Subliminal image in attack ad !!!!!!!!!

[seniora]

I really believe we should not let this thing die. We should continue to give it a high profile by complaining and using placards reading eg:

LIBERALS ARE SHOOTING AT ME !!!

DESPERATE LIBERALS SHOOT AT WOMEN!!!

WOMEN ANGRY WITH LIBERALS FOR SHOOTING AT THEM !!!

[Strangis]

Why isn't it all over the news?

Because it's not a subliminal message.

[Frankie]

Because it's not a subliminal message.

Then you don't have a problem with pulling the flash portion out then?

[braveheart]

Why isn't it all over the news?

Because it's not a subliminal message.

Another liberal Lie.

[Strangis]

Because it's not a subliminal message.

Then you don't have a problem with pulling the flash portion out then?

I don't really care either way. Pulling out a flash cut isn't going to make any difference to the impact of the message, whether one agrees with that message or not.

[JBG]

I don't really care either way. Pulling out a flash cut isn't going to make any difference to the impact of the message, whether one agrees with that message or not.

The "subliminal" portion leaves one with a sickening feeling that they can't quite understand. That's supposed to be associated with Stephen Harper. Thus, it is extremely important.

[Frankie]

The "subliminal" portion leaves one with a sickening feeling that they can't quite understand. That's supposed to be associated with Stephen Harper. Thus, it is extremely important.

Your masters have robbed Canadians and lied over 10 years. Your party stole from us when they said we needed to save the country and you stoop to subliminal hat tricks when you get cornered like the bunch of dogs you are. I hope your party is wiped off the political map. Your party is finished.

[Strangis]

Why isn't it all over the news?

Because it's not a subliminal message.

Another liberal Lie.

Why isn't it all over the news?

Because it's not a subliminal message.

Another liberal Lie.

First, I'm not a liberal. Second, it's not a lie.

Subliminal messages are HIDDEN messages that have no corelation to the clearly visible message. For example, the hidden naked women in ice cubes, or flashing the word "Drink Coke" for a split second in the middle of a movie.

What's happening at the point the gun fires is called a "flash cut" by editors. By putting it at the end of the gun sequence, it also gives the impression that the gun was fired. Although you may be right that you don't the the implication of a gun being fired at the viewer in this ad, that doesn't make it a subliminal message.

Try recording muzzle flash on video or film. It lasts for 1 frame when recorded at normal speed. If, when the flash appears, there were subtle words that said "Harper eats puppies" or something else, then THAT would be subliminal.

Don't go calling me a liar. Or I'll have to call you an ignorant fool who's thrown away rational thought in favour or political favouritism.

If you don't like my definition of what constitutes a subliminal message, try googling it.

Good day.

[ICONOCLAST]

The Liberal attack ad ends with the statement::

<center>"This message brought to you by the Liberal Party of Canada."</center>

The subconcious effect is that the Liberals are associated with the visual images since the last thing the viewer hears is the reference to the Liberal party. That is what sticks in the mind.

The initial references to Harper are long forgotten in the subconsious mind and the Liberals taint themselves with these disturbing images. Let them run the ad to their jeopardy.

Telling people that the Liberals want to shoot you is a wonderful Freudian association that the subconcious levels of the mind will recognize and accept. Good work Herle ..... the Conservatives best friend .....

[Strangis]

I don't really care either way. Pulling out a flash cut isn't going to make any difference to the impact of the message, whether one agrees with that message or not.

The "subliminal" portion leaves one with a sickening feeling that they can't quite understand. That's supposed to be associated with Stephen Harper. Thus, it is extremely important.

This is the core why the ad ISN'T subliminal...

The whole ad is a negative attack on Harper, and how, in the Liberal view, he's going to destroy Canada. There's no hidden message from the gun flash that either contradicts that message, or enhances it with deceptive imagry or words.

It may sicken you, you may not like it, but it isn't subliminal. That's my whole point.

[Frankie]

So Strangest has no problem with Dirty sleazy attack ads.
We wouldn't stoop to slurs like this so don't expect a gutter spot about Martin. If you can't remember who has screwed over the public for over 11 years how could you realize who should be the one to be attacked.
Take your bogeyman theory about Harper and huddle up in your bed because the conservative party will be in power soon.

[Grig]

Subliminal messages are HIDDEN messages

Find one media report printed before I pointed this out that states the gun is fired. You won't find one, NOT ONE. In every case it only says the gun is pointed at the viewer. Go ahead. Prove me wrong, it it wasn't subliminal, everyone would have noticed right off the bat.

What's happening at the point the gun fires is called a "flash cut" by editors. By putting it at the end of the gun sequence, it also gives the impression that the gun was fired.

The president of the ad firm who produced the ad CONFIRMED that it is a muzzle flare and said the video is stock footage of a GUN BEING FIRED. No flash cuts are used anywhere in the ad.

Try recording muzzle flash on video or film. It lasts for 1 frame when recorded at normal speed.

Not so, when you watch some movie where guns are fired muzzle flashes are consiously noticiable and longer than one frame. The fact that they only show one frame of it, and don't follow it by a frame of the gun is a clear indication of deliberate subliminal intent.'

If, when the flash appears, there were subtle words that said "Harper eats puppies" or something else, then THAT would be subliminal.

That would be a subliminal MESSAGE, we are talking about a subliminal IMAGE. A picture has far more power to effect a person's emotional state than any text.

[Psycho]

The whole ad is a negative attack on Harper, and how, in the Liberal view, he's going to destroy Canada. There's no hidden message from the gun flash that either contradicts that message, or enhances it with deceptive imagry or words.

It may sicken you, you may not like it, but it isn't subliminal. That's my whole point.

I agree and disagree,...

I agree that the purpose of the ad is obvious - it is a pure "attack ad". It is a lie that the conservatives have ever said they will buy aircraft carriers; it is misrepresentation that a pistol has anything to do with the gun registry (pistols always had to be registered),...

The flash of the gun being fired is subliminal because NOBODY saw it being fired. For weeks, nobody noticed the gun being fired - I thought it was a glitch of the skyline as the scene changed from the gun to the smoke stacks.

The fact that "this glitch" was a bullet being fired at the viewer on an ad attacking the conservatives, and the fact that the Liberal campaign hid this fact, and the fact that not one viewer could see the gun being fired - that's my definition of subliminal,...

[Strangis]

So Strangest has no problem with Dirty sleazy attack ads.
We wouldn't stoop to slurs like this so don't expect a gutter spot about Martin. If you can't remember who has screwed over the public for over 11 years how could you realize who should be the one to be attacked.
Take your bogeyman theory about Harper and huddle up in your bed because the conservative party will be in power soon.

What "bogeyman" theory is that? I didn't offer one. I never said that I agreed with the spot either, just that it wasn't a SUBLIMINAL message.

[John Y Cannuck]

Somebody get it to Harper, he may be able to use it TONIGHT!