BREAKING - CHRC responds to motion on secret hearing!

[Connie Fournier]

Very well-written, Edward.

[WestViking]

S. Margot Blight, on behalf of the CHRC, is proposing to limit the charter rights of all citizens to the freedoms of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication; the freedom of peaceful assembly; and the freedom of association. Moreover, she proposes to deprive us of the right to life, liberty and security of the person and the right not to be deprived thereof except in accordance with the principles of fundamental justice.

Finally, S. Margot Blight wants the Tribunal to ignore Charter s 15 by granting CHRC investigators special privileges while denying ordinary equality rights to members of the public:

15. (1) Every individual is equal before and under the law and has the right to the equal protection and equal benefit of the law without discrimination and, in particular, without discrimination based on race, national or ethnic origin, colour, religion, sex, age or mental or physical disability.

CHRC Investigators have limited powers as set out in the CHRA s 43:

43. (1) The Commission may designate a person, in this Part referred to as an "investigator", to investigate a complaint.
(2) An investigator shall investigate a complaint in a manner authorized by regulations made pursuant to subsection (4).
(2.1) Subject to such limitations as the Governor in Council may prescribe in the interests of national defence or security, an investigator with a warrant issued under subsection (2.2) may, at any reasonable time, enter and search any premises in order to carry out such inquiries as are reasonably necessary for the investigation of a complaint.
(2.2) Where on ex parte application a judge of the Federal Court is satisfied by information on oath that there are reasonable grounds to believe that there is in any premises any evidence relevant to the investigation of a complaint, the judge may issue a warrant under the judge’s hand authorizing the investigator named therein to enter and search those premises for any such evidence subject to such conditions as may be specified in the warrant.
(2.3) In executing a warrant issued under subsection (2.2), the investigator named therein shall not use force unless the investigator is accompanied by a peace officer and the use of force has been specifically authorized in the warrant.
(2.4) An investigator may require any individual found in any premises entered pursuant to this section to produce for inspection or for the purpose of obtaining copies thereof or extracts therefrom any books or other documents containing any matter relevant to the investigation being conducted by the investigator.
(3) No person shall obstruct an investigator in the investigation of a complaint.
(4) The Governor in Council may make regulations
(a) prescribing procedures to be followed by investigators;
(b) authorizing the manner in which complaints are to be investigated pursuant to this Part; and
(c) prescribing limitations for the purpose of subsection (2.1).
R.S., 1985, c. H-6, s. 43; R.S., 1985, c. 31 (1st Supp.), s. 63.

There are no regulations respecting investigators. CHRC investigators are simply commission employees with no policing powers, no authority to charge anyone with any offence and no authority to engage in covert operations. Section 43(3) makes it an offence to obstruct an investigator so the whole argument that revealing the identities of investigators can compromise their carrying out of their legal duties is preposterous.

[Wlyonmackenzie]

I am torn when I consider such individuals as steacy, between feeling sorry for them or for hating them. Consideration of them generally results in me feeling disgust, disrespect, and contempt towards anyone who would sell their soul to a "muscovite" mentality, betraying good people whose only crimes are to have an opinion au contraire to the present day "New Talibanic" freedomphobes, and tyrants that go by the name of Human Rights Commissions.

One wonders how such people can look in a mirror without puking, considering their work description.

The "Devil" is never the devil in his own mind's eye Edward.

Much of the time these people feel they are doing the right thing and become so narrowly focused and zealous in their orthodoxy and its justifications, that they fail to see the damage they are doing.

There's little doubt that the things you have posted have scared FD's timorous lurker Mr. Steacy....as a matter of fact, I think Mr. Steacy is a man who spends a good deal of his time being "scared" at one thing or another...but regardless, Edward I think that you are a principled enough person that you may denounce such quisling cravenness without actually harming such a pathetic creature.

I believe that you acted also in good intentions with your criticism of Steacy's unseemly actions Edward. I assume you meant neither harm nor malice to the CHRC "spy" in question. I prefer to believe your sole intention was to restore in him some sense of appreciation for his duties as a principled man an ethical citizen and a free Canadian. "If one could shame a coward," you felt, "one might help him to gain his self-respect." I Presume this was on your mind.

The fact that the recipient of your "tough love" approach seems to have broken down in a pall of paranoid blubbering, none the less diminishes the fact that it was done with all the best intentions...just like Steacy's spying on FD.

[free_life2]

Hope they do close the proceedings to the public.........that should help convince the doubtful of the CHRC's motives better than words ever could.

[Darski]

Hope they do close the proceedings to the public.........that should help convince the doubtful of the CHRC's motives better than words ever could.

personally, I think it would just be the whimper heard round the corner.

I am not quite sure why it is that *we* think Canadians care about any of this. I have not seen anything, to date, that indicates that the great unwashed masses are interested let alone concerned about this.

[dwday]

Take an atheist to lunch on April 1st

Hey, good plan! May I nominate myself? I'll bring my wife along too - we're celebrating our 29th anniversary on April 2nd, but if you're buying, what's a day one way or the other?

[Roy Wilson]

Edward Kennedy: Good post. I have always used my real name, no problem posting my adress and phone numbers. Its time that more people came out of hiding.

"All men are timid on entering any fight. Whether it is the first or the last fight, all of us are timid. Cowards are those who let their timidity get the better of their manhood."- General George Patton Jr,

Accept the challenges so that you can feel the exhilaration of victory.
- General George Patton Jr

[Roy Wilson]

This witness security BS is ridiculous. Is Canada such a pussy of a nation they cant protect witnesses?
32 years ago I testified and was instrumental in convicting a bank robber. He and his buddies were in court and I had to give my name and address, he was sentenced and escaped. Police contacted me and wanted to know if I wanted “some” protection?
Nope, he was running and if he was that stupid let him come. I call you for pick up. They did catch him about a mile from my house. As most criminals he wasn’t that bright.

[virgey]

What I find truly appalling is the fact that this group of misfits are given authority under the guise of being a champion of human rights. In my opinion, the title of "Canadian Human Rights Commission" was concocted by Trudeau and his horde to deceive the public in thinking this travesty of a commission is a good thing when in reality it is the polar opposite of human rights, but rather a mechanism to restructure Canada in Trudeau's image of a political correctness.

[Connie Fournier]

The <a href=http://blog.freedomsite.org/2008/03/barbara-kulaszka-hammers-chrc-request.html>Lemire Team</a> has responded. Check it out!

[Roy Wilson]

The <a href=http://blog.freedomsite.org/2008/03/barbara-kulaszka-hammers-chrc-request.html>Lemire Team</a> has responded. Check it out!

That was interesting.
These bohunks think they can keep it off the internet? What cave do they live in?

[Peter O'Donnell]

I have also offered to enter the legal proceedings against FD and the eight John Does (I am one of them) ... my "real name" is Peter O'Donnell but I am not known by that name in Canada.

As for my supposed slanders about Stalinist thuggery and treasonous acts, my defence is looking more or less automatic after these events.

My statements should be taken more as political analysis than slander, and the sooner the better as far as the government is concerned.

Stephen Harper can no longer hide behind the pretence that these tribunals operate at "arm's length" from his government as his office recently told me in a brush-off letter. As recently as 1999, Stephen Harper was still making statements himself highly critical of these extra-legal courts.

What has changed since the days of opposition and integrity, Prime Minister? Or are you and the Cabinet just getting the same bad advice that the previous governments received when they broke the constitution in pieces and threw out due process with Section 13.

Section 13 is an unconstitutional piece of law that should be voted down in parliament as soon as possible. Bravo Keith Martin for being the one man courageous enough to say so.

[Crash]

You make great points ed, but you might wanna tone down the round-about implication of violence toward our unwanted guest, however unwarranted his stay.

I would really like to know what exactly is on this site that is so worthy of CHRC attention. I think it is extremely wasteful of our government services and tax dollars and offensive.

[Maikeru]

It now has been revealed that Dean Steacy was a member of Stormfront and posted there.  It is already known that Richard Warman, who was the complainant in all of the cases against these persons, was also a member of Stormfront and posted messages which even the Commission itself has acknowledged violated section 13. It is now known that Sgt. Stephen Camp, a police officer, was also a member of Stormfront and posted racist messages.

The more things change, the more they <a href=http://germanhistorydocs.ghi-dc.org/print_document.cfm?document_id=1879>stay the same</a>...

[Maikeru]

I would really like to know what exactly is on this site that is so worthy of CHRC attention.

opinions banned on babble...