite' groups who give power to the Structure, and in reciprosity - receive power from the Structure;

e) They often hold a mandate of (top-down) moral education of the public, and the power to quash dissent from the State-mandated Ideology


So, while self-proclaimed "neo-nazi" groups have a patently false view of themselves - they can only reasonbly be considered "wannabee Nazi's" who's aim is to replace the existing regime. In fact, they hold no part of the Power of the State that could rationally be considered dangerous. All they control is the air spewing forth from their mouths.

The death of millions upon millions of people, whether Jews, Bourgeous, or any other individuals or groups was the CONSEQUENCE of Totalitarianism. Whether such power is named Fascism, Nazi-ism, or Communism - totalitarianism is foremostly defined by the Structure and exercise of State Power.

And today, in Canada, the Structures of Totallitarianism look an awful lot like Human Rights Commissions.

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PostPosted: 02/ 02/ 08 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Martin Rayner, Aka Red Tory guestblogging at Scott's Diatribes:

http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2008/02/02/ending-%e2%80%9chate-speech%e2%80%9d/
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PostPosted: 02/ 02/ 08 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who knew there were this many 'Nazi supporters' in the Canadian blogosphere? Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 02/ 02/ 08 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some have more confidence in the light outside of government to see that phenomena that marginalize themselves, said phenomena deserves to be on the sidelines.

The last thing I would expect to be marginalized is calling a spade a spade, which is the goal of Kinsella and the rest of his fellow thought police.
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PostPosted: 02/ 02/ 08 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Saturday CBC radio news reports that "white supremacist" groups are supporting Keith Martins motion (M-446?) to pull Section 13 of the Canadian Human rights Act. Now there is a fine bit of in-depth reporting.
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PostPosted: 02/ 02/ 08 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The Saturday CBC radio news reports that "white supremacist" groups are supporting Keith Martins motion (M-446?) to pull Section 13 of the Canadian Human rights Act. Now there is a fine bit of in-depth reporting.


The story on the CTV website had a headline saying Stormfront ("Supremacist group") praises Martin's proposal. I realize that these people in the MSM are all liberals and therefore assholes but you'd think they would understand that free speech protects them too. If Islamic extremists can go after Macleans they can go after CTV and the CBC too. CBC is beyond resuscitating but CTV is owned by Bell. Cheez!

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PostPosted: 02/ 02/ 08 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fourhorses wrote:
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I was just about to add my blog, Climbingoutofthedark, when I saw fourhorses had already added it to the list. Thanks fourhorses!

Question is, how many of those blogs are Conservative, how many Liberal and how many NDP? That would tell us the real story! Seems like Conservative blogs are in full support, the others? Not so much. Clueless
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PostPosted: 02/ 02/ 08 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find it hilarious that some on the left call those opposed to section 13 Nazis, because the entire section 13 is a piece of legislation that only a Nazi would enact and enforce whilst going after so called Nazis.

So who is the Nazi, a man who wants to suppress freedom of expression or those that want to fight those that want to suppress our Chartered Rights. Only a farking leftard would get confused and think that presecuting stupid white men under section 13 is a moral and just whilst persecuting Christians and demanding they cease quoting the bible as justice.

Jebus what a dick head.
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PostPosted: 02/ 03/ 08 5:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JeremyMaddock.com - Section 13 of the Canadian Human Rights Act - Dying at Last???
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PostPosted: 02/ 03/ 08 5:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, the MSM jumped all over the Kinsella-ish smear campaign.

In any event, the battle lines are becoming very clear.


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PostPosted: 02/ 03/ 08 5:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

leewgrant wrote:
Thomas wrote:
The Saturday CBC radio news reports that "white supremacist" groups are supporting Keith Martins motion (M-446?) to pull Section 13 of the Canadian Human rights Act. Now there is a fine bit of in-depth reporting.


The story on the CTV website had a headline saying Stormfront ("Supremacist group") praises Martin's proposal. I realize that these people in the MSM are all liberals and therefore assholes but you'd think they would understand that free speech protects them too.
If Islamic extremists can go after Macleans they can go after CTV and the CBC too. CBC is beyond resuscitating but CTV is owned by Bell. Cheez!

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A few ( precious few ) seem to have their brains engaged:



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Eye Weekly, Toronto's left-wing freebie magazine, gets it. They disagree with me and the late, great Western Standard on just about everything. But they know that if a conservative publisher can be hauled before the government today, it will be a leftist publisher tomorrow. Here's an excerpt from their latest editorial:

"...there are things on which civilized people from across the political spectrum agree, basic assumptions that are necessary prerequisites to the functioning of a democracy: that only open debate and the airing of conflicting opinions produces progress, and that everyone is entitled to due process before the court system. The things that keep us safe from totalitarianism are free speech and due process. That the human rights commissions of BC, Alberta and the federal government are even hearing these complaints endangers both.

...Human Rights Commissions, who may still serve some purpose as an informal way for victims of employment and housing discrimination to find redress, need to be reined in. They should have no jurisdiction to restrict or stand in judgment of freedom of speech and of the press."

Eye Weekly knows this isn't a battle between the left and the right on the spectrum of ideas. It's a battle between everyone inthe spectrum of ideas, against those who would attack the very notion of a spectrum of ideas.

If a conservative, Calgary publisher and a leftist, Toronto arts magazine can agree that it's high time to amend the human rights acts to protect freedom of speech and the press, surely it's safe for legislators to attempt at least that minimal correction.



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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1929538/posts?page=275#275
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PostPosted: 02/ 03/ 08 5:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did it ever occur to the MSM and the rest of the Kinsella progeny that there was a time when we never had Human Rights Commissions to regulate our every social and commercial interaction, every word we spoke or wrote and our thoughts underlying the activities required for the quest for Truth ?

Prior to Human Rights Commissions, Free Canadians kicked Nazi-ass.

Through the typical methods of propaganda, Canadians have been neutered from any rational understanding of what fascism really is. It is simplistically equated with the Holocaust. Out of the tens of millions that have died at the hands of a corrupted State - its foolish to take such a one-dimensional view of the issue.

Fascism, communism, and all variants of Totalitarians - is equated with government control of Culture through the aggregation of power of an elite within the power structures of the state. When this aggregated power hits a critical mass, it is unleashed and focussed against those groups who have made themselves unpopular by criticizing the entrenchment of power in the State.

Having won the battle against Fascism abroad, it is becoming clear that we never won the battle here at home.
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PostPosted: 02/ 03/ 08 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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...Human Rights Commissions, who may still serve some purpose as an informal way for victims of employment and housing discrimination to find redress, need to be reined in. They should have no jurisdiction to restrict or stand in judgment of freedom of speech and of the press."


That's it in a nutshell. The original 1979 legislation has been totally bastardized by the thought control leftoids. Rescinding Section 13(1) would help to send the CHRA back to what it is supposed to do - deal with employment, accommodation and provision of goods and services.
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