Vote conservative, not Tory!

[Felix Culpa]

<center>Vote conservative, not Tory!</center>

Today John Tory announced that he wants to fund all religious schools, but that he wants to "unite them" with the public schools, and require that they teach the same secular cirriculum.

Well, that did it for me.

I think we should definitely vote for Ontario PC candidates who are true conservatives, but I believe we have a moral obligation not to vote for pseudo-conservatives who are running under the PC banner, because all we will be doing is putting someone in a position of power who is, from all appearances, more dangerous to feedom and liberty than Dalton McGuinty.

So, this thread is for people to discuss the candidates and let FDers know who is running for the PC Party who <i>really</i> represents our values.

If the person in your riding is not a principled conservative, I hope you will consider voting the FCP, the Freedom Party, or another alternative. We have to send these guys a message!

Well said. Although I think the FCP should be the first choice of all conservatives.

[Connie Fournier]

I don't think the FCP is running candidates in every riding, are they? I haven't heard of a candidate here.

[Ipberg2]

There should be no public funding for religious schools.

[Connie Fournier]

There should be no public funding for religious schools.

I agree. Unless it is a voucher system.

[CrunchyCon]

I don't think the FCP is running candidates in every riding, are they? I haven't heard of a candidate here.

Why don't you or Mark run?

You don't have to campaign full-time. But at least give conservatives a real option.

[free_life2]

There should be no public funding for religious schools.

I agree. Unless it is a voucher system.

What and give parents the right to decide? /sarcasm off

[Connie Fournier]

Yes, you're right, free_life2. We all know that most parents secretly want to abuse their children and the only thing that stops them is the state. How silly to suggest that they have the right to control their childrens' education!

[Ipberg2]

There should be no public funding for religious schools.

I agree. Unless it is a voucher system.

What and give parents the right to decide? /sarcasm off

I don't support a voucher system partly because it would lead to public funding of religious schools. Catholics should fund Catholic schools. Muslims should fund Muslim schools. If the Muslim schools are breeding hate then there's no scandal about shutting them down if they haven't received a penny in public funding.

[carfix2000ca]

We have no CHP candidate in Lambton-Kent-Middlesex

PC candidate Monte McNaughton is our only choice. He does not believe in gay marriage or abortion.

Church going guy who was a page while the Harris government was in.

I've known him since he was messing up diapers.

He is a Harris conservative, who still believes that Mike Harris was the closest thing to a conservative we have ever had in Ontario.

He would like Harris to run federally. However, as a PC candidate, he has to support Tory. I asked him the other day if he is the kind of guy who would get kicked out of caucus on principle. He said absolutely, and believes that we need more independent politicians.


http://monte2007.com

[Connie Fournier]

I don't like doing things half way, CrunchyCon. Since the run-up to the election is in the first weeks of school, it would be impossible to give it the effort it deserves.

[CrunchyCon]

I don't support a voucher system partly because it would lead to public funding of religious schools.

It's the public's funds to begin with, not the government's. If the separation between Church and State is that strict, the government shouldn't collect taxes from people of faith.

[CrunchyCon]

I don't like doing things half way, CrunchyCon. Since the run-up to the election is in the first weeks of school, it would be impossible to give it the effort it deserves.

I understand. But at least you would give people a candidate they could vote for in good conscience, even if you cannot do the race justice.

[Connie Fournier]

We should start a new thread about the funding of religious schools because I think it is a worthy topic that I would like to discuss in more depth, but I would like to keep this thread for discussion of candidates. If we get too much going on here it will be hard for people to find the information they need.

[free_life2]

There should be no public funding for religious schools.

I agree. Unless it is a voucher system.

What and give parents the right to decide? /sarcasm off

I don't support a voucher system partly because it would lead to public funding of religious schools. Catholics should fund Catholic schools. Muslims should fund Muslim schools. If the Muslim schools are breeding hate then there's no scandal about shutting them down if they haven't received a penny in public funding.

Lets close all the religious centres too. After all them muslims may breed hate in their mosques so lets close all the churches and synagogues, etc.

To me you sound like a bigot. Seriously, if parents want their children taught in a religious school, why should you have a problem with that? They are not your children! As for the muslims teaching hate, if muslims are teaching violence it can be dealt with but I don't want you or any one else deciding what hate is.

As we are today public funding [my tax dollars] pays for the secular atheist religion to be taught. But I guess you are ok with that religion.

[EdS]

Connie, what specifically is your dislike of Tory's policies over religious funding?

In my own view, either the government subsidizes <b>every</b> school, or only the public, non-religious ones. I like a voucher system.

Are you concerned about the alleged "secular" curriculum? (I too am sick and tired of socialist indoctrination in public schools.)

And on the subject of John Tory, I saw him last night at a nomination rally for Richard Raymond, the PC's candidate in my riding. He's going against, guess who? (I'll give you a clue -- he's one of a spawn of them, there are many in governments, at the municipal, provincial and federal levels, and they're all damn lawyers. And, there's already one of each ensconced in government at both the provincial and federal levels.)