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PostPosted: 07/ 20/ 07 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Quebec. What a surprise.


I am shocked RedDog Shocked Wink
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PostPosted: 07/ 20/ 07 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some of the lawyers looking into this are at the moment deciding how much I should publish here. I really want to put up the whole text of her absurd complaint but for the time being I will generalize.

The most ridiculous part of all is her claim that she, herself, was discriminated against. She opens with that and afterwards does nothing but cite how mean Bill Whatcott is to Muslims. She actually states that she isn't a Muslim, and never explains how it is that she was discriminated against.
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PostPosted: 07/ 20/ 07 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I googled the woman's name-- got a lot of references to scientific journals-- not much that's of interest to me, anyway.
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PostPosted: 07/ 20/ 07 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This Marie-Line Gentes, the complainer, is quite the flake. I almost feel sorry for the Canadian Human Rights Commission, but I suppose they can't be choosy about who they represent considering the quality of people who would come to them to pull a stunt like this.

Marie-Line Gentes a wildlife biologist who studied at the University of Saskatchewan and now teaches at Vanier College in Quebec. She obviously has a serious hate on for Bill Whatcott and Free Dominion is caught in the crossfire.

The odd thing is she isn't whining about what everyone would expect, she is whining on behalf of her poor Muslim brothers and sisters. I guess she figures they are too stupid to act on their own behalf so she will condescend to do it for them.

Do you know exactly which post it is? I don't follow Bill's posting very carefully, but I thought he was more "into" homosexuality than radical Islamicism.
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PostPosted: 07/ 20/ 07 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont look at many of Whatcott's posts but hell I havent been that Muslim friendly either. Why didnt she hit me?
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PostPosted: 07/ 20/ 07 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has this moonbat also filed complaints about beheadings taking place at the hands of the death cult?
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PostPosted: 07/ 20/ 07 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Some of the lawyers looking into this are at the moment deciding how much I should publish here. I really want to put up the whole text of her absurd complaint but for the time being I will generalize.

The most ridiculous part of all is her claim that she, herself, was discriminated against. She opens with that and afterwards does nothing but cite how mean Bill Whatcott is to Muslims. She actually states that she isn't a Muslim, and never explains how it is that she was discriminated against.


I'm trying to remember the last time Bill made a comment on Muslims.

The complainant seems like a real wierdo. She's going to get a lot of publicity out of this - whether she wants it or not.
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PostPosted: 07/ 20/ 07 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Blowfly infestation of tree swallow nests on the Athabasca Oil Sands


"Blow" and "swallow" in the same sentence. Someone file a complaint at such vulgar pornographic references.
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PostPosted: 07/ 20/ 07 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

free_life2 wrote:
dholokov wrote:
Wlyonmackenzie wrote:
dholokov wrote:
Wlyonmackenzie wrote:







Everything in this post is incorrect.


Citation please or retraction. Shaking Finger



many HRC's have relaxed rules of evidence, as do many other tribunals such as labour boards. they aren't unconstitutional and can even help the respodent to the complaint, depending on the evidence. Nor do they operate outside the authority of the courts - the courts can review an incorrect determination regarding the way evidence was considered.

There's no criminal penalties under HRC statutes - you can't be sent to jail as a remedy for a Human rights breach. Nor are there generally reverse onuses. Some individual issues may have shifting burdens of proof, but there's no areas where a mere accusation leads to a requirement to disprove it.

Absentia findings of breach would be rare, especially where the other party actually wants to show up and defend. I suppose if one party continually ignored hearings and refused to show up, a judgment might issue without their input, but it would be odd to be denied the opportunity.

And ignoring an HRC complaint because you misunderstand the scope of their authority, as you suggest to do, is a very very BAD idea.

I suspect you've heard some things and just interpreted them incorrectly, or you've (mis)read Ted Morton on the subject. No biggie, just thought I should clear things up.


1 - They are regulating thoughts and speech as a crime

2- They you can go to prison for not adhering to their verdict.

Next?


This is not quite true. The HRC can't say you have violated the Act and as a result you must go to jail. Yes in theory you could go to jail after long periods of non-compliance with a human rights determination. But then it would be contempt of court. Heck, you could theoretically go to jail for not paying your credit card bill.

If your expansive definition were true, than every proceeding in existence would be a criminal matter, because the possibility would exist that an order would be issued that would not be adhered to, which could later result in a contempt finding.
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PostPosted: 07/ 20/ 07 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't publish anything that could hurt you E.S. The truth will come out.
She sounds simply fabulous. Probably looking for the golden handshake. Cool
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PostPosted: 07/ 20/ 07 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

She only includes a couple of urls in her complaint. One is to FD's front page, the other is a link to takebackcanada.com and the other is to a thread showing one of Bill Whatcott's fliers http://www.freedominion.ca/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=56494
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PostPosted: 07/ 20/ 07 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Blowfly infestation of tree swallow nests on the Athabasca Oil Sands


"Blow" and "swallow" in the same sentence. Someone file a complaint at such vulgar pornographic references.



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PostPosted: 07/ 20/ 07 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Entropy Squared wrote:
She only includes a couple of urls in her complaint. One is to FD's front page, the other is a link to takebackcanada.com and the other is to a thread showing one of Bill Whatcott's fliers http://www.freedominion.ca/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=56494


Face it, she's not really going after Bill here. She's after FD. period.
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PostPosted: 07/ 20/ 07 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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She only includes a couple of urls in her complaint. One is to FD's front page, the other is a link to takebackcanada.com and the other is to a thread showing one of Bill Whatcott's fliers http://www.freedominion.ca/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=56494

Yabbut----still not sure why you & Connie are dragged into it. Bill even takes full responsibility for his post, for at the bottom of it Bill writes:

Bill Whatcott wrote:
Questions, comments, hate mail, human rights investigators, hate crimes investigators, death threats, threats of decapitation can be referred to Bill Whatcott, Executive Director of the Social Reformation: bill_whatcott@yahoo.com


If that's not absolving youse guys from any responsibility I dunno what is!
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PostPosted: 07/ 20/ 07 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like she can't "tolerate" (sorry about using the leftist word without written permission from a card carrying leftie) the truth about islam!... geee, that's just too bad.
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