Anti-Racist Canada member joins FreeDominion - Breaking !!

[Red Green]

You know what the difference is between having your rights violated "legally" and having your rights violated "illegally"? Not much if you're the victim of said violence.

Decrying unofficial violence while encouraging official violence is hypocrisy of the highest order.

[Peter O'Donnell]

Agree with EdS about the ignoring of the far left, but we can't ignore the fact that these sentiments have crept into the mainstream and form the foundation of much of "political correctness" including education and much of political discourse -- even the CPC is partly infected by the virus, although one supposes that they go along to get ahead. I suppose the purist in me would prefer a strong, unambiguous opposition to all things p.c., such as climate change, the wonders of multiculturalism, the grooviness of sick public displays of deviant sexuality, etc -- but what we get instead is lukewarm lip service offered up in the spirit of "whatchagonnado?" followed by ambiguous moves in another direction.

This may be good political strategy but if nobody in society stands up and says, "no, no a thousand times no" to all of this p.c. bilge, then we end up with a brainwashed generation that hears no alternative, and unless contacted directly by the Holy Spirit (always a possibility) or through the random sheer luck of reading the right book, talking to the right senior citizen days before he or she croaks, or just the volume of personal doubt that bad policies sometimes generate despite their shiny wrappings -- then that generation goes forward unaware that they have been "turned" and that the world used to be different.

That just about happened to my generation between 1965 and 1975, with very obvious results all around us (since I would estimate 75 to 80 per cent were turned and never changed afterwards). While strictly generational analyses are imprecise (because generations don't separate out quite that precisely) they are undeniably relevant to understanding social trends. It seems to me that people now around 35-45 have the best chance at random of being free of the progressive virus. Younger than 35, we get back into the approximately similar dynamics of my "boomer" cohorts, a very powerful brainwashing by socialist educators that just finished for them (whereas for us, it lies well back under other layers). The events that got some of us freed from the 1970s version of political correctness were largely connected to the anti-communist movement. I suspect that what will free younger folk from their similar thought prisons will be realizations about the reality of the multicultural and multi-religious myths of equality. Possibly they will also start to see through the shiny facade of sexual orientation propaganda too -- that might be tougher because some fiscal conservatives who never met a DINK they didn't want in their store, have decided to join that bandwagon. I suppose as long as you're behind the guy squirting the big gun, that's okay, but bring a raincoat.

[Maikeru]

Agree with EdS about the ignoring of the far left, ...

The far left hasn't ignored Peter O'Donnell - quite the opposite.
Peter O'Donnell is one of the FreeDominion John Does accused of deflaming Pogue Mahone.
Peter O'Donnell is a FreeDominion member accused of deflaming MsMew

The far left wants to exchange Ernst Zundel for Omar Khadyr, and sue Peter O'Donnell for thinking that insane.

[Edward Kennedy]

The day is not far off when the lefturds will regret they did not stop trying to ram their politically correct garbage down the throats of the rest of us.

[Maikeru]

How long has this been going on...?

July 6, 2005
Hacker who hit Free Dominion busted!

August 29, 2005 8:12 PM

The Conservative Movement
Like other large political movements, the conservative movement in Canada has many streams. They are all based on differing political philosophies which causes tension when the groups come face to face in the big-tent Conservative Party of Canada. It also explains why conservatives are on a journey through cycles of cohesion, then bitter rancour and infighting which cripples their party.

Red tories, libertarians, social conservatives, and neoconservatives--people from all of these groups and more have joined the Canadian conservative movement.

Of special interest at this blog is the popular online front for Canadian neoconservatives and curious like-minded Americans, Free Dominion.

This message board claims to be the home of principled conservatism, but does not define what principled conservatism is. Join us at free dominion watch as we discover just what they mean together.
Posted by Anti-Fascist at 8:12 PM

August 29, 2005 8:59 PM

Free Dominion Hacked
In January 2005, the FBI arrested Jeremy Hammond who was responsible for hacking freedominion.ca, among other sites.
The responses on FD reveal a great deal about the mentality that dominates there.
Warning: these posts are repulsive.

Paranoia abounds:

It's hard to believe, but if you have a strong stomach, you can check it out for yourself.
Posted by Anti-Fascist at 8:59 PM

September 09, 2005
Has anyone seen this yet? Free Dominion Watch

[Herbert Krause]

And, so? Are you trying to give them credibility when they are irrelevant? I've seen the phrase Gang-Stalkers, that's their only relevance. That's not much to be proud of. Bullies and Gang-Stalkers. As individuals by themselves without the crutch of their swarming group they amount to less than nothing! They are hollow, empty and without sustenance.

[Connie Fournier]

And, so? Are you trying to give them credibility when they are irrelevant? I've seen the phrase Gang-Stalkers, that's their only relevance. That's not much to be proud of. Bullies and Gang-Stalkers. As individuals by themselves without the crutch of their swarming group they amount to less than nothing! They are hollow, empty and without sustenance.

Maikeru has been updating this thread for several years as a way of documenting their gangstalking. Some day in the not-too-distant future, they will pay a price for their criminal behaviour.

[Herbert Krause]

I have become aware as to Maikeru's role in all of this and what I wrote is not a disparagement to him. No, not at all!

I'm So Sorry if anyone has misunderstood!

His genius exhibited within Free-Dominion can not be undermined, not by my words or anyone elses!

[Connie Fournier]

I have become aware as to Maikeru's role in all of this and what I wrote is not a disparagement to him. No, not at all!

I'm So Sorry if anyone has misunderstood!

His genius exhibited within Free-Dominion can not be undermined, not by my words or anyone elses!

No problem.

[Herbert Krause]

I'm in a bit of a pickle here, I apologize Mr Maikeru, it's just when I read what you wrote it seemed you were giving credence to the other side as if what they stated was of relevance. Leftism is of no relevance to anything that requires common sense thinking. Leftists are all insane in that what they advocate will in the end cut their own throats. Stupid as Stupid can be, that's leftism!

[Maikeru]

I'm in a bit of a pickle here, I apologize Mr Maikeru, it's just when I read what you wrote it seemed you were giving credence to the other side as if what they stated was of relevance.

If your initial reaction to my prior post was that I endorsed the views presented therein, and so presented them herein, it's not difficult to accept that a casual observer to internet 'news aggregators' such as 'Progressive Bloggers' would likely gain a wrong and biased impression of FreeDominion.

This thread is a good example for those seeking to give 'expert opinions' on the future fate of online Discussion forums in Canada.

Leftism is of no relevance to anything that requires common sense thinking. Leftists are all insane in that what they advocate will in the end cut their own throats. Stupid as Stupid can be, that's leftism!

Canada has been a 'leftist' nation for several decades now, which is hardly surprising given that the 20th Century was all about socialism.
Armies conscripted during WW1&2 war were, essentially, competing socialist enterprises.

Absent war, there's no good reason that any citizen should be ordered about by either 'left' or 'right' leaning governments.
Yet Canadian governors passed 'human rights' legislation, both Provincially and Federally, which enabled the filtering and prosecution of non-criminal speech and/or behaviour, by Commissions and Tribunals.

When the CPC passed Bill C304 abolishing CHRAct Sec 13.1, to protect Canadians from legal 'bounty-hunting', they returned to Canadians a liberty most folks were unaware had been taken from them - or if aware, cautious to avoid becoming a 'human rights' respondent/victim.

[Peter O'Donnell]

I noticed a comment about what I might think about Ernst Zundel and Omar Khadr -- please note that my official position is an equal dislike of these two gentlemen, not a preference for one over the other. I hope this clears up any doubts about my beliefs. The Bible speaks of "beast, dragon and false prophet" and with Zundel and Khadr, you have two bases covered; add in certain legal antagonists, you have the full set. I would like to dump them all in a bottomless pit and let them decide who is which. In fact I believe that is the long term plan, from what little I know of such things.

[Herbert Krause]

I checked out the link Maikeru and wasn't surprised by what was there considering the keyword, progressive. A rat pack of condescending know it all pissants who know nothing all patting themselves on the back in support of each other's phony leftist elitist drivel and spittle.

[Peter O'Donnell]

I think there's a shorter summary of the above, namely, educators.

[Maikeru]

7 August, 2012 - 10:44 PM
Wade Michael Page: Deranged Loner or Part of a Bigger Problem?
Our friends at OPP have been at work and have proven that Wade Michael Page wasn't only a neo-Nazi band member, but a full-on member of one of the United States' most infamous and violent hate groups:

When it was learned that Wade Michael Page was the shooter at a Sikh Temple in Wisconsin, just as quickly news came out that he was in a number of WP bands. But more information has come out that says the original belief that he was not part of any actual hate group is very, very wrong.
One People's Project
OAK CREEK, WI--The shooter in the shooting at a Sikh Temple in suburban Milwaukee that killed six people before police gunned him down has been identified as Wade Michael Page, a member of the Hammerskin Nation HSN, the oldest and most violent neo-Nazi bonehead organization in the United States.

According to the Anti-Defamation League website, Hammerskin Nation was formed in Dallas, Texas in the late 80s, adopting the crossed hammers - the symbol used by the fascists in Pink Floyd's the Wall - as their organization's logo. At its peak. HSN was able to boast dozens of chapters across the United States and worldwide. They are best known for holding concerts around the country known as Hammerfest, but also for the murders and other violent acts that have been committed by HSN members over the past 20 years. As of late the organization has lost the strength it once had, and other organizations like Volksfront and the Vinlander Social Club - an organization founded from the remnants of the Outlaw Hammerskins, which were former Hammerskin members that were ousted - came into being.

Pictures of Page with members of HSN as well as some from another organization, the Atlantic City "Skinheads" have surfaced with Page sporting HSN or "Crew 38" patches and insignia, Crew 38 is the support group for the Confederate Hammerskins (CHS), the most active chapter in HSN today.
[3 pics]
Top: Wade Page, far right, with glasses, hangs with some of his fellow Hammerskins. Robert Reznick of Allentown, PA is in the bottom left row with the Lonsdale shirt on. "Brent" (Rackley?) from Definite Hate/End Apathy is second from right in the top row. Center: Wade Page, far right, sporting Hammerskin patches (you don't wear those patches unless you are a member) joins Hammerskins on stage. Reznick is on far left and "Brent" is next to him. Bottom: Wade Page, far left again with Hammerskins. That's Reznick and "Brett" again next to him.
There is more information on the OPP website here.

The Hammerfront link is interesting, in that we in Canada have also witness violence, though not of this nature, allegedly perpetrated by people aligned with the Hammerskins in Vancouver:

* "Why deny the Holocaust? I for one welcome it!": Rob de Chazal on Stormfront
* Update on Macdonald and BC Blood & Honour: Posts on Hammerskin Forum
* Christie and Macdonald Confronted During Court Appearance
* Alleged Racial Assault Caught on Video; Macdonald Suspect
* Court Dates For Blood & Honour Members Postponed
* Hey! We Forgot We Had Video of Blood & Honour BC
* McKee Uses Blood & Honour Arrests to Promote Violence
* So, Who in B&H Have Been Arrested?

And so on.

Meanwhile, former Heritage Front Kingston representative Louis Morin has commented on the case:

The most salient points are this:

...and this:
Yep. His criticism, and the criticism of some of the others who commented, is that there were better targets.

As a bit of an editorial, what gets us is that from the perspective of many on the right, if it is a black or brown person who commits a crime, it's because of something inherently deficient in their culture and/or genes. When it's a white person, it is the act of a single, deranged, lunatic and does not reflect on the wider society of white people. And this is how Wade Michael Page, who was a part of a notorious violent subculture, has been described. A Muslim blows up a building? It's because Muslims, on the whole, are violent. A white supremacist blows up a building (such as this guy or this guy)? He was just a lone crazy person... and could we really be sure that it wasn't ACTUALLY a Muslim who did it, even though the white dude admits he did it and brags about it?

(*1) We can see this clearly in the reaction to the Anders Breivik murders.

Before it was known who committed the initial bombing in Oslo followed by the murders of over 70 youth, the assumption was it was an Islamic extremist and was used as further proof that Muslims, all Muslims, were dangerous. As more information came to light, the reaction of those who initially blamed Muslims for the attach changed. Whereas they were happy to hang this crime on Muslims as a group, upon learning the truth Breivik became a lone, deranged, individual. In the same thread in which we included the screen shots about Breivik is similar rhetoric about J.T. Ready.

The great irony is that while (*2) some of the folks on Free Dominion stoke hatred and fear of Muslims in this country while at the same time dismissing white supremacist groups as irrelevant and harmless, it is likely that more people in this country have been killed by the supremacists than have been harmed by any Muslim extremists.

At least one poster on Free Dominion has noticed that there is a difference in the response to black and brown people as compared to the equally heinous crimes committed by white people (though we aren't sure that we would draw the same conclusions):

How about this?

There are good people and bad people and the color of a person's skin or the deity they worship (or don't worship) is of no relevance. The people and those behind them who murdered 3000 people on September 11, 2001 are not reflective of Muslims or Arabs as a group. The actions of Wade Michael Page, J.T. Ready, Timothy McVeigh, and all the white supremacists who have murdered or harmed people are not reflective of all white people.

Connie agrees with us too. Well, sort of.

It's good to find some common ground here, though we might also suggest that if she is looks at the membership of her own webforum, she wouldn't have to look to far to feel nauseous.
Posted by Nosferatu200 at 10:44 PM
Labels: Alastair Miller, Free Dominion, Hammerskins, Heritage Front, Morin, Robertson de Chazal, Shawn Macdonald

*1 link directs readers to the 'Anti-Racist Canada' article titled 'Free Dominion Reaction to JT Ready Murder-Suicide' - posted 4 May 2012
*2 link directs readers to the 'Anti-Racist Canada' article titled 'Rationalizing Violence; Mainstreaming Hatred' posted 21 August, 2011