Nova Scotia Student Suspended For Jesus Shirt

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Re: Nova Scotia Student Suspended For Jesus Shirt

Postby dwday » 05/ 04/ 12 12:07 pm

Just curious about where the line should be drawn.

Here are some alternatives..

"Turn your back on Mohammed...
...and burn in hell"

"Worship Jesus...
...all the cool kids like zombies."

"Find some real friends to spend Sundays with...
...your invisible one doesn't exist"

Everybody OK with kids wearing those to school?
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Re: Nova Scotia Student Suspended For Jesus Shirt

Postby Edward Kennedy » 05/ 04/ 12 12:30 pm

smallLliberal wrote:
Charles J. White wrote:If he suspended again - this is the seventh time - he won't be able to finish his last year of high school. Swinimer, his father and the pastor at his church say the staff at the school are bullying the devout Christian teen for his religious beliefs

Read it on Global News: POLL: ' Jesus' T-shirt banned from N.S. school

http://www.globalmaritimes.com/poll+jes ... story.html


Don't break the rule of the school then.

This kid just wants to be a martyr at this point. So screw him, go to a different school if he refuses to follow the rules.



I always thought you were a pervert and this is proof...whenever you see a clean cut boy you always seem to come around to this voyeuristic bent...pervert. :-k
Please let me know if I said something that offended you. I may want to offend you again sometime.
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Re: Nova Scotia Student Suspended For Jesus Shirt

Postby Edward Kennedy » 05/ 04/ 12 12:35 pm

smallLliberal wrote:
Connie Fournier wrote:It is not meant to be offensive. But, even if it was, he should be allowed to express his opinion. I see stuff that offends me all the time. That's life.



It is offensive. He is telling everybody if you dont believe in his brand of christianity your life is wasted. That is offensive especially to others who are not even christian. What does that say to a jewish kid or a hindu kid.

Very interesting that you would judge for doing the same thing, that is, you are a judgmental and dogmatic puke in and of yourself who pronounces you and only you are right on any matter. :-k

They are very strict about clothing at my kids public school about clothing. My kid knows right away what is allowed and what is not allowed. This is nothing new.

Plus, I read this morning he spends half his day running around trying to convert kids to being born again.



Horrors, you mean he actually cares enough about people to tell them the truth of life after death and the eternal consequences of sin? Your mindset indicates to me that a man who dove into rapids to save a child would be subject to criticism and condemnation for committing a life saving deed.
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Re: Nova Scotia Student Suspended For Jesus Shirt

Postby Lee Enfield » 05/ 04/ 12 1:08 pm

smallLliberal wrote:
Connie Fournier wrote:It is not meant to be offensive. But, even if it was, he should be allowed to express his opinion. I see stuff that offends me all the time. That's life.



It is offensive. He is telling everybody if you dont believe in his brand of christianity your life is wasted. That is offensive especially to others who are not even christian. What does that say to a jewish kid or a hindu kid.

They are very strict about clothing at my kids public school about clothing. My kid knows right away what is allowed and what is not allowed. This is nothing new.

Plus, I read this morning he spends half his day running around trying to convert kids to being born again.


Canadians who found this offensive were told to go fly a kite.

Why is other's beliefs protected, but not those of a Christian?

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Re: Nova Scotia Student Suspended For Jesus Shirt

Postby mindyrbusiness » 05/ 04/ 12 1:09 pm

Wonder what would happen if someone dared to complain about someone wearing a t shirt to school with content found on these signs?
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Re: Nova Scotia Student Suspended For Jesus Shirt

Postby Connie Fournier » 05/ 04/ 12 1:44 pm

smallLliberal wrote:
Connie Fournier wrote:It is not meant to be offensive. But, even if it was, he should be allowed to express his opinion. I see stuff that offends me all the time. That's life.



It is offensive. He is telling everybody if you dont believe in his brand of christianity your life is wasted. That is offensive especially to others who are not even christian. What does that say to a jewish kid or a hindu kid.


If he didn't believe that a person's life is wasted without Jesus, he wouldn't be a Christian. Muslims believe that our lives are wasted if we don't follow the Koran. Jewish people feel just as strongly about their religion. There are LOTS of people in this world who believe I'm going to go to Hell (or whatever their equivalent is), and I'm 100% okay with that. If they didn't believe that strongly, it wouldn't be their RELIGION. And, if they want to tell me, that's okay, too. It's called TOLERANCE. You should try it sometime.
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Re: Nova Scotia Student Suspended For Jesus Shirt

Postby Connie Fournier » 05/ 04/ 12 1:49 pm

smallLliberal wrote:Plus, I read this morning he spends half his day running around trying to convert kids to being born again.


First of all, where is the link? Second of all, why is that any of your business? Do you think he shouldn't be allowed to talk about his religion, either?
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Re: Nova Scotia Student Suspended For Jesus Shirt

Postby Connie Fournier » 05/ 04/ 12 1:50 pm

dwday wrote:Just curious about where the line should be drawn.

Here are some alternatives..

"Turn your back on Mohammed...
...and burn in hell"

"Worship Jesus...
...all the cool kids like zombies."

"Find some real friends to spend Sundays with...
...your invisible one doesn't exist"

Everybody OK with kids wearing those to school?


When my kids were in high school, the librarian put up posters similar to the bottom three in the school library. She didn't get suspended or fired, and she was an employee, not a student.
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Re: Nova Scotia Student Suspended For Jesus Shirt

Postby Ben Kenobi » 05/ 04/ 12 1:53 pm

Things have unfortunately changed. I'm a teacher and this is why I teach in a private Catholic school. So I can display the same stuff, and horror of horrors, use the bible whenever possible! :D
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Re: Nova Scotia Student Suspended For Jesus Shirt

Postby RedDog » 05/ 04/ 12 1:54 pm

How about...?

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Re: Nova Scotia Student Suspended For Jesus Shirt

Postby dwday » 05/ 04/ 12 2:06 pm

Edward Kennedy wrote:
smallLliberal wrote:
Connie Fournier wrote:It is not meant to be offensive. But, even if it was, he should be allowed to express his opinion. I see stuff that offends me all the time. That's life.



It is offensive. He is telling everybody if you dont believe in his brand of christianity your life is wasted. That is offensive especially to others who are not even christian. What does that say to a jewish kid or a hindu kid.

Very interesting that you would judge for doing the same thing, that is, you are a judgmental and dogmatic puke in and of yourself who pronounces you and only you are right on any matter. :-k

They are very strict about clothing at my kids public school about clothing. My kid knows right away what is allowed and what is not allowed. This is nothing new.

Plus, I read this morning he spends half his day running around trying to convert kids to being born again.



Horrors, you mean he actually cares enough about people to tell them the truth of life after death and the eternal consequences of sin? Your mindset indicates to me that a man who dove into rapids to save a child would be subject to criticism and condemnation for committing a life saving deed.


Despite being an unbeliever myself, I agree with you on this point, Edward. What kind of person would NOT want to save others from hell if that is where he truely believed they were headed? I've never objected to prosthelytizers as long as they showed some common sense regarding time and place, and that describes virtually all of those I've encountered.
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Re: Nova Scotia Student Suspended For Jesus Shirt

Postby Paycheck » 05/ 04/ 12 2:55 pm

smallLliberal wrote:It is offensive. He is telling everybody if you dont believe in his brand of christianity your life is wasted. That is offensive especially to others who are not even christian. What does that say to a jewish kid or a hindu kid.


What "brand of Christianity"? The T-Shirt just says Jesus. And you know, you liberals really do need to grow up and understand that it really is OK to have a strong disagreement with someone and let them enjoy their rights to participate in a secular school system. We all know, after all, what you would say if the Rainbow religion was not tolerated on a T-shirt.

They are very strict about clothing at my kids public school about clothing. My kid knows right away what is allowed and what is not allowed. This is nothing new.


It's a PUBLIC SCHOOL. The kid's parents pay for his right to be there and express his views. This is a joke. He is merely affirming his belief in Christ and the consequences of not living a life for Jesus. Good for him. If you disagree, promote your own beliefs.

Plus, I read this morning he spends half his day running around trying to convert kids to being born again.


So what? Is this a crime? Poor dears can't debate or handle the truth? What a bunch of wimps and drones we are creating for our society. It's not like students today have too much intellectual and transcendal questions that they are confronted with. Group think. That's what we are creating for our society.
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Re: Nova Scotia Student Suspended For Jesus Shirt

Postby Julian » 05/ 04/ 12 3:07 pm

Meanwhile back at moonbat central anything islam is sacred. It isn't offensive for the Toronto Tansit Commission to put up these signs:

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Re: Nova Scotia Student Suspended For Jesus Shirt

Postby styky » 05/ 04/ 12 3:54 pm

When Adlers achieve catches up you really have to hear the interview he did with someone speaking for the school board.

http://charlesadler.com/ It would be first hour May 4th (no it's not there yet but will be I'm sure)
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Re: Nova Scotia Student Suspended For Jesus Shirt

Postby styky » 05/ 04/ 12 3:58 pm

Baillie, atheists defend student's right to wear Jesus T-shirt
May 4, 2012 - 3:27pm By SELENA ROSS

The South Shore 19-year-old who divided Nova Scotians this week over a Christian T-shirt slogan is gaining some unlikely supporters.

A national atheists' organization announced today that it stands with William Swinimer, a student from Chester Basin, as he fights suspension from high school for wearing a T-shirt that read “Life is Wasted Without Jesus.”

The school board said the slogan crossed the line by telling non-Christians their beliefs are invalid. A facilitator is now helping to solve the dispute.

Removing Swinimer and his shirt from school is a violation of his right to free speech, said the Centre for Inquiry, a national organization made up mostly of atheists and agnostics.

"This shirt causes no harm and is a perfectly acceptable contribution to the marketplace of ideas," said group spokesman Justin Trottier.

The group opposes religious indoctrination led by teachers, boards or other taxpayer-funded authorities. But that's a very different thing from students' self-expression, said Trottier. And such a defence coming from a secular group is perfectly fitting, he said.

"We have consistently defended free speech rights for groups regardless of our agreement on message, including Muslim and Christian ads in public space and censored pro-life debates on campus," said Trottier.

Progressive Conservative leader Jamie Baillie also weighed in on Friday, saying that the board had "trampled" on important rights.

“The minister of education should note that this student is a Canadian with certain fundamental freedoms under our Charter of Rights and Freedoms,” he said.

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