Ontario court orders blog-based libel case to trial

[Julian]

"There's no doubt that is it a novel, unique case, both legally and factually, because there isn't a lot of case law anywhere in Canada," MacKinnon said. "To have a decision out there that summarily dismisses the plaintiff's claim . . on the basis of a very thin evidentiary record is not good for the law in general."

This should include......and we're willing to bankrupt the Fourniers in order to make the point.

Anyone will have a hard time convincing me that there isn't a hell of lot about his decision that took place behind the scenes and will not see the light of day. If it doesn't pass the smell test there's a good reason for that.

[Blaze Pascal]

When Stock well Day was accused of slander for a letter to the editor, I'm pretty sure that the newspaper he wrote it to was not also accused. FD let the comment stay, but they didn't make the comment. How can they be accused of slander?

[Blaze Pascal]

Let the fundraising begin -- now I am getting my Social Security, I can contribute and will. This is absolute lunacy; next thing we'll be having a kindergarten child being sued for calling another child a poo poo head.

I'm with Kate on this. Once again, we have the eggheads making more of this than what it really is and the reason this concerns me is that these exercises in overly complicating issues never seem to end well for the side of reason and common sense.

Maybe all that needs to be done is that political forums should have a big disclaimer on their front page that says "Those whose feelings bruise easily, are advised to enter at their own risk".

This could be a defence. Everyone who enters an on-line political forum knows that he will be named something, Nazi, Stalinist, Talibani, and/or etc. To go into a political forum and then pretend to be surprised is the behavior of a pantywaist far-left psychopath, to say the least.

[Maikeru]

Connie's thread starter article here, penned by Michelle McQuigge in the Winnipeg Free Press, reflects a heightened understanding of the chronology of commentaries which led Baglow to sue Smith and FreeDominion for 'cyber-libel', essentially for inferring that Baglow's August 10, 2010 article 'The Gitmo Kanga-ruse (a tonguebath of Omar Khadr), was 'treasonous' commentary.

Smith made the claim on Baglow's own 'Dawg's Blawg' blogsite, where the 'offending' comment remains displayed.

public declarations of support for Al Qaeda and the Taliban amount to treason

Smith then mounted a thread on FreeDominion mocking John Baglow for his 'Dawg's Blawg' 'Off with his head' article, which contained the claim:

King Stephen I enjoys, however, the fervent support of yokels with pitchforks

Baglow likely forgot to remember Daniel Pearl when he chose the Talibanesque title for that commentary.

It's odd that the Appeal court agreed that the John Baglow suit against Roger Smith and FreeDominion deserved Court hearing, citing the need to examine and cross-examine witnesses and 'expert evidence' to help 'chrystallize' law around 'cyber-defamation'.

A little patience on the Court's part would have the benefit of hearing the Richard Warman defamation suit against the Fourniers of FreeDominion and 8 'John Does', which include 'Peter O'Donnell', aka Mr. Roger Smith.

Both Richard Warman and John Baglow share close connection with the'Anti-Racist Canada' blogsite, alongside Warren Kinsella, who has also sued FreeDominion for defamation, and BigCityLib aka Michael J. Murphy.


The original 'Gang of Four' - also in court...

Disclaimer: My own experience in exchanging online views with Mr. Baglow - at Jay Currie's former blogsite - included him claiming I was a 'Nazi', so I have good reason to hold a diminished regard for his online opinions.

[BlawBlaw]

This is a discussion that needs to be had, but it is most unfortunate that it will cost $1000 an hour to have it.

I will be back in TO at the end of July. I gave up on the lawyer thing a while ago, but if there if there is anything I can do to help at that time, then let me know Connie.

10 months in China gives one a particular appreciation for the merits of free speech, however messy it may get.

[styky]

This is a discussion that needs to be had, but it is most unfortunate that it will cost $1000 an hour to have it.

I will be back in TO at the end of July. I gave up on the lawyer thing a while ago, but if there if there is anything I can do to help at that time, then let me know Connie.

10 months in China gives one a particular appreciation for the merits of free speech, however messy it may get.

BlawBlaw you're a prince among men

[Connie Fournier]

This is a discussion that needs to be had, but it is most unfortunate that it will cost $1000 an hour to have it.

I will be back in TO at the end of July. I gave up on the lawyer thing a while ago, but if there if there is anything I can do to help at that time, then let me know Connie.

10 months in China gives one a particular appreciation for the merits of free speech, however messy it may get.

Let me know when you are going to be in Toronto and we will make a point of meeting up with you. We'd love to meet you, for sure!

[BlawBlaw]

This is a discussion that needs to be had, but it is most unfortunate that it will cost $1000 an hour to have it.

I will be back in TO at the end of July. I gave up on the lawyer thing a while ago, but if there if there is anything I can do to help at that time, then let me know Connie.

10 months in China gives one a particular appreciation for the merits of free speech, however messy it may get.

BlawBlaw you're a prince among men

If I'm so smart, how come I'm not rich?

But more seriously, I think I will be in the Quinte region in August: maybe Mark and Connie can meet me half way from Kingston to talk turkey.

[Connie Fournier]

You betcha!!!

[BlawBlaw]

You betcha!!!

It's a date. . .sort of

[wildernessvoice]

Maikera posts:
"Disclaimer: My own experience in exchanging online views with Mr. Baglow - at Jay Currie's former blogsite - included him claiming I was a 'Nazi', so I have good reason to hold a diminished regard for his online opinions."

Guess you would make a great witness as to Drdawg's practical application of internet chatter.
...Hey! You are an expert witness.

[Maikeru]

"Disclaimer: My own experience in exchanging online views with Mr. Baglow - at Jay Currie's former blogsite - included him claiming I was a 'Nazi', so I have good reason to hold a diminished regard for his online opinions."

Guess you would make a great witness as to Drdawg's practical application of internet chatter.
...Hey! You are an expert witness.

I'm of the expert opinion that the suit brought by John Baglow against FreeDominion, and Peter O'Donnell/Roger Smith, will also bring close scrutiny to 'Anti-Racist Canada', a blogsite created to poison public opinion against FreeDominion hosts and members.

The ultimately objective of that site is to influence ongoing defamation litigation launched by Richard Warman in 2007, against the 'Fourniers of FreeDominion, and 8 'John Does' (including internet rascal Peter O'Donnell).

The Baglow suit is/was entirely unnecessary, but his narcissist nature, which led him to regularly demonize FreeDominion hosts and members, and 'conservatives' generally, with impunity on his own blog and elsewhere online, led him to pull the trigger on a 'defamation' suit which has already made him notorious, rather than notable.

[Maikeru]

Defamation 2.0
An interesting presentation on defamation by Andrew Bernstein, and Iain MacKinnon. who was referenced in Michelle McQuigge's article.

On the internet, nobody knows you're a dawg...

[Peter O'Donnell]

Dawg's actions seem to have already split the left hemisphere of the blogosphere, into factions that are slightly sensible and entirely deluded.

I have to comment before going off into radio silence or exile that anyone who could seriously believe that I am a Nazi or even a racist just because I don't want Canada flooded with Islamists is either stupid or crazy.

That is always the difficult choice with leftists, are they stupid or crazy?

You can never be sure. But whatever, I would challenge anyone to dispute my logic about flooding Canada with Islamists. Even countries founded by them are trying to get rid of them.

Anyway, losers, Islam is not a race and as a religion it is not Judaism. Those are the rather elementary grounds on which I am neither a racist nor a Nazi.

You would think people as simple as our leftist bloggers would just stick to stuff they understood, but perhaps that does not include anything at all, so they have to venture into stuff they don't understand. Like who is in charge of this world, and the next one.