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Could partners of gay knights and dames be given titles?

Postby Ogopogo » 07/ 02/ 12 7:59 pm

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Could partners of gay knights and dames be given honorary titles?

Parliament will debate equality in the honours system for gay couples on Tuesday

By Rob Cooper

PUBLISHED: 08:58 EST, 1 July 2012 | UPDATED: 10:45 EST, 1 July 2012

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The partners of gay knights and dames could be given the right to use an honorary title under reforms to be considered by Parliament.

Under the current honours system, wives of men made Sirs or Lords becomes ladies.

But there is no equivalent for boyfriends of gay men given titles, like Sir Elton John's partner David Furnish. Neither can husbands of women made dames use a prefix.
Gay rights: Sir Elton John's civil partner David Furnish, left, could be given the right to use an honorary title under a reform to be debated by Parliament

Gay rights: Sir Elton John's civil partner David Furnish, left, could be given the right to use an honorary title under a reform to be debated by Parliament

The actor Sir Ian McKellen, who is openly gay, will also be affected by the proposed reforms.

Tory MP Oliver Colville will this week unveil a Bill under the 10 minute rule aimed at bringing equality to the system, amid reports the Government is preparing to investigate reform.

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His Honours (Equality of Titles for Partners) Bill will be launched in the Commons on Tuesday.
Honoured: Sir Ian McKellen could also be affected by the proposed law reform

Honoured: Sir Ian McKellen could also be affected by the proposed law reform

Parliament is likely to consider the changes to the honours system more fully when they debate gay marriage.

The Liberal Democrats strongly support plans to allow gay couples to be married in civil ceremonies.

However, people within the Church of England and some Tory MPs are likely to vote against reform.

Mr Colville will ask 'that leave be given to bring in a Bill to make provision for husbands and civil partners of those receiving honours to be allowed to use equivalent honorary titles to those available to women'.

He told The Sunday Times: 'The current system is uneven and rather outdated.

'If you are made a peer or a knight, your wife automatically gets the title lady, but if you are gay or are a woman and become a dame your partner gets nothing.'

Other high-profile people who could be affected include Mark Bolland, Prince Charles former deputy private secretary, who is in a civil partnership with Tory peer Lord Black of Brentford.

Lord Smith of Finsbury, who was one of the first openly gay MPs, will also be affected by the reforms. The former Labour minister is in a civil partnership with Dorian Jabri.

Former Labour minister Angela Eagle, who is in a civil partnership, said that it is time the law was changed.

'I'm not a great fan of the honours system but, if you are going to have one, it ought to confer equal honours on everyone who is awarded one,' she told the paper.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z1zVr44HUn
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Re: Could partners of gay knights and dames be given titles?

Postby Ogopogo » 01/ 22/ 13 8:56 pm

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Britain edges toward a law that would allow for a gay king or queen
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"Parliament is due to pass legislation shortly to allow for the first child of Prince William, the Duke of Cambridge and Catherine, the Duchess of Cambridge to rule as monarch regardless of whether they are a boy or a girl. Now Labour MP Paul Flynn is gathering support for an amendment that will extend the protection to include the eventuality that the child is gay or lesbian."

Pink News reporting of a proposed change to British law that could open the door for a gay or lesbian heir to become king or queen, and their same-sex partner to be recognized as a spouse. According to the report, "any children born to the couple through artificial insemination or surrogacy would succeed to the throne so long as the couple are in a same-sex marriage or civil partnership. Current inheritance laws mean that if the couple had a child through adoption, they would not join the line of succession for the throne."
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Re: Could partners of gay knights and dames be given titles?

Postby Dogpatch » 01/ 22/ 13 9:08 pm

Ogopogo wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2167213/Gay-rights-Could-Partners-gay-knights-dames-given-honorary-title-way-ladies.html

Could partners of gay knights and dames be given honorary titles?

Parliament will debate equality in the honours system for gay couples on Tuesday

By Rob Cooper

PUBLISHED: 08:58 EST, 1 July 2012 | UPDATED: 10:45 EST, 1 July 2012

Comments (162)
Share


The partners of gay knights and dames could be given the right to use an honorary title under reforms to be considered by Parliament.

Under the current honours system, wives of men made Sirs or Lords becomes ladies.

But there is no equivalent for boyfriends of gay men given titles, like Sir Elton John's partner David Furnish. Neither can husbands of women made dames use a prefix.
Gay rights: Sir Elton John's civil partner David Furnish, left, could be given the right to use an honorary title under a reform to be debated by Parliament

Gay rights: Sir Elton John's civil partner David Furnish, left, could be given the right to use an honorary title under a reform to be debated by Parliament

The actor Sir Ian McKellen, who is openly gay, will also be affected by the proposed reforms.

Tory MP Oliver Colville will this week unveil a Bill under the 10 minute rule aimed at bringing equality to the system, amid reports the Government is preparing to investigate reform.

More...

Historic vote on women bishops put in jeopardy as senior female clergy say concessions would make them second-class citizens

His Honours (Equality of Titles for Partners) Bill will be launched in the Commons on Tuesday.
Honoured: Sir Ian McKellen could also be affected by the proposed law reform

Honoured: Sir Ian McKellen could also be affected by the proposed law reform

Parliament is likely to consider the changes to the honours system more fully when they debate gay marriage.

The Liberal Democrats strongly support plans to allow gay couples to be married in civil ceremonies.

However, people within the Church of England and some Tory MPs are likely to vote against reform.

Mr Colville will ask 'that leave be given to bring in a Bill to make provision for husbands and civil partners of those receiving honours to be allowed to use equivalent honorary titles to those available to women'.

He told The Sunday Times: 'The current system is uneven and rather outdated.

'If you are made a peer or a knight, your wife automatically gets the title lady, but if you are gay or are a woman and become a dame your partner gets nothing.'

Other high-profile people who could be affected include Mark Bolland, Prince Charles former deputy private secretary, who is in a civil partnership with Tory peer Lord Black of Brentford.

Lord Smith of Finsbury, who was one of the first openly gay MPs, will also be affected by the reforms. The former Labour minister is in a civil partnership with Dorian Jabri.

Former Labour minister Angela Eagle, who is in a civil partnership, said that it is time the law was changed.

'I'm not a great fan of the honours system but, if you are going to have one, it ought to confer equal honours on everyone who is awarded one,' she told the paper.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z1zVr44HUn


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